No. Absolutely not. Keep this for the traditional weekends. only. Period.
The majority of the workforce works the 9-ish to 5-ish weekdays with open weekends. Same goes for those in school from children to college/university. This is a game and I do not care in any way at all about OP working in healthcare wheeling patients from recovery to the exit door. I don't care in any way at all about anybody who has a profession that has different work hours. Tongue-in-cheek or serious as can be, any reason these folks give is nonsense of the highest order. Those are work hours and they take precedence over anything game-related.
I don't have time midweek since I work and have responsibilities when I come home and often have some sort of real-life event on many weekends. I don't clamor for things to change to suit me. There is a calendar available and forums for me to find out information on what is currently going on. If it happens to be a 2x weekend or a CTA and I missed the start of it...oh well, I'll get on it when I can and want since I usually have almost 5 days to do so before it ends. If I want to hop on Thursday night and play, I will and I will not complain that I am not getting something special because this is the only time I'm able to play at this moment.
This is a fun hobby. If I really want to devote time to this fun hobby, I will MAKE time for it. If I want to use it as a diversion I will use some actual downtime to play it. I do not think that a hobby (especially Neverwinter) should correct itself and make time for me in the ways many of the people in this thread are saying.
I can't think of many things in life that would cater to people's times. Today, I wanted pizza at 8am for some reason. Just had a taste for it. Guess what...pizza place doesn't open until 11am. Can't go at 11 because it's too far from work to be a feasible lunch decision so I'll go on my way home at 4pm. Guess what...pizza was $1 before 4pm. Now it's $3 from 4pm to 12am. Oh, and Tuesday it's buy 1 slice get 1 free. But it's Wednesday.
So tell me...should I tell the owner of this place that I should get $1 slices with getting one for free because I couldn't make it during the correct time? Should I tell him that it's unfair to me because of my work hours? Do I tell him that if I followed the posted schedule that I would be too tired to effectively do my job (as OP did)? Or do I suck it up and go when I can or make time to go when I really want to go?
AKA..Do I play the game when I can or do I tell the people that they should change the game or do something special for me because I have a different time schedule than nearly everyone else and don't want to find something that suits me?
No. Absolutely not. Keep this for the traditional weekends. only. Period.
The majority of the workforce works the 9-ish to 5-ish weekdays with open weekends. Same goes for those in school from children to college/university. This is a game and I do not care in any way at all about OP working in healthcare wheeling patients from recovery to the exit door. I don't care in any way at all about anybody who has a profession that has different work hours. Tongue-in-cheek or serious as can be, any reason these folks give is nonsense of the highest order. Those are work hours and they take precedence over anything game-related.
and how would making events all week long instead of 5day to 1day(or whatever timezone you are in) **** u up ?
and how would making events all week long instead of 5day to 1day(or whatever timezone you are in) **** u up ?
I don't know how it would "****" me up. Doubt it would. I have no issue with extending or shortening current events or how the current system of events time out. I don't see it necessary to be changed as it is.
You want an extra 3 days for 2xp RP...fine with me. Just come out and say that. Propose your ideas more coherently than OP did. But if you want to be treated as a special player because your work schedule doesn't match up with how you want to game in Neverwinter...well sort your priorities out and figure out if you want to game 24/7 or want to pay the bills and game a little less.
CTA already runs a week long, now you want 2x weekends to run 7 days instead of 4? I'm guessing here, but I'm strongly inclined to believe that these 2x weekends are occurring on the weekend (actually mid Friday to mid Monday (plenty of time IMO)) because that is when the majority of people are spending more than invoking time in the game.
[...] But if you want to be treated as a special player because your work schedule doesn't match up with how you want to game in Neverwinter...well sort your priorities out and figure out if you want to game 24/7 or want to pay the bills and game a little less.
