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Rogue's are extremely over powered/PvP not replacing players when it should
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Rogue's are unbelievably Over powered in PvP, it's almost unbearable. You take one class that can easily take out 3 guy's almost one hitting everyone of them, I'm a Guardian Fighter with 35,000+ HP, and they take out half my HP in a single hit, and then at the same time as taking out half my HP in one hit they also stun lock me leaving me unable to defend myself therefore killing me in one encounter..... Not to mention my character type is the SLOWEST in the game, I do have some moves that stun lock, but I can't hit most people with them types of moves, because everybody's got some form of move that makes them dodge attacks, so referring to the Rogue specifically they can hit me, stun lock me, and take out half of my HP in the one hit. Then when I come out of stun lock I can try to use one of my encounter moves and it just says "DODGED", I can't block the stun lock invis move if I do successfully block the move it still takes a lot of my HP, and from what I noticed happen to me I still get stun locked, and I can't dodge it. I personally think the Rogue's need to be fixed to where it's not the most overpowered Character type in the game, I can't even enjoy a single PvP game because these Rogue's are ruining the fun. Also I'd like to point out that when somebody backs out in PvP they don't get replaced so then you're stuck with one less person, there was a few games where I was the only one left on my team against 5 guy's. What's one Guardian Fighter supposed to do by them self in a PvP game besides leave, and I personally am not about leaving games what's the point in playing if your just going to back out when it's a tougher game... So why should I be punished when I don't back out? There should be some sort of penalty for quitting early such as a timer on when you can join another PvP queue, or the next game (depending on how many games you back out prior) you get a percentage based on games deducted from your end game reward(s). Anyway these are things I personally feel need to be looked at by game DEV's just to make the game feeling more balanced, and to encourage to finish games, specifically when the game gets tough.
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Pyx - LvL 60 PvP AC DC Retired
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Then find a group and queue as a pre-made. (Problem solved)
Agreed, rogues are not that bad if you have a team, try and get recruited by a pvp guild.
Divine 60 Spellstorm Control Wizard
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You just have to corrdinate spikes and CC. Hardest cleric to take down I've seen is Gravitron, from Made in Quebeq.
Divine 60 Spellstorm Control Wizard
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I love how powerful DC's have become now. Before I quit on PC you had to be extremely skilled with very good, specific gear to stand a chance..specially in premades.
2 DC's and 2 TR's certainly doesn't mean game over though. If you have a horrible team that likes to fight off points and doesn't understand triage killing then yes.
Just have to have good back cappers that can hold a point, or at the very least put it in contention. Once you get that, everything changes and the other team is forced to move around, more than likely those 2 DC's will split and then its back to game time if your team can focus.
And as for rogues, everyone knows they are the for the noobs class.
Let them have it, it's just more satisfying when you kill their squishy *** knowing they died miserably even though they are overpowered.
Ohhhh how we love to hunt them DCs
OR you can simply stand behind them invisible and wait for the yellow circle to go away, then slow/daze them, finish them with duelist flurry or cloud of steel. if they somehow live, a shadow of demise will proc for 20k and one hit them. Can also use impossible to catch in between so no one interrupts you from picking off the Dc.
In-any case, people need to stop hating on the Tr, they already got nerfed a ton. A mod3 TR can solo an entire pvp party without breaking stealth once. Now a couple at-wills and the stealth is drained, be happy you aren't playing the old neverwinter, otherwise you'd probably had rage quit by now and broke your xbox one.
People complained for 2 YEARS, Perfectworld still thinks to this day the rouges have been nerfed enough, hell they probably play as them.
I love my Tr, and having the ability to solo the dracolich and make other rouges look like <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> because they are new-to-mmo generation and thought a sneaky class would be cool. I also love to see the new-to-mmo generation start playing nevewinter on the xbx1 for the first time and finding out TR is OP and dominates the entire game. (bunch of naabes)
Anyway to all rouges out there, go to my xbox profile and watch the solo of dracolich, use my build. If you aren't, you're doing lousy dps, and a dummy.
Peace gangsters.
As a DC i can agree 1000000%. A decent warlock wrecks me super quick and i absolutely dread seeing one in most matches. DC's aren't hard to take down though unless they are straight heals and buffs. But then their damage is <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. We still get insta killed by most rouges though
Anyway, I have my own thread in this forum that asks the question, "How does a Hunter beat a rogue in PvP ?"
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^This
There's just something so satisfying about killing a Rogue.
They need to be balanced. no attacking while stealthed. no dodging literally everything thrown at them. no taking more damage then a plate wearing tank. And definitely no instant kills. Its BS to walk around and randomly die because a stealthed rogue happened to be standing nearby with their instant kill available.
Guild Wars did this with great effect for many years. It's a great way of levelling the playing field and would apply to all OP skills from ALL classes.
E.g. my CW has a new skill in mod 6 that deals HUGE damage in one hit and if the opponent is below a certain HP/My weapon ratio they are insta-killed. I wiped about 10 players with it yesterday - it was great
The problem is I don't think ANY class should be able to drop 50%+ of your HP with a single encounter. Dailys ok, they take a while to charge & its luck of the draw, but this skill has a short cooldown...
A skill by skill reassessment for pvp only is imo the best way to address things.
You wait til we see L70 paladins in PvP, even the TR's will be calling for a nerf
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Member of Casual Dailies - XBox
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
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Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Member of Casual Dailies - XBox
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
Unleash The Wolves- HR Lvl 70 (PVE)
<font color="Aquamarine">"Non-Pay-To-Win"</font>
I hunt GWF "Magik" on sight.
Probably be similar too TR pre-mod an each game will probably have multiple paladins on the teams being new an all, especially when people start hitting the higher lvl, so paladins will probably go toe to toe most of the time in the later games (immortal conflict) just holding the node or trying to cap.
contest changes where can't contest 1v1, people will just troll/kite him on the node just too keep building points for the team an leave match 4v4, even if they dont go cap an 5v5 battle at 2 it going too be on the performance of the players too win that battle, an one team will fail and all that remains is a paladin at 2 for no reason since he can't contest(1v2+). PvP teams just need too hold home base and 2, no reason too push for 1/3 (enemy base).
Just not going too see that big of a change later down the road in pvp with the paladins.
let's just say after a while they just ignore me =(
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
Unleash The Wolves- HR Lvl 70 (PVE)
<font color="Aquamarine">"Non-Pay-To-Win"</font>
I hunt GWF "Magik" on sight.
Personally, in PVP I haven't been up against a Paladin yet (Or if I have, I haven't noticed), but GWF are now seriously OP. I mean, I had a match last night where I went in stealth and ran the opposite way in which the GWF was coming, yet, somehow, while going invisible, he used some encounter and still hit me hard, I'm also still invisible when knocked down and he sure as hell came over to finish the job. It probably doesn't help that I have none of the new PVP gear and are not using the new Elementals since they undercut my current weapons at the moment. (Vid http://xboxclips.com/NikkiNight/4d17cacf-43f5-426c-8ac3-8f4b9b6841c6)
It seems Clerics also do a nice chunk of damage now as well. CW's not so much. And HR's have those deadly roots that seem to have you "disabled" for a darn long time.
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