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Crushing Root :Should work on Range Stance only? (avoid perma daze) Poll
pufy2010
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Hi Guy's A.A here.
Today we talk about : Crushing Roots :HR class feature.
HR can now properly Daze you , and it's very good Because HR was missing encounters that daze (The only daze skill we had is a Daily : Disruptive Shot)
Thanks to : Crushing roots : You'r Weak roots stuns target for 0.5 seconds And Strong roots for 1 second.
VS player at max level : weak root daze last 1 second , and Strong Root up to 3 seconds.
The Feature is Great , but it may cause unbalance.
Why ? Because we have 2 Stances ( Ranged and Melle)
That means More Roots ( double the effect, daze.)
Wich leads to Permanent Daze.
Is good that we can CC properly with daze. (we miss cc skills)
But because we have 2 stances (ranged and melle) we can convert this daze into perma Daze)
My feedback is : Crushing Roots may work Only on Ranged Stance.
The feature is gReat , 3 second daze will be a good improvment to HR that already lacks good CC skills.
But it should work only on ranged Stance , and not Melle stance , just to prevent perma daze and unbalance.
So i vote yes for : Crushing Root :Should work on Range Stance only.
May the Bacon Bless
Today we talk about : Crushing Roots :HR class feature.
HR can now properly Daze you , and it's very good Because HR was missing encounters that daze (The only daze skill we had is a Daily : Disruptive Shot)
Thanks to : Crushing roots : You'r Weak roots stuns target for 0.5 seconds And Strong roots for 1 second.
VS player at max level : weak root daze last 1 second , and Strong Root up to 3 seconds.
The Feature is Great , but it may cause unbalance.
Why ? Because we have 2 Stances ( Ranged and Melle)
That means More Roots ( double the effect, daze.)
Wich leads to Permanent Daze.
Is good that we can CC properly with daze. (we miss cc skills)
But because we have 2 stances (ranged and melle) we can convert this daze into perma Daze)
My feedback is : Crushing Roots may work Only on Ranged Stance.
The feature is gReat , 3 second daze will be a good improvment to HR that already lacks good CC skills.
But it should work only on ranged Stance , and not Melle stance , just to prevent perma daze and unbalance.
So i vote yes for : Crushing Root :Should work on Range Stance only.
May the Bacon Bless
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HR don't have that strong of a survivability anymore with the regen and lifesteal changes.
Trapper HR are PvP gods in Mod 6. The best survivability is killing everything before it can hit you. OP has a good suggestion. I'm wondering if it would fix the double proc bug
Just make a thread saying you want a nerf for this or that reason. Puss
since its harder to apply.
Guardian Fighter main. I will never switch to Paladin even if we're a dying breed. GF for ever!
Main alts: Great Weapon Fighter, Control Wizard.
HR is one of my mains ,but if i see an issue ,and i can offer feedback ,then i will do it.
You think i dont love the fact i can Perma daze now ? Trust me ,is almoust as good as BACON.
But im fair ,and i dont like that other class stand 0 chances bcs perma daze strikes.
My feedback remains : keep daze for Range stance ,but not for Melle stance .
A very lovely update for HR ,but in balance range.
May the Bacon Bless.
Have you tried the perma daze rotation of the HR in preview? If not go try it it's just as stupid as the TR daze rotation.
he is Just stuck on :Oh a nerf thread, oh a hate thread , oh unfair!
May the bacon Bless you , my lil frustrated Henry , thank you for that cheap hate u offer.
My Thread is far from a hate /nerf thread
Why ?My thread follows 3 easy steps :
Find a relevant subject
Debate around it , find all scenarios ,effects ,offer relevant info , test bazed .
Offer Feedback and Constructive /Necessary Criticism ( who , why ,how why affects who , how to fix why ,so who (lol).
For me a Nerf Thread is just a hate thread that have little to say but personal frustration towards something , without even try find a solution , and offer something positive in return , just blatant hate.
And Hmm , Try logg preview more then 5 seconds in ICE and test pvp .
Then try offer relevant informations.
Special thanks to , Citizen Dwarf (Sn CW ) PapaBigN LT, Minerva , Beast ,Erik(Cupcake) , Ф Ghôst Ф , Zeref,Hussbro and many others that actualy Helped Me test and gather precious info Pve/PVP (ice)
I never encourage bugs/OP/broken class even if is my main or not.
So if i can offer a feedback and constructive toughts , that may improve gameplay ,why not.
may the Bacon Bless.
Srly this feature class is just what we needed. I mean have you ever seen skillful Infiltrator, steel defence or even first strike?
Personally i think that crushing root will only balance things a bit. Don't tell me you never saw a (for example) Trickster Rogue 1-hit everything while your GS is a way higher.
At least the TR dazes need you to be in melee range and at risk of blowing stealth to continue the rotation, as well as all daze attempts can be dodged.
...did they fix the undodgeable TR roots in the preview? If not, good luck everyone, this time against a lengthy daze combo that's fired off from 80' away which you have no way of avoiding.
As always your a joke mirrorballs, keep telling gwf gf and sw to dodge as in y our earlier posts lol.
A Tr comming talking about risk and cc after module 5 is a good proof how utterly far from reality you are and always been.
No class should be able to chain cc others have 1 shot ablitys ignore defence fight while invisible in pvp -yea tr got it all.
All classes should have cc break and immunity frame after being cced. Any form of chain cc is only destroying what pvp stands for and thats being able to play your character, not being locked down and killed without a chanse to fight back.
