First of all game need serious game security stuff. then we can talk about weak/strong classes.. even now I actually quit domination fight.. Enough of this bull****.. Since when GWF have stealh??? Guy with big sword dissapear and apear again. enemy team have no CW. but from no ****ing idea how I get in effect of entangling force..
with 1 swing GWF jumped on wall.. I don't need record.. enough to log in and parcipate in domination fights. and u wil see even how uncomon geared player doing total non logic dps. and nonstop respawning in same place.. I took down 99% of his Hp bag. he with full HP again. I take him down again. bang again he with full HP. other party members hitted him. same stuff..
First need security against so called tough guys. then balance game...
p.s stongest class is the one with illegal exploits.. trust me. even newbie warlock with uncomon gear set hit harder than other classes or have immortality like DC.
[...] the unfathomable decision to gate off RP was a DISASTER, early buyers of RP made out like bandits, while everyone else struggled to catch up. It was a terrible decision, the worst they did in the entire history of this game (that includes the CWARD debacle last june as well)
[...]
BoA for RP from Dragon's Hoard was the first time C did something really painful to the bot-runners. They did that somewhat late, but it did work, "New Sharandar Char Wash" went all but silent immediately afterwards...
I think you are mistaken.
I pvp since per-mod1 and gwfs almost never 'disappeared', except if i am not mistaken, for a avalanche of steel bug when using that daily.
Ghem, that GWF atacked one of my team members. Thats ok. bumb he invisibble. My HP decreasing, and he apear only to land last finishing blow. No rogue where arround.. (even its rare thing)
Hp going back to full is not the gwf, but devoted cleric gift of faith making the party immortal.
I seen immortal rangers, I seen immortal CWs in last 15 days. All 15 days i where focused on domination, GG pvp and icewind dalte.. In icewind dale I have never seen immortal CW. But in domination where strange stuffs happens.
Also I been in party where rogue without stealth run to fight 1 vs5. And non of enemy team where able took him down.. 35 kills 0 death ratio.. Good game?? Nahh. His Hp fall down, when reach 5% like rocket rise back to 100%. We had no DC, neither Temp SW.
Until They fix it, all you can do is burst the DC down hard and fast so be cannot have gift of faith up. Most likely the gwf got a cleric in his team, consistently keeping gift of faith up.
With DC i have almost no problems. well only uber dps raining. Like uncomon gear set having DC kill u with 2 hits...
Also during last 15 days of domination fights marathon. I seen even better "features". How u like, enemy team had 1 CW. And he manage to use superb combo. Entangling force + ice dagger. first combo i survive, then he instantly repeated. And I where lifted in air and shamed with ice dagger 4 times in row. DC in my team healed me at that time so I could stay alive for this dual hit combo.
I lifted that CW in air with my Sw's harrowstorm. But funny is that while he where in middle or air he lifted me to air too.. No other CW or SW where in enemy team..
For fun I decide to check what kind tools you can find via google to add extra "features" for pvp. And there are enough of them, never ending stamina, AP instant regen.
It's ok if I lose, its Ok if I really baddly lose, its Ok if I extreme badlly lose. Hell I been in fights where I alone fight against enemy team while my team stay in safe zone or leave fight.. All where normal.
But hell I will not spent time or team up with cheaters and players who abuse game glitches/bugs on purpose.. Not my style.
And pando. I don't call myself pro pvp, but hell I am not green in fights either.
...until you meet a 2-DC premade-class team, in which case all you can do without coordinated, multiple executioners is basically just stand on the campfire and hope the match ends quick, and then pray they don't queue for the next match, or at least have the decency to stop trolling and break up the team.
What happens when both teams are the 2-DC teams? An hour and half of the most stupid PvP match ever.
God, if only the devs would listen to me and buff up the SWs as direct counters to DCs...
You faced team with 2 DC. Thats uggly. I where in domination which I could call worst case sceneario.
Where enemy team had 4 DC +1 TR
Our team
me as SW,
scarry GWF who afraid jump down and fight.
GF who most of time spent in safe zone.
CW who still live by old mod 4 days and think that he can solo all domination...
And TR who usually runned away from fight...
I only regret that I didn't record video of that domination fight.
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dragoness10Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 780Arc User
edited March 2015
I'm not voting. It's not the class itself. Different people suit different classes. Besides if you have more than one character then just play the class that seems to work for you and your play style best. Everybody's got a place here.
