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Is there any way to see how many individual accounds have log on in recent times? Or a way to see those numbers from the games release until now?
I have searched a abit, but could not find anything. But i remember seeing such a graph once.
I have searched a abit, but could not find anything. But i remember seeing such a graph once.
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they posted a graph at the end of mod2 i believe, and it showed a huge in game population, but i think that that nuber dropped a lot, and then you should divide the result by at least 2 because of the free character slot. i think there are no more than 10k people playing
Considering there is NO public statistics your estimation is about as accurate as an eye test read from a mile away with the naked eye...
Let's not pull figures out of thin air.
Furthermore I believe you are referring to the "2 Million Accounts" announcement. It was not a claim of activity but simply saying 2M accounts were made. Accounts....not characters. The entire bit about characters is 100% irrelevant.
first of all, you are a community moderator i would ask you to be more polite and less rude
second, i based my estimate on the fact that there are a little less than 3k people who entered pvp since mod 4 was release, 30% of the in game population that entered at least once is a generous valuation.
It was not that announcement i was thinking about. There was a clear graph i specifically remember from beta until before mod2 or mod2 release. It showed the graph slowly but steadily rising.
That is a great way to check it, totally forgot to see how many entered pvp. I remember it been a lot more before the leaderboard reset. But i guess pvp is not the best indicator as well because people refuse to play it because of glyphs and HRs. But 30% dosent seem to off
you might me talking of this one
Filter by area (PE, Rothe Valley et al., all epic and regular dungeons, skirmishes, PvP areas, etc.) and sum up the number of players in that are.
You might have to filter down to instance number.
You still would miss the foundry fans, but it would give you an idea.
You would not be able to know about bots that own instances, about accounts created and banned after 3x yelling "vv vv vv. blablabla" and all that.
So, even if you get the number of avatars playing at the moment you would not know how many of them are not players are bots.
This is also the reason why the announcement last year (distribution of classes) is totally useless ... so many TR bots, you can not even start to count them.
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lol yes, you are right. don't know how i managed to turn pages into ppl xD
Also, I am a TR, but certainly not a bot. Bots don't post on forums.
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This isn't 81K players who play in a daily basis, we have 81K players who played once on MoD 4, and we also have to consider that maybe in the leaderboard there are several characters of one player, so it may be less than 81K players who played once on MoD 4.
Players... or characters? There is a big difference...
In my opinion, the awful set up of dragon dailies and how time consuming and tedious work you need to put in to open a skirmish, dungeon, artifact weapon and boons, have not made many happy and I think it was kind of a turn off. While the skirmish and dungeon are really great it might not of been enough. And that doesnt include the pvp gripes.
I am sure once the new changes are released, you will see alot of people on test and than many returning in the new mod.
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I would say this is from a perspective of someone who plays PvP. I would say only about 10% are in the ranking, the others have not ever played PvP since mod4.
All players that came new after the module and played with a char below level 60 a few matches and thus quit are not in the ranking, a lot of mid to low equipped players are not playing any PvP as they encountered they have no chance before Mod4. In our guild a lot of players never PvP and only about maybe 20% play, but only on 5 person guild groups and never alone. So if only 20% of the guild players play, a lot less non-guild will only play, so I would assume 10% of the whole population.
I'd say it's the opposite. The majority of players are pve only. a tiny minority (maybe 10%) are pvp only. and a sizable number do both, at least enough for the daily quest if not for pvp campaign progress. However each page is characters not players. Some people pvp with multiple characters (classes), some have separate pvp only alts.