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a) It's often enough "lose your job" - might be a difficult concept above a certain arrogance level (not addressing the quoted poster personally but several in this thread)...
b) There was no "treated as a special player" expressed by the OP - just the suggestion to make events like 2x RP token-triggered for a certain time, within a certain time window. What's the special treatment here? Because: If this were done, everybody would be at liberty to start whenever it suits best within that time window...
c) he backed this suggestion with personal problem story - to construct the "special treatment"-wish from can be constructed as malignant and can also be constructed as offensive.
d) The "majority of the workforce" (again not the quoted poster) does not work 9-5. Factory workers most often work 2-3 shift models, as do healthcare and all those listed above. All long distance haulage business (except for maybe the very high echelons and their staff) works 24/6 or 24/7. Retail chain employees work well outside that window - here in Germany this is already like 50% of the workforce.
Mo-Fr, 9-5 is clerk worktime. And even of these quite some work early/late shifts. So get real and get your data before you start making obvious that you're so priviliged that you don't even realize that you are.
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grogthemagnifMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,651Arc User
edited May 2015
Interesting idea Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday 2x RP.
I think you have your priorities wrong. Clearly you should change your job to suit your gaming. It's obvious really...
Scant consolation but the weekend events usually run for three full days. Here in the UK it is typically 6pm Friday to 6pm Monday so there is a bit of weekday action to be had. Hard to please everyone I guess and imagine the crying from the weekenders if 2x RP was midweek.
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bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
edited May 2015
In Champions Online, they have a contact that, when a 2X XP event is going on, you simply talk to them, and they give you an 8 hours of in-game time double XP buff, (which you can renew at any time by talking to said contact again). I wonder if they could, when these events are running, place a contact on the event dais, who you can talk to and get this type of buff. Then, you need only talk to them when the event is running, and then you can use the buff at your leisure...
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Don't know if this was sarcasm..or observation..or what. ...
lol~ chillax, i'm just poking you
in fact, I've been looking forward for this token thingy to happen for other types of stuff before the time NW went live... i mean why heck not? players would be utilize the time in full whenever they want, without feeling of being ripoff, unfair, etc. etc... even better if it is based on login session. sadly until now, to no avail...
maybe from dev/marketing perspective, this look messy, unorganized, higher potential bug trigger, lesser revenue, not practical in large, and god knows what... only they (the company) themselves know it well... so they just have them in few around instead of many.
perhaps given time, when dev/marketing decide to re-look into these existing token / test around abit to see how it goes... maybe it can be realized. Well, one can only hope. Life is never fair in reality anyway.
- It's an understandable wish.
- It's technically possible without excessive work demand.
- It's highly probable that the ZEN sales would rise - maybe not by all that much, but still.
- ofc there are always people against everything. I fail to see any compulsive argument from that side, tough.
It would actually be interesting now to hear something from Cryptic as to whether or not this suggestion might be considered...
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,453Arc User
edited May 2015
One way is to make it happen in certain date. e.g. 14th, 15th, 16th of the month. Hence, it can be any 3 days of a week.
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Mo-Fr, 9-5 is clerk worktime. And even of these quite some work early/late shifts. So get real and get your data before you start making obvious that you're so priviliged that you don't even realize that you are.
Mon-Fri 9-5 is business time and school time for many folks. If there were more people playing during that time than not that time, I'm sure there would be event times that would coincide. I still don't care that the game won't cater to people who work outside that time or go to night school. If they changed it up and made events run 9-5 during weekdays, I still wouldn't care. That's my opinion of it as short as I can state it. Times are posted and if you can't make the time, then it's on you and not the company. 4 days of 2x refining and 7 days of CTA and 2xp is more than enough time for just about anyone.
I don't know what you think makes me "privileged" for feeling this way. Is it because I have a job? Because my job is 3pm-12am with what you would call "floating weekends" meaning my days off vary from week to week. I miss the start and end time of many events. If I could care less about the times of events, I would. You are not a special snowflake that deserves to put a bunch of people out because of your work/life choices and responsibilities. Neither am I. That doesn't make me privileged, it just shows that I don't have the same sense of entitlement as you and OP do.
