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I am completely sick of this nonsense.
ggsurr20
Member Posts: 16 Arc User
Once I got to lvl60, I was really excited to start playing epic dungeons but then things began getting ******ed, it was all fine and dandy up Caverns of karrundax but once I got to spellplague caverns, things started getting out of control and i'm really starting to get angry about it, enough to come on the forums and I literally never do that most of the time. The kicking system is getting abused to absurd levels and it needs to get sorted out, for one I don't know why 3/5 people means a kick, it should be 4/5 and I personally don't think the kick request should be something you can spam. It's either matchmaking needs to be regulated so there is always a cleric and tank or the kicking system needs to be sorted out, I've had DPS in my party who would die only once, or make a single mistake and they get insta kicked, it's actually stupid. Please sort this out, you need to find some way to make kicking reasonable because at this rate I don't know if i'm going to play this game much longer.
GG.
GG.
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The reason you get kicked is because they need a specific class, for example maybe they already had a (whatever class you are) so they needed a healer of tank or whatever, that's why the kick feature is there.
Maybe you should play a more useful class or get friend so your not joining random dungeons
There is so much wrong with the first part of your comment.
The kick feature was not designed to remove someone in hopes of finding a different class. It was designed for situations where someone is inactivate, not participating, DCed for an indefinite amount of time, etc. At its current state, it's being abused to the extent that people don't want competition for the gear that can drop for their class. My friends and I were in a constant "Vote Kick" contest last night because another GWF wanted me out because "no one gets my gear" (the exact reason that was posted) and another person tried kicking my friend because "Not as L337 as me".
Granted, I know not everyone is like this and some will do it to try and find a healer/tank, but it's not often enough to consider it's not being abused.
Regarding you second comment, agreed. Grouping with friends (join a guild) will solve this issue almost entirely.
the point is he should be able to play any class he wants, if everyone starts making clerics and tanks then they will just started getting kicked instead because there will be no dps.
i agree about playing with friends though, i met a lot of people on here since launch and we always run stuff together. makes life a lot easier, no raging, no kicks and makes eveything more fun
if your on tonight send me a message or something if we have a spare slot will take you for some runs regardless of your class and gearscore
edit - add me if you want - gamertag = GAANJAA81, ingame name = Cornish
just wow ... how can you be so ignorant? kicking is there to get a better team comp?? really?? yikes if this is the mindset of the player base in the queues then this game really is doomed
The idea that a group in this game needs to be comprised of the core "holy trinity" is flat out wrong.
The majority of content can be simply burned through.
Are the situations (boss fights) where there is an ideal group set up? Yes. If you plan on running the few instances where group make up truly matters, don't run it in a que'd pug.
Every class has it's uses and within each class there are numerous builds, each class can fill multiple roles.
The kick feature is abused, plain and simple.
People spam it for no reason. Why people still vote yes as often as they do is beyond me.
There are people who get into a group, and immediately put a kick to a vote - it's out of hand.
There are QUE thiefs who try and steal campfires with keyboards and kick votes - it's out of hand.
There are people who QUE hop and if they see somebody of the same class they put a kick to a vote - it's out of hand.
The only way to avoid this, is to group constantly with people you "know".
Finally got in a group where I felt like it was okay to loot the greens, die once or twice, and be a ranger. We had two clerics and no tank.
Suck it up and learn how to dodge. If you have no healer - suck it up, learn how to dodge, and buy lots of healing potions.
This mentality that one cleric and one guardian are needed for every dungeon is not realistic.
People who NEED a tank/healer are the people who aren't good enough to begin with. Every dungeon except CN and DV are easy without a tank/healer and those two i usualy run with guild due to lenght.
If you NEED a healer or tank then YOUR skills are the problem, not the guy you just kicked.
You could still request s join when of you weren't the specified class, usually with a tell to the op first.
Actually grouping with friends doesn't solve it, the kick system is broken and so far they're making no attempts as to solve it. The best thing to do is go in with a group of everyone as a few times I've gone in with 4 friends and 1 person manages to make the kick happen. From what i've seen 3 attempts and then out.
Hopefully they just remove the kick system completely as AFK will usually idle you out anyway. Or at least propose a system as like you can choose what classes you would like in the spots you have left and then if for some reason they want to kick someone from a setlist of reasons for:
Inactivity: haven't moved so far in (x) amount of minutes.
Too weak: healed/damaged (x) amount less than players
Offensive: has written (x) amount of filtered messages
From experience if you give an idiot power, they will abuse it.
Also would be nice if the other person saw the reason as to why they were being kicked, so that way if it was unfair they could then click an Appeal button of some sort then given a task along the line of do this amount of damage in that time etc.
This seems like a good idea, but if that griefer that needs to get kicked appeals too then it breaks this. Everyone who gets kicked would just use this "appeal" and scream unfair.
That's true but at least it's a step into some direction. Currently there's no proof of them doing anything, honestly the only way they could solve every problem is just remove any kicking, matchmake it so people are around your sort of skill level and then that way there's not really any excuse because they'd have the same sort of play style as you do. Do that along with choosing which classes you'd like to play with might actually be the better system to work off. That way instead of groups trying to over-power everyone in the room, they'd have to be in group with their friends before they queue and no other way.
I think a kick system is useless anyway in most, just causes problems like this.
Edit: they could also make them into two queues, 1 where kicking is allowed and another where people just want to play, give people a chance and play where kicking isn't allowed.
Having said that, there are a dozen threads on this already floating around out there and this belongs in the feedback forum.
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A bit off topic as it's not necessarily about the vote kick system but still kinda related. Sure it's getting nerfed in the next Mod. But as of right now, Xbox One is running Mod 5 balancing. Life Steal is known to be incredibly and brokenly overpowered and I personally don't see very many console players taking advantage of this fact. On PC, my DC will finish a T2 and parse for roughly 40% of the groups total healing. On Xbox I'm typically parsing for closer to 85% of the groups total healing. On PC, my DC usually gets vote kicked because the group doesn't want a healer, they want more DPS classes. On Xbox its quite the opposite. (note: my PC experience is only up to and includes mod 5, I quit playing the PC version the day the console version came out) There's just way too many people playing the game right now who have absolutely no idea what they're doing, why they've spec'd their class the way they have, or what gear and enchants they should be running. Hell, just a few minutes ago I ran into a fellow DC who was sporting nothing but Dark Enchants.... Just... WAT?
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You don't need to be in a guild or find a full party (as some people suggest). You only need two additional people and you're golden. Heck, I bet you can find two people in this thread who would group with you to prevent kicking
I use to despise the social scene and community in DDO for the grouping, and I think neverwinter's is a lot batter. They just need to fix the xbox one's queuing system as it stands there some flaws and it is NOT player related in general it is SERVER related.
Definitely find a guild, you'll have a lot more fun. Don't re-roll unless you just want another character though, it doesn't matter what you choose you will get kicked, maybe not as much, but right now people are going crazy with it. At least as an over played class you get kicked at the start, as a cleric if you can't keep the guy standing in red and not using potions alive then you'll get kicked at the boss, that really blows.
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As for the abuse, that is there. Its stupid but that is the player's control.
Hahahaha, didn't bother to read the thread did you? This is about the epic dungeons. You can't join them solo