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pufy2010
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Hi guy's A.A here.
Terror enchantment : decrease power/def by 40% , root target
Vorpal enchantment: your critical strike decrease target damage resistance/damage by 2 %
Realy , Whenever you crit ,once a year thanks to rng and LOWER crit rate due curve , we get from vorpal Same crit severity and we reduce target damage/rez by 2 % ?
While Terror Permanently reduce power and def by 40%
2 %Whenever we crit or Permanent 40%..Hard Call.
FeadBack :Trans Vorpal 50% crit severity.
When you Crit , you recive a buff that makes your next Hit :
Crit chance 100% With 20% more crit Severity.
So when you land a Crit ,your next crit is 100% sure +20% severity (70% crit severity for One Crit)
VERY IMPORTANT (for balance) ADD Internal CD to the buff : 5 seconds. ( to avoid permanent crit chain )
Now thats a Nice Buff , and wont make vorpal USELESS.
Good Job on Terror.
But dont make 1 enchant Very good and rest trash.
If is to Hard to Make this effect + internal CD , At least Increase the Crit severity to 70%
May the Bacon Bless.
Terror enchantment : decrease power/def by 40% , root target
Vorpal enchantment: your critical strike decrease target damage resistance/damage by 2 %
Realy , Whenever you crit ,once a year thanks to rng and LOWER crit rate due curve , we get from vorpal Same crit severity and we reduce target damage/rez by 2 % ?
While Terror Permanently reduce power and def by 40%
2 %Whenever we crit or Permanent 40%..Hard Call.
FeadBack :Trans Vorpal 50% crit severity.
When you Crit , you recive a buff that makes your next Hit :
Crit chance 100% With 20% more crit Severity.
So when you land a Crit ,your next crit is 100% sure +20% severity (70% crit severity for One Crit)
VERY IMPORTANT (for balance) ADD Internal CD to the buff : 5 seconds. ( to avoid permanent crit chain )
Now thats a Nice Buff , and wont make vorpal USELESS.
Good Job on Terror.
But dont make 1 enchant Very good and rest trash.
If is to Hard to Make this effect + internal CD , At least Increase the Crit severity to 70%
May the Bacon Bless.
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vorpal useless? And need buff? No other weapon enchment did
i agree it needs a buffs of somekind. yours is too much tho
About your feedback ... I think you really do not want to change the vorpal the other enchant.
I see that many people are used to the combo vorpal and soul. and from what I see in the next mod will have some mixed builds.
Vorpal and the absurd high critical chance most of the classes got during mod3/-5.
It is already op and i think it needs a further adjustment dawn ,AS,terror too.
Vorpal was out of line forever.I mean 50% more damage?Make a comparison with the rest of the enchantments pre mod6.
Feytouched,bronzewood ,lightning?Call it.
terror is op and needs an adjustment dawn too.I mean the mod6 terror.
Low risk chance in mod6 is a misconception.I saw a CW level normally to 70 with 41% crit chance.With EOTS he will have 100%.
Trs continue to have 100% from stealth.These two classes if they jamp on you first you are toast.And what a coincidense both have 95% of the time equipped Vorpal.(except some dusted mod3 bilethorn TRs)
You are asking indirectly a buff to TR and to a CW.I think we have -and the game-already enough problems with these two.
I disagree with your proposition.
Both terror and vorpal need a severe adjustment dawn not a buff.
No need to quote.
Either works.
But 2 % damage rez./damage reduction , While Terror have 40% ??Not realy balanced.
it should be 5% at trascendent level...
however to think i have to spend 2 coalescents, 10 gmop and 2.5M refining points for that is just stupid
Terror does not increase your damage by 50%...
Vorpal is fine the way it is.
And i did not say terror increase damage by 50%.
terror reduce target power/DR by 40%.
did anyone already test how many it can stack? And how long debuff duration?
imagine TR in stealth use with 100% crit change spwan atwill and reduce 2% damage and armor every strike
don't mistaken me i am HR and uses vorpal too, i think transq must be give 60-70% crit sev is fine because it's RNG
but when there is still broken 100% crit change mekanic in TR and CW my answer isHELL NO
this is why i m saying give it crit chance bonus...classes with intrinsic 100% mechanic will not benefit from it like many others [ gf for example ]
so a terror is with 40% defense is likely going to be a 8% damage buff. the terror buff lasts for 5 seconds.
Vorpal is a 2% damage buff and lasts for 3 seconds
So, here you have an enchant dedicated to debuffing that is 4x as strong as the vorpal damage buff (which is 2%) but the duration is only 2 seconds longer then vorpal. terror is applied from any hit while vorpal is only from crits.
