For this the FIRST STEPS are to reduce PVE mob damage, they should still hurt, but FIRST do that. THEN! Give MORE mobs CC immunity, not just resist. Then see how hard it is, if you want hard content, make the MINORITY of mobs "controllable" or able to be dazed etc.
It won't work for several reasons: CWs also have a control path. Let them control stuff that isn't immune. Currently two of the T2s are former T1s, which meant npcs with few spells, predictable red areas and forgiving encounters. They were buffed as is, not really reworked, and they weren't meant to be CC immune. Wait for dungeons like spellplague or karrundax, then you'll get plenty of cc immune npcs.
The second reason is that the devs removed too many npcs not to make slashing damage by 50% making support (even a tank) completely irrelevent. You're not stupid and you know it. You also know that cryptic certainly doesn't have time to do that, they don't have time to go back on encounters, create more npcs, add new spells, new mechanics, add more npcs to encounters to make damage sustained instead of burst... It won't happen, that's 100% sure. So it's just going to be a simple nerf to damage and hitpoints, let's divide everything by 2 or 3 and call it a day. And then we'll be back to mod 4/5 state, which was kind of horrible and drove many, many of the players i've played with, including the two guilds I've been in, out of the game. So I'd rather sacrifice one niche role for one class instead of making the game look stupid again so that GWFs can tank and that Mr Trololo with his CW in lvl 50 greens can complete any T2 dungeon.
"So I'd rather sacrifice one niche role for one class instead of making the game look stupid again so that GWFs can tank and that Mr Trololo with his CW in lvl 50 greens can complete any T2 dungeon."
gwf can tank again=cw **** monsters... hmmm... one more got what is the first necessary thing to do? why not "sacrifice" - balance - first ONE CLASS and then save one niche role (primary function of 2 classes and secundary of one)
MOD 6 (CURRENT) 04/14/15 PST
I ran my test with my LVL 70 TR MI Executioner (glass cannon)
with Oppressive Darkness rank 4 (should be over 30% bonus) class feature.
And my weapons I've refined a bit now vs yesterday when I got them & my gears. My gear consisted of - New green Artifact weapon set on no Greater Vorpal on; I had my lvl 70 PVP set Burning Executioner with mostly rank 7's some 8's, some lesser dragon hoards on & 2 x Greater Red Dragon Glyph. Blue Iuoun Stone with some HP/Power & CS on it nothing super fancy lvl 70 greens I think..... Artifact 1 purple (rank 65) lantern, 2 blue (rank 58) vanguard banner, 3 blue (rank 51) sigil of hunter, 4 blue (rank 51) raven skull. Dom shirt, pant, ring set.
My log's of various powers during my test of the NEW class feature which is garbage for my build. I stopped using it after.
*I did start using Skillful Infiltrator, it was bugged at least with my char's build on mod 5 but it is working again*
Running test in Aria/Zone 1 of Spinward Rise. I highlighted the first few Oppressive Darkness dmg. I'm pretty sure it should be 40% as I have rank 4 of the class feature which you can only do rank 4 on paragon powers/features or on new class features once you've reached lvl 70 & spent the required points. ITC I could have if I wanted made rank 4 +1s buff x 3 + orig. buff time. But I didn't because I wanted to try the new stuff out & honestly I dont use ITC much. I don't expliot on stuff unlike some ppl.. Here's the logs.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 14716 (14287) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 317 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 324 (317) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 633 (618) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 17081 (16584) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 297 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 334 (297) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 16752 (16264) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 296 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Shadow Strike deals 3499 (3397) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 304 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 20712 (20108) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 287 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 694 (618) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 19358 (18794) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 288 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Superior Healing Potion gives 10000 Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 324 (288) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [System Notify] [ItemLost] You used Potion of Superior Healing.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 18745 (18199) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 312 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 18272 (17740) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 300 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 307 (300) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 17406 (16899) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 296 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Gloaming Cut deals 6568 (6377) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Warrior deals 3200 (14436) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Warrior deals 18245 (20573) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 14937 (14502) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Warrior deals 15251 (17197) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Warrior gives 0 (14939) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Warrior gives 0 (16639) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Not enough Stealth
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Shadow Strike deals 2622 (2546) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 10645 (10335) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 304 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 8686 (8433) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 289 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Elven Ferocity deals 20600 (20000) Arcane Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 295 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 9812 (9526) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Warrior gives 0 (14628) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Not enough Stealth [4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Not enough Stealth
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Shadow Strike deals 2523 (2449) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Not enough Stealth
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Warrior deals 3566 (16084) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 20830 (20224) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 279 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 17535 (17025) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 291 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 23155 (22480) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 284 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 25274 (24538) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 300 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Lantern of Revelation deals 4090 (4641) Radiant Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Lantern of Revelation deals 4090 (4641) Radiant Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Lantern of Revelation deals 4090 (4641) Radiant Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Lantern of Revelation deals 5244 (4641) Radiant Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 28662 (25365) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 325 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 678 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 29764 (26340) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 286 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 678 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 298 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Shadow Strike deals 4743 (4197) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 678 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Song of Life gives 1782 Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Warrior deals 14257 (16076) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
& it keeps going like that. Then I mix it up some more heres part 2 of testing from same session.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 19755 (18292) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 317 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 486 (463) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 507 (470) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 512 (488) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry deals 5709 (5286) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 292 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 509 (471) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 234 (223) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 405 (375) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 394 (375) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry deals 3436 (3181) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 399 (369) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 223 (212) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 395 (366) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 1212 (1122) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 401 (382) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 1199 (1110) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 409 (378) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Bleed deals 759 (703) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 228 (217) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 684 (633) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 440 (408) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Bleed deals 1724 (1596) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 663 (648) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 636 (589) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 228 (217) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 651 (636) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 732 (678) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 229 (212) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 750 (732) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 650 (602) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 235 (224) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 682 (631) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 244 (226) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 410 (390) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 698 (682) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 1285 (1189) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 241 (223) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Bleed deals 1724 (1596) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
I die pretty often too unless I use bait n switch, shadowstrike, etc which I don't like to do as I want to dps not play hide n seek. Its sad my old set I can do more dmg but die even quicker. lol
Lastly THE new OP class is pally & ? but not TR
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What you folk forget is that Storm Spell is utilized to be a useful spell since most of things that make a CW are quite ineffective. I'll remind you that Storm Spell has been already nerfed to proc only on a Critical Hit, but it's not a 100% chance, it's 30% chance.