If you look at that mod 2 flier, you see 400 years worth of exp has been gained but only 3 million character deaths in pvp? That's only 3k characters with bloodthirsty title. ie tiny tiny fraction of players pvp in any real meaningful manner.
i'd break it down 50% pve only, 40% pvp at least some amount and 10% pvp only. 50% of the players have pvp'd since mod 4, with 48k characters. even if we say each player only has 1 pvp character, that puts the pop around 96k total. Less (much less) if ppl have pvp'd with more than 1 character.
edit: note, i feel i'm being very generous with the 10% and 40% thing. the real numbers are probably much closer to 5% pvp and maybe 25% pvp sometimes. most players never pvp in mmo's.
not played a single pvp match since mod 4
Your percentages are off. PvP players are very vocal, so it may seem like they're a majority, but that is not so.
Take a look at this thread: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?705291-Do-you-PvP-PvE-Just-interested-on-the-player-base
If we would take those percentages as is, total genuine playerbase since the release of Module 4 would be 112434.
Between the end of mod 1 and the end of mod 3 I brought through 3-4 classes to the extent of thousands of matches, enough to get profound sets for each, cyrstal artifacts (multuple on some) and even max glory on each of the toons with no reason to purchase anything.
At the start of mod 4, im pretty much running GG only with maybe a odd dom match, multiple reasons, but the #1, is I just dont have time do run multiple dailies and dom match every day. The game is only about the stupid dailies to progress, since I cant finish the modules and I cant progress, I dont feel like I can dom match anymore.
They just totally screwed the playerbase in this last module, with too much of a grind.
From half an hour to an hour a day. I don't see how is that different from any other module.
Sure, people with severe altitis will think of it as too much, but it's their own fault, not Cryptic's.
I can run through every other module through with no more then 15 mins max a day, I could probably run through 2-3 or more alts through every other module through in the same time I do one alt for ToD, I just dont understand how you can say its the same...
What all the other modules allow you to do is be done with them at some point, with reasonable amount of grinding, ToD doesnt have that.. not even close.
I think you may be off with this. I have NEVER played PvP since before Mod 1 and yet I am in the leaderboard.
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Allow me to explain.
From a trader point of view there are some "rush hours" on server. In MMOs they are calling it "prime time". Usually those occur on week-ends. You zone in those hours and count the players in every public instance. Multiply it by aprox. 3 (because like 2/3 are in private instances) and you'll get the active population. Active population is like 1/5 - 1/6 of total population (after 1-2 years from launch).
Simple math - enjoy.
P.S. I'll do it for you and post the result after this week-end, if the topic is not shut down by then
Ok, I wasn't speaking about PvP v/s PvE players, the poll is telling us at least the 43% of the player base play PvP and/or PvE often, but I think that people who voted for "I play for PvE" could at least try PvP once, but yes, if those that said "I play for PvE" don't give a try on PvP even once a month then yes, the number of characters used at least once in MoD 4 should be near 110K.
But being more realistic, I think even some PvE guys would at least try PvP once in a month.
That was probably more true prior to mod 4.
Why should I? I have PVE gear and PVE feats and from what I understand, everyone in PVP is running around with 20k and glyphs. Why should I even try once a month? "Because it's fun"?
I don't believe you. Unless the accounts were a bunch of bots, or dual accounts. There are approximately 2500 pages where people pvp. I hardly think anyone would ignore 8k AD a day on their primary account which means at most you have 70k (50-55k to be more realistic) active players.
I was involved in game development myself for a while as a programmer about 7 years ago, enough to know the difference. The Giants of MMO are LOL, Lineage, Tera, WOW, GW2 & WildStar. Even korean MMO like Cabal Online and Aion held a much bigger population after their release for at least 2 years. The way cryptic is going with their sloppy development and imbalanced pvp material, I would be concerned.
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I don't know, to see how bad it is with your own eyes?, anyway, I just consider a small % of the PvE guys could play PvP once in a month, even considering the real number we have 110K characters used in MoD 4 of a total of more than 2 millions (we had 2 millions accounts on MoD 2).
And eldarth said he never went to PvP but he appear on the leaderboard, so it's not wrong to assume that we could have even less characters that played once MoD 4.
So if you wanna just ignore what I said about PvE ppl testing PvP, even if that doesn't happend it shows that a lot of ppl leave this game.