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I don't PvP, but based on my knowledge of all classes, I would say it is Scourge Warlock easily. I have even heard many other PvPers talk about how weak the SW is in PvP.
And I can't believe how many people rated TR as the weakest in PvP - there was so much uproar here about how the TR was way too OP in PvP. What the heck happened? This makes no sense at all.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!" pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all." looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
obviously TR troll'd as they are so far out of the realm when it comes to equality in pvp, i have watched three TR's run around in gg an wipe out everyone, same as a dc and hr as for the rest they are a pretty close resemblance of balance one on one. But i am sure soon with the rumor of cw not being able to control anything in mod 6 the class will become a bottom feeder. Guess we will see.
Well, if the TR is still strong in PvP, anyone who voted them as "weakest" in PvP in this poll is seriously out of touch with the game/PvP . . .
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!" pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all." looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Voted for SW of course, followed by GWF and the all time loser in this game GF.
Got all classes and i do play them all from time to time in PVP. I have my 2 favorite now of course. I try to get as little depressed as i can from this utterly broken PVP and do it mostly on my HR and TR. I have to say, i still oppose perma stealth and perma daze very much, my TR is a pure combat, nothing special.
My newest trick is that i only play the classes now, which are favored by the Devs and the others roll out from their garage only to get some "fresh" air.
Seeing the votes i can only second the other posters, it's incredible, how much TRs fear their OPness and troll here, but on the other hand it was also stated, that this way other people, who don't know them will see, how many trollish behavior play that class.
My in game ignore list is full of them. They think they are something special and above all others, simply cause Devs made that class perfect and the others, well to be polite, not at all. Some are mediocre, but yes there are sadly many loser classes.
As far as change goes, i have not much hope, we got only Domination, only 2 maps and with the current game design TR will be the best in all aspects in the future too. My dream of seeing fair balance has long faded away. Change won't happen cause Devs got the class numbers and stats in front of them and they know all, what we know, that the wast majority either plays TR only or as a very high ranked toon and they won't redesign the biggest paying community.
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B y the facts and numbers Gf is the worst class in pvp right now.Two toons in top 10 pages.That is 2 in 240.
Les than 0.5%.Both of them are of top pvp guilds.That means that actually the situation is far worst.
With minimum damage,lack of reliable CC and anti CC ,piercing damage,and defensive stats stack in mod3,while DPS classes have increased their DPS by 200-300% it is no wonder.
Gf is in far worst position than SW.
Most Gfs that were in top 20 pages are in pages 80-120 now.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!" pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all." looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
In my opinion many TRs "troll" this poll because they think it's another QQ thread whichs tries to point out that TR in its current state is OP... they simple try to strike back, my opinion.
I voted for TR too cause it's the worst class in terms of balance issues.
Again, the word "worst" was never used in the poll. The poll is only about the "weakest" class in PvP. Nothing more. The text in the OP refers only to "worst" as meaning the weakest. It is a synonym of sorts.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!" pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all." looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
I think many of those votes for rogue were by forum lurkers who chose "worst" out of your "worst/weakest" word pairing. I play a PVE rogue and even I am well aware that TR are STILL massively broken in PVP (apparently making them the worst for quite a few people).
Campaign - Trail of the Imaskarcana (NWS-DMFG77QOF)
Result of Poll:
1 in 4 forum lurkers may be a troll
.. or functionally illiterate. Not being insulting or anything, but worst/weakest and then actual poll Q says only weakest, it is clear cut in the intention of what is being asked.
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I hope they won't listen to you kweassa, there's a reason why they banned your other forum account.
Oh, man. That's who I'm arguing with... Never mind, then.
Yeah it is. That pitiful WK pug, you really shouldn't waste your time on him, literally a walking Jester.
fitting nick
BoA for RP from Dragon's Hoard was the first time C did something really painful to the bot-runners. They did that somewhat late, but it did work, "New Sharandar Char Wash" went all but silent immediately afterwards...
well for the ,weakest class in PvP? this is a completely another question lol ,
I seen immortal rangers, I seen immortal CWs in last 15 days. All 15 days i where focused on domination, GG pvp and icewind dalte.. In icewind dale I have never seen immortal CW. But in domination where strange stuffs happens.
Also I been in party where rogue without stealth run to fight 1 vs5. And non of enemy team where able took him down.. 35 kills 0 death ratio.. Good game?? Nahh. His Hp fall down, when reach 5% like rocket rise back to 100%. We had no DC, neither Temp SW.