Learn to balance your gametime.
Welcome to real-life. Deal with it.
Mon-Fri 9-5 is business time and school time for many folks. If there were more people playing during that time than not that time, I'm sure there would be event times that would coincide. I still don't care that the game won't cater to people who work outside that time or go to night school. If they changed it up and made events run 9-5 during weekdays, I still wouldn't care. That's my opinion of it as short as I can state it. Times are posted and if you can't make the time, then it's on you and not the company. 4 days of 2x refining and 7 days of CTA and 2xp is more than enough time for just about anyone.
I don't know what you think makes me "privileged" for feeling this way. Is it because I have a job? Because my job is 3pm-12am with what you would call "floating weekends" meaning my days off vary from week to week. I miss the start and end time of many events. If I could care less about the times of events, I would. You are not a special snowflake that deserves to put a bunch of people out because of your work/life choices and responsibilities. Neither am I. That doesn't make me privileged, it just shows that I don't have the same sense of entitlement as you and OP do.
Learn to balance your gametime.
Welcome to real-life. Deal with it.
You could care less, by not posting unnecessarily. Extending it a couple days either direction, obviously has no affect on you as you said... Some people just have different work schedules, it's really that simple...
Sorry to break it to you, but most people do have weekends.
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ambisinisterrMember, Neverwinter ModeratorPosts: 10,462Community Moderator
edited May 2015
I'm one of the people who don't have weekends. I work Sunday "morning" from 12 AM to 10 AM and Sunday night from 7 PM to 6 AM. However I know this is my issue. The world can't cater to everybody.
I just can't see things ever changing. Most people in the world do have weekends off or at least more hours than I do.
As Lincoln said, you can't make all the people happy all of the time but you can make some of the people happy some of the time. The goal is just to always try to make the most amount of people happy as possible and that means events end up on weekends when the most amount of people are home.
And many events tend to be a bit time sensitive not just in Neverwinter but in other MMO's as well. Extending events beyond the Friday to Monday which has more or less become industry standard could have less than ideal effects on balance and economic concerns.
ambisinisterrMember, Neverwinter ModeratorPosts: 10,462Community Moderator
edited May 2015
As a bit of an aside...
In the last two years I have never seen a maintenance without a person complaining about the time. If maintenance is at 7 AM PST, as it usual is, people complain it's in their prime time. If it's at 12 AM PST somebody complains. If it's at 3 PM PST somebody complains. And the funny thing is that no matter the person always says 'You always have maintenance in my prime time!'
My point is, no matter what time companies choose it's going to negatively effect somebody.
And no matter what that person feels like they are always shafted.
Yes they can have some events start on Tuesday and go to Friday and instead but I guarantee those weekend people (that are the majority of players) will waste no time coming to the forums kicking and screaming. They already do for other aspects such as limited time redeem codes which were granted in news articles as well as codes given out during Community Livestreams because being at work inhibited their ability to claim such codes.
*shrugs* It's not really easy to define "fair" let alone be fair about it. Hence why companies seem to stick with the weekend and holiday events.
You could care less, by not posting unnecessarily. Extending it a couple days either direction, obviously has no affect on you as you said... Some people just have different work schedules, it's really that simple...
I'm not sure what you are saying here. Is my opinion or opposing viewpoint unnecessary? If I have an opinion or opposing viewpoint to what someone in the thread is saying, I should just not post? I can't tell you the reasons why I can care less?
What I see as an unnecessary post/response is you summing up my argument immediately after I put it up, but then also telling me not to post unnecessarily.
In Champions Online, they have a contact that, when a 2X XP event is going on, you simply talk to them, and they give you an 8 hours of in-game time double XP buff, (which you can renew at any time by talking to said contact again). I wonder if they could, when these events are running, place a contact on the event dais, who you can talk to and get this type of buff. Then, you need only talk to them when the event is running, and then you can use the buff at your leisure...