But a Tr with extream deflect that reduce cc and the ablity to ignore cc with a cc break and then 1 shot from stealth that complains about other classes ccs is rich very rich.....
I didn't realize the game had only 3 classes. Wow. What revelation.
Did you make the same complaints against the GWF during mod2 when they were chain-proning in a series of FSL-TD-IDS for around 7 seconds straight in a CC that couldn't be broken free from? Hey, don't get me wrong. Chain CCs are bad. OK. Gotcha. I just hate this little thing called 'double standard'.
This part, I actually agree. The funny thing is, that's the reason why I at least made the effort to get myself Oghma's for myself since I'm not a MI TR with their 15sec CD ITC spamming. It's the closest thing you can get to a free CC breaker for all classes.
OFC, it's definately not like ITC. Only every 2 minutes, so it must be used sparingly, and no where near how DEUS EX MACHINA ITC is. But it still provides a lot of relief in many situations. So I made the effort.
Did you make the same effort? No of course not. Why would anyone ever have to give up their favorite BiS artifact when they can simply do nothing about it and complain on the forums, right?
Wow. Is that something like a GWF that's tough as a Sentinel with straight-up damage buffs like a Destroyer and passive bonuses to CA and movement speed like the Instigator? Where can I get one of those! A TR that has 63 heroic feat points!!
(ps) Who's complaining? LOL It's not like I've not survived through undodgeable constricting arrows and grasping roots that rubberband you everywhere during mod2. So I'm not complaining.
But like I said, marnival, since you hate what us Scoundrels can do from melee distance, I definitely guarantee you'll be complaining when you get the same thing from 80 feet away.
Besides, "complaining" is something you seem to specialize in, not me. I remember you and your cussing and swearing and all those not nice things you've managed to PM me for about 10 minutes straight when I've PWND your HR with a meager, weak, "not PvP worthy" Whisperknife TR. I mean, I really suck when compared to the real premades with real TR builds so how did that ever happen? Oh yeah. That's right. Because we're all the same OP with 63 heroic feat points to use.
But don't worry. When you start using the same HR bullcrap against me and kill me all the time, I promise not to degrade you and your family with 10 minutes straight "complaining" like you've "complained" to me. I'm actually a very laid-back person, you know.
Yep you show how layed back you are with your 100ds of irrelevant trying to sound good and almighty showing your absulute lack of knowledge about game mechanics over and over. You been corrected so many times people start laugh at your comments as soon as they see them. A good example is when you told gwf sw and gf l2p and dodge exe lol, but the list goes on.
Yep I did never liked cc chains never will....
The differance is that you can fire back at a hr or fire first even better and another player can handle that hr bit hard with and itc or in hide tr but you cant see the light because your obvisouly blind as a bat...
If you manage to pawn me (which i seriously daubt) whith a weak Tr am just another in the club that gets rolled over by a broken class that everybody else is sick and tired of but you just dont get it and will mostly stay the joke you are .....
All non Trs are but wait arent you another of those Trs that tells people Tr are just fine its a l2p issue, oh yes you are mkay move on...
do you aware that root feat effect half on player?
Do you aware that tenacity effect got buff?
Do you aware that HR need to choose to replace between lone wolf 15 % deflec change or aspect of the serpent 15-30% damage and 2.5-5% crit change?
do you aware that HR offhand base damage melee only 60% compare to mainhand base damage?
Do you aware that crit being nerf in next mod? And yet TR still got 100% crit change from stealth? With transq vorp imagine how broken TR will be
mod 6? The thread will be about OP TR
I just wanna tell non HR class that to use crussing root effect we need to give out something in return
Ok lets sum up the threads about Hr being Op mm 2 and both comes from Trs lets sum up the threads about broken Trs mmm 1000nds and all comes from non Trs even some from Trs.
Lets sum up KD ratio from leaderboard lets sum up the the number of Trs in each pvp match and lets sum up your conclution that Tr is fine and other classes need to l2p and see what we come up with,, yea your a troll Tr that need a reality check mkay..
Do you aware it's F-in UNDODGEABLE?
End of story. I win. Try justify "UNDODGEABLE" and you basically admit yourself in plain hypocrisy.
NOTHING in PvP should be UNDODGEABLE, UNMITIGATED and INEVITABLE.
It's not fair for SWs and GWFs that they have no way to escape from SE.
It's not fair for GFs and GWFs that TR attacks going through defenses
AND it's not fair for EVERYONE that they receive UNDODGEABLE attacks that root you and chain-daze.
Fine by me. Get rid of the UNDODGEABLE please.
GWF got unstopable so what the problem here?
every class got it's cheese except TR being OP and SW need more love in pvp
good morning all, trapper here.
do you really say that a skill set of undodgable uncounters which procs roots, tons of damage and now dazes without internal cooldown is balanced?
UNDODGABLE. you cant avoid them....and 4 of my 6 encounters are indeed undodgable....
play a trapper actually really requires little to no skill but all classes are heading here so maybe its not a problem.
And yet you claim all that cry about Tr class should l2p try to dodge somebody that hits from hide when you fight another hypocrite.
You play Tr have defended them for a hole module and come her and talk about FAIR and nothing should be UNMITIGATED when you have piercing and UNDODGEABLE when you have hide at that having the best cc breaking in the game with ITC your priceless in your shamelessness.
As long as the game stands as it is with this Tr nonsence and new cw redicules buffs dc endless healing I see no broken stuff with Hr daze but I rather see that things get balanced overall with ALOT less CCs and no piercing damage what so ever....