I'm not actually asking for people to nerf themselves.
I'm asking for a way to make the match more fun in the face of woefully imbalanced teams. Is spawncamping really "fun"? Honestly?
How would the portal idea be a nerf to anyone?
Spawn camping isn't fun.
I do agree a more clever method should be used.
As far as making friends with guilds, you can send me a tell in the game or private message on the forum and can go from there. You must be able to take constructive criticism. It's not there to put you down but to lift you up. Send a message on the forums with what toon you'd like to pvp with more.
P.S. Right when I hit lvl 60 on my toons, I do GG. I don't think about winning or losing, just there to grind the glory, get the daily done, get the grym coins...stock up to build up. After I feel happier with my stats etc...then I get a little more serious but only by a little.
At least you do get some grym coins for losing too and then you can do the dungeon after for more daily completion and more grym coins to trade for tokens for glory.
When you're at a lower gear score or not using the flavor of the month builds (which is more low gear score friendly) do NOT even think about winning just think about stacking on stuff that will eventually aid you.
If the competitive, "top" pvp guilds actually were competitive; they would of figured a way to split the guilds up over the 2 factions. So they could actually of had some competitive matches, but I didnt quite believe they really wanted competition over easy gyrm coins and pvp boon farming.
Plus IDK if those guilds are still active, maybe they bored themselves outta the game.
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There is no competition. One side had all the most powerful toons and then some of them switched, and all the sheep followed. Now the other side is where the first side once was. Most of them never wanted competition...ever.
I think the easiest solution is to get rid of the "align to a faction" requirement and just mix up the players onto either side. I don't care if people want to play with friends...you can't, some will end up on your team, some on the other team. This keeps it fresh, competitive and hopefully not lopsided.
There will be less rage overall when people are having fun in a competitive environment instead of just one side having marginal fun farming the other side at spawn camp.
There will be less rage overall when people are having fun in a competitive environment instead of just one side having marginal fun farming the other side at spawn camp.
I disagree with it in terms of gg. I think the regular domination should have 2 queues one for ranked premade v premade, and one solo. But doing this in GG would absolutely cause massive rage. You don't stop people from playing with their friends and guildies in an mmo and expect to stay in business.
I disagree with it in terms of gg. I think the regular domination should have 2 queues one for ranked premade v premade, and one solo. But doing this in GG would absolutely cause massive rage. You don't stop people from playing with their friends and guildies in an mmo and expect to stay in business.
Well it's all speculation on both our parts. I don't think it would be as rage-y as you make it out to be. Definitely don't think it would kill the game, as you imply, if GG became a mix-up.
For this particular situation it is a good idea. You guys think it's the whole game for some reason. Maybe i didn't specify it is only GG, 15 minutes.
To jumble up the players for GG is the simplest solution that will create a more even experience for all.:D
There is no reason to do premade as there is almost never 20v20 premade matches happening
It would also help the Queue to pop a lot more/faster.
I'm sure nothing will be done to GG though, on any aspect, /SARCASM so we will continue our super fun and exciting ROFLstomping 1 sided matches! /SARCASM
Just like it made for a great experience in Tiamat /10char
1. Tiamat is optional content for boon. (and everything else)
2. GG is required content for boon.
Tiamat (IMO) does not suffer from not being able to party up with my friends. I would not be able to fill an instance with all my friends, it would be a logistical nightmare.
I actually don't even really do it as there are better ways to get the stuff. But it's not because I can't do it with my friends, I would still take the easier path.
The tiamat debacle of not being able to party ranks up there with the NGE in terms of stupid design decisions. And I apologize to the dev's but there is no other word that can be used to describe how incredibly awful that decision was. You're proposal compounds it by doing it AGAIN.
The tiamat debacle of not being able to party ranks up there with the NGE in terms of stupid design decisions. And I apologize to the dev's but there is no other word that can be used to describe how incredibly awful that decision was. You're proposal compounds it by doing it AGAIN.
Tiamat could've used a queue option IMO, I am neutral on the "worst decision ever" opinion. I think when the population is low in that zone, lack of queue will be the biggest problem. Not, whether or not you can fill the queue with your friends or guildies.
This thread is supposed to be about GG though, and I really believe that mixing it up will be more beneficial in the long run than how it is now.
Tiamat could've used a queue option IMO, I am neutral on the "worst decision ever" opinion. I think when the population is low in that zone, lack of queue will be the biggest problem. Not, whether or not you can fill the queue with your friends or guildies.
This thread is supposed to be about GG though, and I really believe that mixing it up will be more beneficial in the long run than how it is now.
So you think doing a bad decision twice is a good idea? Your logic has completely lost me.