+1
Doubt to be implemented though. Feel of rare opportunity in limited time, exclusive deal, etc makes folks less reluctant to spend money, in other circumstances (like longer sale-off time) people have more restrain.
See..I LOVE the pizza example...that falls right into what I am saying believe it or not!
How so you ask? A business that provides what it's potential customer base desires enhances its revenues. I.E. Find out what your customer wants, provide it as best you can, at the best price around...what happens? The customer comes and buys what you got, do it good enough and they keep coming back again and again and you get wealthy...that's called CAPITALISM.
So why the pizza thing..you haven't answered the pizza thing!
I used to live in Las Vegas, Vegas is a 24hr. 7 days a week town. People work all kinds of weird hrs. Tourists keep all kinds of weird hrs. especially what to them on the other side of the world is night when its day in Vegas. So the pizza...Many of the pizza joints in Vegas deliberately place themselves within a short drive of the "Strip", that's Las Vegas Blvd., the largest concentration of megahotels are there.
They not only catch the local that wishs to dine on pizza, they get delivery orders from tourists in the hotels. Now, Vegas being the city it is, has many of those pizza joints have hrs far different than other cities, were other cities pizzarias close at 9 or 10 or even 11 PM, most Vegas places stay open until 2 AM or 3 AM. There are even 2 of them that stay open 24 hours a day! Yes..you can get pizza at 8.15 AM in Vegas, there is even at times a LINE at 8.15 AM to get pizza! The owner adopted a business model that knew the customers couldn't get pizza at that time any were else but from him, he provided a service, and reaped the rewards.
So, back to my original premise, what harm would it be for them to provide a product/service to people that couldn't get it at the time they had it for offering? Like in Vegas, people that got a craving for pizza at 7.35 AM, they will drive clear across town to feed their need. Offer the item to trigger to the customers that can't buy your pizza @ 6 PM..let them get your scrumptious 2X refine @ 7.23 AM on a wed. they will beat a path clear across town to buy your 'za
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But for the sake of argument, let's assume this gets implemented. What would happen?
- People would stop playing, that's what. Consider. If I could save all future events and activate them when it suits me, what's the point of grinding RP today if I can do it faster on saturday?
- Their spending attitude would drop to 0.
[...]
In short, the pizza joint might gain from such adaptation to the market. MMOs do not.
...and Iran would get the nuke and sell it to Mongolia which then bombs North Korea.
/sarcasm.
Grinding:
Is a 24/7/365 thing. I've been playing this and other games at all possible times of day and never ever have there been totally deserted times in the grind-o-rama zones. Unless the game was anyway all but dead. And the other thing there is that even if that were t not the case the time-frame ticket concept or weeklong 2x events would probably rather enhance grinding. People will rather grind more, because they'll be able to do this when they have the most time for doing that.
Spending attitude:
Why would that suffer? Sure, the "*!*!* On SALE!! NOW!!-onlytiltomorrow *!*!*"-"deal"-impulse-buyers mght spend a wee less (...and Cryptic firmly believes in this incentive, as manifested by the Coupon loot drops, sure), but the more rational deciders would IMHO probably spend more. At least in cases where retailers expand their open hours, sales always increase. They do have the problem that the cost of running the shop is the balancing factor, which is not an issue here. But turnover increases, always. Lacking increased cost in this virtureality here, Cryptic's profit should, too.
The only ones to not profit (or rather "less") IMHO are the smart big-liquid-AD-pool short-traders, buying e.g. all RP on the AH the moment the news of a 2x RP event breaks, and immediately putting them up again - for twice the price. Because (a) the prices might not soar all that high, and (b) they'd maybe have to do that twice during weeklong events, thus incurring twice the AH fee. And even for them this merely means some slightly lower profit margins...