To play a CW you really need to understand MANY factors revolving around the mathematics and whatnot in order to squeeze the best possible outcome. When that outcome isn't effective a certain alternative route has to be taken. In case of CW, the alternative route is Damage the masses. CW doesn't have the biggest single-target damage, CW's outshined by a SW and TR easily in dungeons such as elol and such. Storm Spell's ineffective on a single target due to a relative low proc.
Storm Spell is effective in masses which is exactly where the CW shines upon, however those masses need to be dragged to a specific less than 20ft ground such as Icy Terrain, which btw does the lowest damage out of all CW AOE spells.
Since the Control was nerfed in MOD3 > MOD4 to satisfy the PvP clients QQ, it affected the PvE player-base as well. That's why the Control Wizards are going for DPS due to being without many options and what one CW was supossed to do back in the days, now you need 3 CW in the party for the job of one.
You obviously don't play a CW, you just want to have more DPS as a GWF :rolleyes: which is quite obvious. When you learn how to use Come and Get it, for instance, instead of Frontline Surge, perhaps you might become more party-friendly and stop bashing on already super-nerfed CW skills which people use adequately.
All of the CW CC is extremely inefficient without having at least 3 CWs in the party, and you want Storm Spell to be nerfed again for your own pleasure, instead that developers do something more constructive such as - provide alternative ways to play a CW for instance.
I'd like to see your pure control wizard and let's see just how satisfactory playing as such a class really is in ToS 2000. Until then, don't talk <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
True Neutral
Left the Game due to heavy Damage Control & Missing Spanish Language
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It won't work for several reasons: CWs also have a control path. Let them control stuff that isn't immune. Currently two of the T2s are former T1s, which meant npcs with few spells, predictable red areas and forgiving encounters. They were buffed as is, not really reworked, and they weren't meant to be CC immune. Wait for dungeons like spellplague or karrundax, then you'll get plenty of cc immune npcs.
The second reason is that the devs removed too many npcs not to make slashing damage by 50% making support (even a tank) completely irrelevent. You're not stupid and you know it. You also know that cryptic certainly doesn't have time to do that, they don't have time to go back on encounters, create more npcs, add new spells, new mechanics, add more npcs to encounters to make damage sustained instead of burst... It won't happen, that's 100% sure. So it's just going to be a simple nerf to damage and hitpoints, let's divide everything by 2 or 3 and call it a day. And then we'll be back to mod 4/5 state, which was kind of horrible and drove many, many of the players i've played with, including the two guilds I've been in, out of the game. So I'd rather sacrifice one niche role for one class instead of making the game look stupid again so that GWFs can tank and that Mr Trololo with his CW in lvl 50 greens can complete any T2 dungeon.
gwf can tank again=cw **** monsters... hmmm... one more got what is the first necessary thing to do? why not "sacrifice" - balance - first ONE CLASS and then save one niche role (primary function of 2 classes and secundary of one)
???
I ran my test with my LVL 70 TR MI Executioner (glass cannon)
with Oppressive Darkness rank 4 (should be over 30% bonus) class feature.
And my weapons I've refined a bit now vs yesterday when I got them & my gears.
My gear consisted of - New green Artifact weapon set on
My log's of various powers during my test of the NEW class feature which is garbage for my build. I stopped using it after.
*I did start using Skillful Infiltrator, it was bugged at least with my char's build on mod 5 but it is working again*
Running test in Aria/Zone 1 of Spinward Rise.