So you think doing a bad decision twice is a good idea? Your logic has completely lost me.
I don't think it is a bad decision. I don't know all the factors that went into making the decision to form a valid opinion whether it is a good or bad decision and as stated above, my opinion of it lies in the realm of neutrality.
The GG mix-up is a good decision
faster Queues, better fights, more boon points for all.
I don't think it is a bad decision. I don't know all the factors that went into making the decision to form a valid opinion whether it is a good or bad decision and as stated above, my opinion of it lies in the realm of neutrality.
The GG mix-up is a good decision
faster Queues, better fights, more boon points for all.
Well I have to completely disagree. I view it as a fundamentally wrong choice. I view it the same way that I find torturing kittens to be a fundamentally wrong choice. The scale maybe different. But both actions can never have a reason that permits them as acceptable.
Well I have to completely disagree. I view it as a fundamentally wrong choice. I view it the same way that I find torturing kittens to be a fundamentally wrong choice.
Amen. That's why its called a guild. You should do the same.
I have a guild. It's a PVE guild. It's not full of Rank 10's and Legendaries. In fact I really wonder if anyone in my guild has full Rank 10's and Legendaries. I really doubt it. I have no desire to join a "PVP guild" and even if I did, I wouldn't meet the entrance requirements anyway. My HR has full Rank 6's and a T2 set. Will be getting Rank 7's and blue artifacts soon enough.
I have a guild. It's a PVE guild. It's not full of Rank 10's and Legendaries. In fact I really wonder if anyone in my guild has full Rank 10's and Legendaries. I really doubt it. I have no desire to join a "PVP guild" and even if I did, I wouldn't meet the entrance requirements anyway. My HR has full Rank 6's and a T2 set. Will be getting Rank 7's and blue artifacts soon enough.
Jun 2013 join date, I would've assumed you would have at least rank 8-9 enchantments by now even if you didn't play much.
But to your point, I agree PVE is really hard to farm right now and I feel sorry for new players who will have to either pay up or go through the long process of getting enchantments and gear.
I don't like that people have severe power creep on gear. I don't like that the gear imbalance in PVP has grown so much due to the artifacts and (soon) rank 12 enchantments. I want new players to have a good chance at progressing in their gear to eventually compete in all aspects of the endgame.
Like I said, when the other "alternative" is buying up 100+ linus favors, it really isn't much of a choice for most people (even the rich ones).
What would it be 6600 coffers to get everything? You can get a coffer for about 1k AD atm so that would be 6,600,000 AD. Or at 500:1 13,200 zen. Which would be about 132 dollars. Yeah buying your way thru tiamat is a horrible idea.
Why? What does mixing-it-up do that is so "horribad"?
It is better to have a grossly unilateral war than a competitiive fun fight?
He just wants the PVP guilds to always win. "It's only fair" or something.
And yes, Tiamat is 100% optional. No one is forced to do Tiamat for boons or for any other reason. Don't want to do it? Buy the relics and/or buy the coffers. Too expensive for you? Tough noogies. It's either pay in time or pay in money. You can't have it both ways.
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Spawn camping isn't fun.
I do agree a more clever method should be used.
As far as making friends with guilds, you can send me a tell in the game or private message on the forum and can go from there. You must be able to take constructive criticism. It's not there to put you down but to lift you up. Send a message on the forums with what toon you'd like to pvp with more.
P.S. Right when I hit lvl 60 on my toons, I do GG. I don't think about winning or losing, just there to grind the glory, get the daily done, get the grym coins...stock up to build up. After I feel happier with my stats etc...then I get a little more serious but only by a little.
At least you do get some grym coins for losing too and then you can do the dungeon after for more daily completion and more grym coins to trade for tokens for glory.
When you're at a lower gear score or not using the flavor of the month builds (which is more low gear score friendly) do NOT even think about winning just think about stacking on stuff that will eventually aid you.
Posting your contact on the forums won't net you too much.
I'm sure you know the good PVP guilds by name right now. Look them up and start befriending them.
Could change your experience in GG PVP.
Amen. That's why its called a guild. You should do the same.
There is no competition. One side had all the most powerful toons and then some of them switched, and all the sheep followed. Now the other side is where the first side once was. Most of them never wanted competition...ever.
I think the easiest solution is to get rid of the "align to a faction" requirement and just mix up the players onto either side. I don't care if people want to play with friends...you can't, some will end up on your team, some on the other team. This keeps it fresh, competitive and hopefully not lopsided.
Here comes the part where they try and make Neverwinter (a Massively Multiplayer Online Game) into a singleplayer game
Tiamat is PvE, this is about GG
There will be less rage overall when people are having fun in a competitive environment instead of just one side having marginal fun farming the other side at spawn camp.