The only people that would "suffer" from this idea would be the AH monopolists. They wouldn't have a target time frame to buy up everything and resell it for double or more. Also you have gotten off my original idea. The trigger itself would have a decay time, so your statement that people would play less because they could save up all those tokens and cash them in at some opportune RP sale don't fit.
My idea was: a trigger item that you activate to make your own reward "weekend" not on the actual weekend. The token to actually decay itself if not used in a timely fashion (like 2 weeks).
About your driving them to the weekend play thing to drive desire. Don't hold water. They don't care if you play at 3 am or 6 pm, they don't care if its wed., sat or 6th thur. on a leap yr. They don't even care if you play. They made a game, a product if you will that they market to get you to come to and spend money. It's a slot machine, hell the treasure boxes should all have a pull bar on them! So if you come at wed 6am to spend the money they don't care. The game is up and running just like a slot machine..it has bells and clanking sounds to get you to drop a coin in, if you drop that coin on sat. at 7pm or wed. as long as you put the money in...they don't care...the electric bill will be the same.
Why do pit bosses hand out comps to players? To keep the player in-house. It's not because you won, it's not because you lost. It's because you have some money and they know if they keep you around longer, the odds are you will play and the house odds will catch up and you will leave with less than you walked in with. So they give you "free" booze and food. You stick around and drop more coins.
What is a weekend event? A slot tournament. They add some reward out of their budget to "entice" people to come and play for a set fee. They actually give out more than they gather from the fees (quite often the tourney is a player club reward item). They know that even though they are giving out in the tourney far more than they take in fees, that they got you out of bed and in your car and in the casino to do so. That you are not likely to do the tourney and then just leave, that you are going to drop some coin "since I'm here anyway".
A weekend event is what is called a "loss leader", you have something so cheap you don't make any money or even loss on it. But it's so good that people beat a path to get it, oh and while they are there just got to get this other thing..and and maybe this to.
What would my idea do? Make a ready made slot tourney that the need not take a "loss leader" on. It gets me out of bed, in my car, in the casino and spending money. So I couldn't make the tourney..I was at work. So instead of me being bummed that I can't ever make that casinos tourneys, why bother even going in the damned casino!(and risking another casino getting me to go to their midweek tourney). It don't matter when I go in the casino/game, they got to pay the power/water and keep the doors open 24/7 anyway. The point is, they got me to come in at all (and possibly spend). The token/trigger idea gets me out of bed and in to spend, the weekend event don't get me in and spend.
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The majority of the workforce works the 9-ish to 5-ish weekdays with open weekends. Same goes for those in school from children to college/university. This is a game and I do not care in any way at all about OP working in healthcare wheeling patients from recovery to the exit door. I don't care in any way at all about anybody who has a profession that has different work hours. Tongue-in-cheek or serious as can be, any reason these folks give is nonsense of the highest order. Those are work hours and they take precedence over anything game-related.
I don't have time midweek since I work and have responsibilities when I come home and often have some sort of real-life event on many weekends. I don't clamor for things to change to suit me. There is a calendar available and forums for me to find out information on what is currently going on. If it happens to be a 2x weekend or a CTA and I missed the start of it...oh well, I'll get on it when I can and want since I usually have almost 5 days to do so before it ends. If I want to hop on Thursday night and play, I will and I will not complain that I am not getting something special because this is the only time I'm able to play at this moment.
This is a fun hobby. If I really want to devote time to this fun hobby, I will MAKE time for it. If I want to use it as a diversion I will use some actual downtime to play it. I do not think that a hobby (especially Neverwinter) should correct itself and make time for me in the ways many of the people in this thread are saying.
I can't think of many things in life that would cater to people's times. Today, I wanted pizza at 8am for some reason. Just had a taste for it. Guess what...pizza place doesn't open until 11am. Can't go at 11 because it's too far from work to be a feasible lunch decision so I'll go on my way home at 4pm. Guess what...pizza was $1 before 4pm. Now it's $3 from 4pm to 12am. Oh, and Tuesday it's buy 1 slice get 1 free. But it's Wednesday.