I highlighted the first few Oppressive Darkness dmg. I'm pretty sure it should be 40% as I have rank 4 of the class feature which you can only do rank 4 on paragon powers/features or on new class features once you've reached lvl 70 & spent the required points. ITC I could have if I wanted made rank 4 +1s buff x 3 + orig. buff time. But I didn't because I wanted to try the new stuff out & honestly I dont use ITC much. I don't expliot on stuff unlike some ppl.. Here's the logs.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 317 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 324 (317) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 633 (618) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 17081 (16584) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 297 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 334 (297) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 16752 (16264) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 296 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Shadow Strike deals 3499 (3397) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 304 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 20712 (20108) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 287 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 694 (618) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 19358 (18794) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 288 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Superior Healing Potion gives 10000 Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 324 (288) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [System Notify] [ItemLost] You used Potion of Superior Healing.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 18745 (18199) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 312 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 18272 (17740) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 300 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 307 (300) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 17406 (16899) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 296 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Gloaming Cut deals 6568 (6377) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Warrior deals 3200 (14436) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Warrior deals 18245 (20573) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 14937 (14502) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Warrior deals 15251 (17197) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Warrior gives 0 (14939) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Warrior gives 0 (16639) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Not enough Stealth
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Shadow Strike deals 2622 (2546) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:14] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 10645 (10335) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 304 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 8686 (8433) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 289 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Elven Ferocity deals 20600 (20000) Arcane Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 295 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 9812 (9526) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Warrior gives 0 (14628) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Not enough Stealth [4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Not enough Stealth
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Shadow Strike deals 2523 (2449) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Not enough Stealth
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Warrior deals 3566 (16084) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 20830 (20224) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 279 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 17535 (17025) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 291 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 23155 (22480) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 284 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 25274 (24538) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 300 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 618 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Lantern of Revelation deals 4090 (4641) Radiant Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Lantern of Revelation deals 4090 (4641) Radiant Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Lantern of Revelation deals 4090 (4641) Radiant Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Lantern of Revelation deals 5244 (4641) Radiant Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 28662 (25365) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 325 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 678 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 29764 (26340) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 286 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 678 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 298 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Shadow Strike deals 4743 (4197) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 678 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Your Song of Life gives 1782 Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:15] [Combat (Self)] Warrior deals 14257 (16076) Physical Damage to you with Stab.
& it keeps going like that. Then I mix it up some more heres part 2 of testing from same session.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Gloaming Cut deals 19755 (18292) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 317 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 486 (463) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 507 (470) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 512 (488) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry deals 5709 (5286) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Oppressive Darkness deals 292 Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 509 (471) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 234 (223) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 405 (375) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 394 (375) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry deals 3436 (3181) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 399 (369) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 223 (212) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 395 (366) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 1212 (1122) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 401 (382) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 1199 (1110) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 409 (378) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Bleed deals 759 (703) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 228 (217) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 684 (633) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 440 (408) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Bleed deals 1724 (1596) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 663 (648) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 636 (589) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 228 (217) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 651 (636) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 732 (678) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 229 (212) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 750 (732) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 650 (602) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 235 (224) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 682 (631) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 244 (226) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Path of the Blade deals 410 (390) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Health Steal gives 698 (682) Hit Points to you.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Hit deals 1285 (1189) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Path of the Blade deals 241 (223) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Duelist's Flurry Bleed deals 1724 (1596) Physical Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
[4/14 20:16] [Combat (Self)] Your Aspect of Flames deals 648 (600) Fire Damage to Warrior.
I die pretty often too unless I use bait n switch, shadowstrike, etc which I don't like to do as I want to dps not play hide n seek. Its sad my old set I can do more dmg but die even quicker. lol
Lastly THE new OP class is pally & ? but not TR
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What you folk forget is that Storm Spell is utilized to be a useful spell since most of things that make a CW are quite ineffective. I'll remind you that Storm Spell has been already nerfed to proc only on a Critical Hit, but it's not a 100% chance, it's 30% chance.
To play a CW you really need to understand MANY factors revolving around the mathematics and whatnot in order to squeeze the best possible outcome. When that outcome isn't effective a certain alternative route has to be taken. In case of CW, the alternative route is Damage the masses. CW doesn't have the biggest single-target damage, CW's outshined by a SW and TR easily in dungeons such as elol and such. Storm Spell's ineffective on a single target due to a relative low proc.
Storm Spell is effective in masses which is exactly where the CW shines upon, however those masses need to be dragged to a specific less than 20ft ground such as Icy Terrain, which btw does the lowest damage out of all CW AOE spells.
Since the Control was nerfed in MOD3 > MOD4 to satisfy the PvP clients QQ, it affected the PvE player-base as well. That's why the Control Wizards are going for DPS due to being without many options and what one CW was supossed to do back in the days, now you need 3 CW in the party for the job of one.
You obviously don't play a CW, you just want to have more DPS as a GWF :rolleyes: which is quite obvious. When you learn how to use Come and Get it, for instance, instead of Frontline Surge, perhaps you might become more party-friendly and stop bashing on already super-nerfed CW skills which people use adequately.
All of the CW CC is extremely inefficient without having at least 3 CWs in the party, and you want Storm Spell to be nerfed again for your own pleasure, instead that developers do something more constructive such as - provide alternative ways to play a CW for instance.
I'd like to see your pure control wizard and let's see just how satisfactory playing as such a class really is in ToS 2000. Until then, don't talk <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.