With DC i have almost no problems. well only uber dps raining. Like uncomon gear set having DC kill u with 2 hits...
Also during last 15 days of domination fights marathon. I seen even better "features". How u like, enemy team had 1 CW. And he manage to use superb combo. Entangling force + ice dagger. first combo i survive, then he instantly repeated. And I where lifted in air and shamed with ice dagger 4 times in row. DC in my team healed me at that time so I could stay alive for this dual hit combo.
I lifted that CW in air with my Sw's harrowstorm. But funny is that while he where in middle or air he lifted me to air too.. No other CW or SW where in enemy team..
For fun I decide to check what kind tools you can find via google to add extra "features" for pvp. And there are enough of them, never ending stamina, AP instant regen.
It's ok if I lose, its Ok if I really baddly lose, its Ok if I extreme badlly lose. Hell I been in fights where I alone fight against enemy team while my team stay in safe zone or leave fight.. All where normal.
But hell I will not spent time or team up with cheaters and players who abuse game glitches/bugs on purpose.. Not my style.
And pando. I don't call myself pro pvp, but hell I am not green in fights either.
You faced team with 2 DC. Thats uggly. I where in domination which I could call worst case sceneario.
Where enemy team had 4 DC +1 TR
Our team
me as SW,
scarry GWF who afraid jump down and fight.
GF who most of time spent in safe zone.
CW who still live by old mod 4 days and think that he can solo all domination...
And TR who usually runned away from fight...
I only regret that I didn't record video of that domination fight.
“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.
==================================================
No -no -no they really need a new encounter ultamte executioner (range 500ft) w/o sound effect
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
And I can't believe how many people rated TR as the weakest in PvP - there was so much uproar here about how the TR was way too OP in PvP. What the heck happened? This makes no sense at all.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Well, if the TR is still strong in PvP, anyone who voted them as "weakest" in PvP in this poll is seriously out of touch with the game/PvP . . .
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Got all classes and i do play them all from time to time in PVP. I have my 2 favorite now of course. I try to get as little depressed as i can from this utterly broken PVP and do it mostly on my HR and TR. I have to say, i still oppose perma stealth and perma daze very much, my TR is a pure combat, nothing special.
My newest trick is that i only play the classes now, which are favored by the Devs and the others roll out from their garage only to get some "fresh" air.
Seeing the votes i can only second the other posters, it's incredible, how much TRs fear their OPness and troll here, but on the other hand it was also stated, that this way other people, who don't know them will see, how many trollish behavior play that class.
My in game ignore list is full of them. They think they are something special and above all others, simply cause Devs made that class perfect and the others, well to be polite, not at all. Some are mediocre, but yes there are sadly many loser classes.
As far as change goes, i have not much hope, we got only Domination, only 2 maps and with the current game design TR will be the best in all aspects in the future too. My dream of seeing fair balance has long faded away. Change won't happen cause Devs got the class numbers and stats in front of them and they know all, what we know, that the wast majority either plays TR only or as a very high ranked toon and they won't redesign the biggest paying community.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Les than 0.5%.Both of them are of top pvp guilds.That means that actually the situation is far worst.
With minimum damage,lack of reliable CC and anti CC ,piercing damage,and defensive stats stack in mod3,while DPS classes have increased their DPS by 200-300% it is no wonder.
Gf is in far worst position than SW.
Most Gfs that were in top 20 pages are in pages 80-120 now.
2) Hunter Ranger
3) Devoted Cleric
4) Control Wizards
5) Guardian Fighter
6) Great Weapon Fighter
7) Scourge Warlock
The poll title says "weakest class." The word "worst" in the text under the poll is to add effect - a synonym.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Again, the word "worst" was never used in the poll. The poll is only about the "weakest" class in PvP. Nothing more. The text in the OP refers only to "worst" as meaning the weakest. It is a synonym of sorts.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Sopi SW Youtube channel pvp brickabrack
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100 votes.
1 in 4 was a vote for rogue.
Of the remaining votes:
54% for Warlock.
24% for GWF
Conclusion:
1 in 4 forum lurkers may be a troll
Warlock is seen as the weakest pvp class followed by GWF.
30 Helens agree.
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ahahahaha nwo community fail.
.. or functionally illiterate. Not being insulting or anything, but worst/weakest and then actual poll Q says only weakest, it is clear cut in the intention of what is being asked.
Sopi SW Youtube channel pvp brickabrack
Well, there's quite a span between "not-OPness" and "weakest class"...