So tell me...should I tell the owner of this place that I should get $1 slices with getting one for free because I couldn't make it during the correct time? Should I tell him that it's unfair to me because of my work hours? Do I tell him that if I followed the posted schedule that I would be too tired to effectively do my job (as OP did)? Or do I suck it up and go when I can or make time to go when I really want to go?
AKA..Do I play the game when I can or do I tell the people that they should change the game or do something special for me because I have a different time schedule than nearly everyone else and don't want to find something that suits me?
and how would making events all week long instead of 5day to 1day(or whatever timezone you are in) **** u up ?
Agreed...you cannot get too much of a good thing...
I don't know how it would "****" me up. Doubt it would. I have no issue with extending or shortening current events or how the current system of events time out. I don't see it necessary to be changed as it is.
You want an extra 3 days for 2xp RP...fine with me. Just come out and say that. Propose your ideas more coherently than OP did. But if you want to be treated as a special player because your work schedule doesn't match up with how you want to game in Neverwinter...well sort your priorities out and figure out if you want to game 24/7 or want to pay the bills and game a little less.
CTA already runs a week long, now you want 2x weekends to run 7 days instead of 4? I'm guessing here, but I'm strongly inclined to believe that these 2x weekends are occurring on the weekend (actually mid Friday to mid Monday (plenty of time IMO)) because that is when the majority of people are spending more than invoking time in the game.
a) It's often enough "lose your job" - might be a difficult concept above a certain arrogance level (not addressing the quoted poster personally but several in this thread)...
b) There was no "treated as a special player" expressed by the OP - just the suggestion to make events like 2x RP token-triggered for a certain time, within a certain time window. What's the special treatment here? Because: If this were done, everybody would be at liberty to start whenever it suits best within that time window...
c) he backed this suggestion with personal problem story - to construct the "special treatment"-wish from can be constructed as malignant and can also be constructed as offensive.
d) The "majority of the workforce" (again not the quoted poster) does not work 9-5. Factory workers most often work 2-3 shift models, as do healthcare and all those listed above. All long distance haulage business (except for maybe the very high echelons and their staff) works 24/6 or 24/7. Retail chain employees work well outside that window - here in Germany this is already like 50% of the workforce.
Mo-Fr, 9-5 is clerk worktime. And even of these quite some work early/late shifts. So get real and get your data before you start making obvious that you're so priviliged that you don't even realize that you are.
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in fact, I've been looking forward for this token thingy to happen for other types of stuff before the time NW went live... i mean why heck not? players would be utilize the time in full whenever they want, without feeling of being ripoff, unfair, etc. etc... even better if it is based on login session. sadly until now, to no avail...
maybe from dev/marketing perspective, this look messy, unorganized, higher potential bug trigger, lesser revenue, not practical in large, and god knows what... only they (the company) themselves know it well... so they just have them in few around instead of many.
perhaps given time, when dev/marketing decide to re-look into these existing token / test around abit to see how it goes... maybe it can be realized. Well, one can only hope. Life is never fair in reality anyway.
- It's an understandable wish.
- It's technically possible without excessive work demand.
- It's highly probable that the ZEN sales would rise - maybe not by all that much, but still.
- ofc there are always people against everything. I fail to see any compulsive argument from that side, tough.
It would actually be interesting now to hear something from Cryptic as to whether or not this suggestion might be considered...
Mon-Fri 9-5 is business time and school time for many folks. If there were more people playing during that time than not that time, I'm sure there would be event times that would coincide. I still don't care that the game won't cater to people who work outside that time or go to night school. If they changed it up and made events run 9-5 during weekdays, I still wouldn't care. That's my opinion of it as short as I can state it. Times are posted and if you can't make the time, then it's on you and not the company. 4 days of 2x refining and 7 days of CTA and 2xp is more than enough time for just about anyone.