I disagree with it in terms of gg. I think the regular domination should have 2 queues one for ranked premade v premade, and one solo. But doing this in GG would absolutely cause massive rage. You don't stop people from playing with their friends and guildies in an mmo and expect to stay in business.
Well it's all speculation on both our parts. I don't think it would be as rage-y as you make it out to be. Definitely don't think it would kill the game, as you imply, if GG became a mix-up.
What a good idea for an MMO! /sarcasm
For this particular situation it is a good idea. You guys think it's the whole game for some reason. Maybe i didn't specify it is only GG, 15 minutes.
To jumble up the players for GG is the simplest solution that will create a more even experience for all.:D
There is no reason to do premade as there is almost never 20v20 premade matches happening
It would also help the Queue to pop a lot more/faster.
I'm sure nothing will be done to GG though, on any aspect, /SARCASM so we will continue our super fun and exciting ROFLstomping 1 sided matches! /SARCASM
Just like it made for a great experience in Tiamat /10char
Yup and the population isn't lower than ever after tiamat.
1. Tiamat is optional content for boon. (and everything else)
2. GG is required content for boon.
Tiamat (IMO) does not suffer from not being able to party up with my friends. I would not be able to fill an instance with all my friends, it would be a logistical nightmare.
I actually don't even really do it as there are better ways to get the stuff. But it's not because I can't do it with my friends, I would still take the easier path.
Tiamat could've used a queue option IMO, I am neutral on the "worst decision ever" opinion. I think when the population is low in that zone, lack of queue will be the biggest problem. Not, whether or not you can fill the queue with your friends or guildies.
This thread is supposed to be about GG though, and I really believe that mixing it up will be more beneficial in the long run than how it is now.
So you think doing a bad decision twice is a good idea? Your logic has completely lost me.
I don't think it is a bad decision. I don't know all the factors that went into making the decision to form a valid opinion whether it is a good or bad decision and as stated above, my opinion of it lies in the realm of neutrality.
The GG mix-up is a good decision
faster Queues, better fights, more boon points for all.
Well I have to completely disagree. I view it as a fundamentally wrong choice. I view it the same way that I find torturing kittens to be a fundamentally wrong choice. The scale maybe different. But both actions can never have a reason that permits them as acceptable.
I see who I am talking to now. Good day.;)
I have a guild. It's a PVE guild. It's not full of Rank 10's and Legendaries. In fact I really wonder if anyone in my guild has full Rank 10's and Legendaries. I really doubt it. I have no desire to join a "PVP guild" and even if I did, I wouldn't meet the entrance requirements anyway. My HR has full Rank 6's and a T2 set. Will be getting Rank 7's and blue artifacts soon enough.
Unless you are making a dumb suggestion of buying 100+ linus favors, Tiamat should be done more than a couple times for a PVE AND PVP boon.
A boon for PVP only yes.
Jun 2013 join date, I would've assumed you would have at least rank 8-9 enchantments by now even if you didn't play much.
But to your point, I agree PVE is really hard to farm right now and I feel sorry for new players who will have to either pay up or go through the long process of getting enchantments and gear.
I don't like that people have severe power creep on gear. I don't like that the gear imbalance in PVP has grown so much due to the artifacts and (soon) rank 12 enchantments. I want new players to have a good chance at progressing in their gear to eventually compete in all aspects of the endgame.
I haven't made any suggestions. it is optional content. The items can be more easily obtained through other means than playing Tiamat.
Yup.
Like I said, when the other "alternative" is buying up 100+ linus favors, it really isn't much of a choice for most people (even the rich ones).
If you want to discuss GG ideas, I am here for that
What would it be 6600 coffers to get everything? You can get a coffer for about 1k AD atm so that would be 6,600,000 AD. Or at 500:1 13,200 zen. Which would be about 132 dollars. Yeah buying your way thru tiamat is a horrible idea.
Try again.
But yes on to the topic! Forcing people to pug GG like you suggested is a horribad idea.
I suggest adding bridges and gateways on the map to prevent spawncamping as well as add more rewards to GG to incentive more players to participate.
Why? What does mixing-it-up do that is so "horribad"?
It is better to have a grossly unilateral war than a competitiive fun fight?
He just wants the PVP guilds to always win. "It's only fair" or something.
And yes, Tiamat is 100% optional. No one is forced to do Tiamat for boons or for any other reason. Don't want to do it? Buy the relics and/or buy the coffers. Too expensive for you? Tough noogies. It's either pay in time or pay in money. You can't have it both ways.