No, because obviously people are manipulating the AH. The prices of refinement items frustrate according to the will of the market manipulators. Take a look at the blue marks. A mark of power sold for 3-4k not long ago but now each one costs over 90k, which is almost as expensive as the epic greater mark. This is ridiculous considering every artifact requires a blue mark to goes to the next level, even as low as level 29. This also kills the refinement values of the excessive or junk green and blue artifacts since it costs a lot more to advance them to blue quality than just merely use refinement gems/runes/runestones to enchant the destination artifacts.
In the very least, Cryptic should at least sell the blue marks in the AD store at a fixed price of no more than 50k each. If they let this trend continues, no newbie will be able to even bring even the start artifact from green to blue quality.
If you have the hoard... it would take 31+ days STRAIGHT to farm to get epic gear+weap set+ belt+artis to legendary, Now take 5 hours play time a day *and this is 5 hours ONLY farming* as average > 744/5= 150 days at most ? ffs seriously?
"Hell no" should be an option. it is so mind numbing boringness, if you could at least put a full stack of refinement at a time. but not you have to feed 5 by ****ing 5 each time till your arm and fingers are tired and you get carpal tunnel syndrome.
bajornorbertMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 272Arc User
edited November 2014
No. This system is fine for refining enchantments, i actually find it better than the old system, BUT for artifacts and especially artifact gear it's very very bad.
We need a separate refining system for artifacts and artifact gear, because they need a lot more RP than enchantments, making it painful to level them up. Dragging multiple stacks of RP in the refinement window is time consuming, very boring and if you try to level an artifact with white pearls drives you crazy, will most likely result in wrist strain and destroys your mouse.
It would be fine if you allowed modding, since someone would probably make an auto-refine mod, which would at least allow you to leave it on while you sleep to do it's refining, since even with that it would take a long time, thanks to the 1-2 sec ICD, while the "Refine" button is inactive.
No. This system is fine for refining enchantments, i actually find it better than the old system, BUT for artifacts and especially artifact gear it's very very bad.
We need a separate refining system for artifacts and artifact gear, because they need a lot more RP than enchantments, making it painful to level them up. Dragging multiple stacks of RP in the refinement window is time consuming, very boring and if you try to level an artifact with white pearls drives you crazy, will most likely result in wrist strain and destroys your mouse.
It would be fine if you allowed modding, since someone would probably make an auto-refine mod, which would at least allow you to leave it on while you sleep to do it's refining, since even with that it would take a long time, thanks to the 1-2 sec ICD, while the "Refine" button is inactive.
Agreed, I think an artifact XP system probably would've worked far better from the start, but after so much RP has been put into them, how likely is this to change? It is highly unlikely to change because it could threaten the profit margin they already have on AD-RP but I believe another method could improve it as well.
Agreed, I think an artifact XP system probably would've worked far better from the start, but after so much RP has been put into them, how likely is this to change? It is highly unlikely to change because it could threaten the profit margin they already have on AD-RP but I believe another method could improve it as well.
AD-RP has no margin it is all profit, they just make the stuff out of code.
This is just greed.
Now at 20k rp/hr it will take approx. 1400 hrs. to grind with dragon's hoards the 28 or so million you need for all your artis. (I only average 15k or less after patch though)
That is 35 full 40hr work weeks.
Or if you buy the RP from PWE that is $4200 for all 7 to orange.
That is enough to pay my mortgage for a good part of the year.
This company has no respect for its playerbase if that is the kind of grind they expect people to go through or the amount of cash they expect us to pay.
Only 5 empty refine slots at a time does my head in for hours a day. Why not up that 5 to 100 XD
Fully agree!!! Why only 5 slots??? We should refine 4,6 M with 5 slots.... Terrible solution. Allow us put there one full stack, or increase number of slots...
5 slots was fine in the past, where was refined enchantment and artifacts (for artifacts is 5 slots a few also), BUT now is refining huge content, so allow us to refine more efficiently. Refine one item for 2 hours is not fun...
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In the very least, Cryptic should at least sell the blue marks in the AD store at a fixed price of no more than 50k each. If they let this trend continues, no newbie will be able to even bring even the start artifact from green to blue quality.
Truly an exquisite experience
I prefer the suggestion of having EXP level up all the artifacts that you are wearing.
We need a separate refining system for artifacts and artifact gear, because they need a lot more RP than enchantments, making it painful to level them up. Dragging multiple stacks of RP in the refinement window is time consuming, very boring and if you try to level an artifact with white pearls drives you crazy, will most likely result in wrist strain and destroys your mouse.
It would be fine if you allowed modding, since someone would probably make an auto-refine mod, which would at least allow you to leave it on while you sleep to do it's refining, since even with that it would take a long time, thanks to the 1-2 sec ICD, while the "Refine" button is inactive.
Agreed, I think an artifact XP system probably would've worked far better from the start, but after so much RP has been put into them, how likely is this to change? It is highly unlikely to change because it could threaten the profit margin they already have on AD-RP but I believe another method could improve it as well.
AD-RP has no margin it is all profit, they just make the stuff out of code.
This is just greed.
Now at 20k rp/hr it will take approx. 1400 hrs. to grind with dragon's hoards the 28 or so million you need for all your artis. (I only average 15k or less after patch though)
That is 35 full 40hr work weeks.
Or if you buy the RP from PWE that is $4200 for all 7 to orange.
That is enough to pay my mortgage for a good part of the year.
This company has no respect for its playerbase if that is the kind of grind they expect people to go through or the amount of cash they expect us to pay.
Fully agree!!! Why only 5 slots??? We should refine 4,6 M with 5 slots.... Terrible solution. Allow us put there one full stack, or increase number of slots...
5 slots was fine in the past, where was refined enchantment and artifacts (for artifacts is 5 slots a few also), BUT now is refining huge content, so allow us to refine more efficiently. Refine one item for 2 hours is not fun...
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