I don't know what you think makes me "privileged" for feeling this way. Is it because I have a job? Because my job is 3pm-12am with what you would call "floating weekends" meaning my days off vary from week to week. I miss the start and end time of many events. If I could care less about the times of events, I would. You are not a special snowflake that deserves to put a bunch of people out because of your work/life choices and responsibilities. Neither am I. That doesn't make me privileged, it just shows that I don't have the same sense of entitlement as you and OP do.
Learn to balance your gametime.
Welcome to real-life. Deal with it.
You could care less, by not posting unnecessarily. Extending it a couple days either direction, obviously has no affect on you as you said... Some people just have different work schedules, it's really that simple...
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I just can't see things ever changing. Most people in the world do have weekends off or at least more hours than I do.
As Lincoln said, you can't make all the people happy all of the time but you can make some of the people happy some of the time. The goal is just to always try to make the most amount of people happy as possible and that means events end up on weekends when the most amount of people are home.
And many events tend to be a bit time sensitive not just in Neverwinter but in other MMO's as well. Extending events beyond the Friday to Monday which has more or less become industry standard could have less than ideal effects on balance and economic concerns.
In the last two years I have never seen a maintenance without a person complaining about the time. If maintenance is at 7 AM PST, as it usual is, people complain it's in their prime time. If it's at 12 AM PST somebody complains. If it's at 3 PM PST somebody complains. And the funny thing is that no matter the person always says 'You always have maintenance in my prime time!'
My point is, no matter what time companies choose it's going to negatively effect somebody.
And no matter what that person feels like they are always shafted.
Yes they can have some events start on Tuesday and go to Friday and instead but I guarantee those weekend people (that are the majority of players) will waste no time coming to the forums kicking and screaming. They already do for other aspects such as limited time redeem codes which were granted in news articles as well as codes given out during Community Livestreams because being at work inhibited their ability to claim such codes.
*shrugs* It's not really easy to define "fair" let alone be fair about it. Hence why companies seem to stick with the weekend and holiday events.
I'm not sure what you are saying here. Is my opinion or opposing viewpoint unnecessary? If I have an opinion or opposing viewpoint to what someone in the thread is saying, I should just not post? I can't tell you the reasons why I can care less?
What I see as an unnecessary post/response is you summing up my argument immediately after I put it up, but then also telling me not to post unnecessarily.
Doubt to be implemented though. Feel of rare opportunity in limited time, exclusive deal, etc makes folks less reluctant to spend money, in other circumstances (like longer sale-off time) people have more restrain.
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How so you ask? A business that provides what it's potential customer base desires enhances its revenues. I.E. Find out what your customer wants, provide it as best you can, at the best price around...what happens? The customer comes and buys what you got, do it good enough and they keep coming back again and again and you get wealthy...that's called CAPITALISM.
So why the pizza thing..you haven't answered the pizza thing!
I used to live in Las Vegas, Vegas is a 24hr. 7 days a week town. People work all kinds of weird hrs. Tourists keep all kinds of weird hrs. especially what to them on the other side of the world is night when its day in Vegas. So the pizza...Many of the pizza joints in Vegas deliberately place themselves within a short drive of the "Strip", that's Las Vegas Blvd., the largest concentration of megahotels are there.
They not only catch the local that wishs to dine on pizza, they get delivery orders from tourists in the hotels. Now, Vegas being the city it is, has many of those pizza joints have hrs far different than other cities, were other cities pizzarias close at 9 or 10 or even 11 PM, most Vegas places stay open until 2 AM or 3 AM. There are even 2 of them that stay open 24 hours a day! Yes..you can get pizza at 8.15 AM in Vegas, there is even at times a LINE at 8.15 AM to get pizza! The owner adopted a business model that knew the customers couldn't get pizza at that time any were else but from him, he provided a service, and reaped the rewards.