However, vorpal boosts your damage by considerably more then terror does so i really think that vorpal is just fine as it is. it would be nice though if the vorpal buff lasted 5 seconds as well so it was a bit easier to take advantage of and perhaps had the duration on the damage reduction buff last longer then 3 seconds as well
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Yes, and Vorpal makes you deal additional 50% damage plus debuffs foes.
You only compared the debuffs of terror and vorpal, when the main advantage of vorpal is not it's debuff.
+1 agree about this +2.5% crit change at pure and +5% crit change at tranq would be fine not become OP
Terror debuff doesn't stack and has to be refreshed every now and then.
I admit that to me the Trance Terror seems to overdo it, but Mod ->5 Terror is OK. Compare to the stacking debuff + additional Damage on Plague Fire etc.
But nerfing the powerful Weapon Enchantments doesn't seem right, especially not when you consider how much effort and/or often money you have to pour into getting them up there. PTerr = hundreds of Grimak runs (or AH buys, sure) and 7 Coal Wards. For the money you'd have to spend spend for the Wards alone, you can almost get the Hero of the North pack - and with it Brilliant energy Enchants for all of your chars.
...so IMHO, yes, buff the weaker enchants to viability. No, do not nerf the more powerful ones.
Like the old HR feat? Yeah, that'd be nice. But open to borderline exploitation ("air-slashing").
...but that's only looking at your personal damage. The one point is, however, that everyone in the party is going to get that debuff. The other point is that currently the monsters' DR caps at 24% (Endbosses!!!), while it'll go up quite a few notches in Mod 6. Which will then massively increase the value of DefDebuff...
Crit chance is probably what you meant?
Don't do silly things like bring MATH into this argument!
A flat x% debuff isn't the same a x% debuff to power/defense. But when you consider the +50% crit severity increase on Vorpal, it's just TOO good, which is why the additional ranks provide a bonus which is just ok. Take together, the updates to Vorpal aren't as stellar as some of the other enchantments, but that's fine. It's sort of like nerfing Vorpal without affecting existing Vorpal users.
Some pvp classes = terror.
Some pve classes = ok with terror/vorp or plague fire.
Terror really is a top choice now overall in all circumstances for most classes, other then probably cw and tr though (dc is a litte screwed, as they cant do crits as much anymore and vorp was the only thing that allowed them to increase healing) mine used a GPF anyways though.
My problem is I play them all and I only have enough to get one of these to pure to start with and have to decide. Since vorp is good for my cw and dc still. Then Ill do a terror when I can.
or vice versa, cant decide. hard to.
If vorpal would work like this it would be good but atm it works a lot better my average damage in pk atm with p vorpal is ~6-7m while with perfect lightning is 3-4m max so it dose improve my damage a lot u need to take in your math buffs ,debuffs,arp,power since vorpal is only enchant on which this multipliers works
Transcendent Terror enchantments debuff PvP opponents Power and Defense by 40%. So, let's say you're fighting someone with 15,000 Power and 6,000 Defense. After the Transcendent Terror debuff is applied their power will drop to 9,000 and Defense will drop to 3,600. With the new stat curves at 400 points = 1%, their damage output will drop by (1 - 1.225/1.375) = 10.9%. Their damage resistance will drop from 15% to 9%. So, you'll do about (.91/.85) = 7% more damage to them...but that's assuming you have no armor penetration. If your Armor Penetration is above 15% (and whose won't be?) then the Defense debuff won't make any difference at all and you'll do the same damage to them with and without the debuff.
So, for PvP, the Transcendent Terror enchantment isn't all that great. It just drops opponents damage output ~11% (slightly more or less depending on their power) and has basically no effect on how much damage you will do to them.
For PvE it's a little more murky. Last time I tested the Transcendent Terror it it just did a flat 4% debuff on enemies. That's it. Hardly overpowered. They may have fixed it since then, but even then I doubt it would be over 6% (lesser/normal/greater/perfect give 1/2/3/4% respectively, it would just make sense for Pure/Transcendent to do 5/6% debuff). That's hardly overpowered.
People don't understand the Vorpal much better. I'm a CW. I have base crit severity of 75%. I have an Erinyes that gives 10% more, and a boon that gives 10% more for a total of 95%. Also, about 80% of my damage comes from critical hits. So adding a Perfect Vorpal grants me (2.45/1.95-1)*.8 = 20% damage increase. Not 50%. It's good. In fact, it's the best choice for me given how much of my damage comes from crits. But it is not so far and away good that I'm not considering other options for Mod 6. The boosts to Feytouched and Lightning and the debuffs from Terror and Plague Fire make them at least competitive.
Vorpal get a lesser buff when transcend, so, it will already become less efficient.
Even "burst damage-based" builds will now benefits from something else than the vorpal.
A nerf can easily make it useless.
Also, complete nerf is not often the good solution. It is time for the Devs to buff more often than they nerf.
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