I write this as a point of fact and also in response to the many neverwinter players who rail against pvp in neverwinter because "there is no pvp in dnd".
D&D IS pvp, both in form and in function. Always was. The Dungeon Master is a player of the game regardless of his title. He IS NOT an environment. He is a PLAYER who's purpose is to play the role of antagonist in conflict against other players whos purpose is to play the roles of the protagonists.
Dungeons and Dragons its self evolved from a straight on PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER wargame known as Chainmail. D&D was essentially an expansion of Chainmail.
Ultimately, Dungeons and Dragons is simply sophisticated tabletop PVP.
You cannot remove pvp from DnD and still have it be DnD. Because sophisticated pvp (via the dm which neverwinter lacks) is the core defining element of Dungeons and Dragons.
So those who say they enjoy Neverwinter because "it is dnd" and not for the pvp, need to really think about what the game is they are playing.
Really Neverwinter should not be advertised as being based in dnd, it should be advertised as being based on forgetten realms. Because the pvp in NW is not sophisticated. It is not creative and requires very little creativity from the players. And the less pvp in neverwinter, the less like dungeons and dragons neverwinter becomes.
D&D is cooperative story telling with guidelines and randomization tossed in.
A pvp hater. If nothing else, this thread has certainly clarified who are the pvp haters.
You are absolutely correct; I have a robust loving appreciation of PVE and games that respond to PVE matters and PVE concerns and i, like many PVE minds are willing to pay for it and do not find fault or squeal and whine about paying for that which one appreciates.
All I can see in this thread is a lot of animosity and power posting. Since it is clear both sides will never agree, I'm going basically say "agree to disagree" here and close this down.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
Great Weapon Fighter: Because when is today not a good day to die?
PC and PS4 player. Proud Guildmaster for PS4 Team Fencebane. Rank 5 Officer for PC Team Fencebane. Visit us at http://fencebane.shivtr.com
Comments
D&D is cooperative story telling with guidelines and randomization tossed in.
The game you're thinking of is 'Hero Quest'
You are absolutely correct; I have a robust loving appreciation of PVE and games that respond to PVE matters and PVE concerns and i, like many PVE minds are willing to pay for it and do not find fault or squeal and whine about paying for that which one appreciates.
Great Weapon Fighter: Because when is today not a good day to die?
PC and PS4 player. Proud Guildmaster for PS4 Team Fencebane. Rank 5 Officer for PC Team Fencebane. Visit us at http://fencebane.shivtr.com