So, back to my original premise, what harm would it be for them to provide a product/service to people that couldn't get it at the time they had it for offering? Like in Vegas, people that got a craving for pizza at 7.35 AM, they will drive clear across town to feed their need. Offer the item to trigger to the customers that can't buy your pizza @ 6 PM..let them get your scrumptious 2X refine @ 7.23 AM on a wed. they will beat a path clear across town to buy your 'za
...I beg to differ *looking_sidewards_at_the_pile_of_lockbox-shaped_lottery_tickest*
...and Iran would get the nuke and sell it to Mongolia which then bombs North Korea.
/sarcasm.
Grinding:
Is a 24/7/365 thing. I've been playing this and other games at all possible times of day and never ever have there been totally deserted times in the grind-o-rama zones. Unless the game was anyway all but dead. And the other thing there is that even if that were t not the case the time-frame ticket concept or weeklong 2x events would probably rather enhance grinding. People will rather grind more, because they'll be able to do this when they have the most time for doing that.
Spending attitude:
Why would that suffer? Sure, the "*!*!* On SALE!! NOW!! - only til tomorrow *!*!*"-"deal"-impulse-buyers mght spend a wee less (...and Cryptic firmly believes in this incentive, as manifested by the Coupon loot drops, sure), but the more rational deciders would IMHO probably spend more. At least in cases where retailers expand their open hours, sales always increase. They do have the problem that the cost of running the shop is the balancing factor, which is not an issue here. But turnover increases, always. Lacking increased cost in this virtureality here, Cryptic's profit should, too.
The only ones to not profit (or rather "less") IMHO are the smart big-liquid-AD-pool short-traders, buying e.g. all RP on the AH the moment the news of a 2x RP event breaks, and immediately putting them up again - for twice the price. Because (a) the prices might not soar all that high, and (b) they'd maybe have to do that twice during weeklong events, thus incurring twice the AH fee. And even for them this merely means some slightly lower profit margins...
My idea was: a trigger item that you activate to make your own reward "weekend" not on the actual weekend. The token to actually decay itself if not used in a timely fashion (like 2 weeks).
About your driving them to the weekend play thing to drive desire. Don't hold water. They don't care if you play at 3 am or 6 pm, they don't care if its wed., sat or 6th thur. on a leap yr. They don't even care if you play. They made a game, a product if you will that they market to get you to come to and spend money. It's a slot machine, hell the treasure boxes should all have a pull bar on them!
Why do pit bosses hand out comps to players? To keep the player in-house. It's not because you won, it's not because you lost. It's because you have some money and they know if they keep you around longer, the odds are you will play and the house odds will catch up and you will leave with less than you walked in with. So they give you "free" booze and food. You stick around and drop more coins.
What is a weekend event? A slot tournament. They add some reward out of their budget to "entice" people to come and play for a set fee. They actually give out more than they gather from the fees (quite often the tourney is a player club reward item). They know that even though they are giving out in the tourney far more than they take in fees, that they got you out of bed and in your car and in the casino to do so. That you are not likely to do the tourney and then just leave, that you are going to drop some coin "since I'm here anyway".
A weekend event is what is called a "loss leader", you have something so cheap you don't make any money or even loss on it. But it's so good that people beat a path to get it, oh and while they are there just got to get this other thing..and and maybe this to.
What would my idea do? Make a ready made slot tourney that the need not take a "loss leader" on. It gets me out of bed, in my car, in the casino and spending money. So I couldn't make the tourney..I was at work. So instead of me being bummed that I can't ever make that casinos tourneys, why bother even going in the damned casino!(and risking another casino getting me to go to their midweek tourney). It don't matter when I go in the casino/game, they got to pay the power/water and keep the doors open 24/7 anyway. The point is, they got me to come in at all (and possibly spend). The token/trigger idea gets me out of bed and in to spend, the weekend event don't get me in and spend.
My Work could be called the Neverending Weekend. :cool: