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Something needs to be done about TOD dailies
manzillaprime
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I like this game. I like to run dungeons and skirmishes. I do NOT like to do TOD dailies. In my opinion they are badly designed as they revolve around dragon timers. As has been noted numerous times in other posts, they way the last 2 boons are designed, the books are extremely rare drops and I am looking at needing 200 sigils and 200 cult secrets to buy the boons on EACH character I have. That amount of daily grinding is just not fun for this player, and I would imagine most other players. As it stands now, if I have 3 hours one night to play, I can be expected to spend well over 1.5 hours doing nothing but these TOD dailies.
It prevents me from doing the content I want to do - like running your content I enjoy - Shores of Tuern, Lair of Lostmauth, and any other dungeon I may want to do. Why do you seem intent on limiting the amount of time I have to play the content you designed for me to play?
Why not add cult secrets and sigils as rewards from the new skirmish and dungeon? That would allow an alternative method of obtaining these. Alternatively, please reduce the cost to buy the books by half. With a new module coming, I would like to be completely finished with this campaign so I can focus on new content.
Even 1 cult secret and 1 sigil from a successful LOL or SOT completion would be welcome.
Please - you are making me HATE dragons, when you are releasing more content about dragons.
It prevents me from doing the content I want to do - like running your content I enjoy - Shores of Tuern, Lair of Lostmauth, and any other dungeon I may want to do. Why do you seem intent on limiting the amount of time I have to play the content you designed for me to play?
Why not add cult secrets and sigils as rewards from the new skirmish and dungeon? That would allow an alternative method of obtaining these. Alternatively, please reduce the cost to buy the books by half. With a new module coming, I would like to be completely finished with this campaign so I can focus on new content.
Even 1 cult secret and 1 sigil from a successful LOL or SOT completion would be welcome.
Please - you are making me HATE dragons, when you are releasing more content about dragons.
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I would agree with that 100%.. this needs to happen right away. this weeks patch honestly, before they lose more of us.
I just cant do those dailies anymore, make it like IWD, once you unlock need for mead you can basically run 1 he and that and your done..
Why do they hate us?
Recent live stream stated they want to make things fun, ToD to me stands for tournament of depression.. seriously, who though to put this much grind and rng into this!
Indeed! LOL!
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
This is perfect, because it is so true. I am getting to the point of dreading logging in, knowing what misery is ahead of me if i want the boons, which I do. The 5th boon is really quite powerful, so I don't feel satisfied not having it.
Why can't the devs understand that the campaigns should be modeled after the Dread Ring. That remains to me, the only module/campaign with the right amount of grind/length
Tedium Of Dragons, Tired of Dailies, etc.. There's a lot of dislike out there for the insane grind. I think they hit more or less the right note with the Dread Ring dailies- there was a little RNG bonus (Eye Of Lathander), but nothing that was a real dealbreaker. Once you knew the layouts of the daily zones, you could blow through everything in a fairly non-frustrating twenty minutes- and it was actually viable to do so on more than one character.
They are capable of it, let's hope that they learn from the rather disastrous mod 4 campaign, which has taken all the fun out of the game for many folks.
And for newer characters or players, having to grind out those boons from all of the different areas at once would be insane to say the least. There is no way I would have time to build a new toon from scratch.
This change wouldn't help with the issue of the high cost of campaign tasks and tomes, but it would make the grind more palatable to players who are willing to do a little bit each day.
not just casual players i used to play this game for 3-4 hours a day before but so big grind needed to play new content (dungeon,skirmish) killed my will to play and i now play 3-4 hours in week or even less
I took 4 days off before logging back in.. and I did one daily, then logged off this morning.
I agree 100%. The Dread Ring was the perfect amount of grinding for boons: not too much, and not too easy. I hope the devs read this and use the DR model for future Campaign releases . . .
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Why can't they make it to where you unlock SoT then spend 1000 dragon coins and you get a book. Then you unlock LoL spend another 1000 dragon coins and get the last book and call it done. To me that would be doable than grinding for days. I too end up doing dailies and ignoring calls from people asking to run dungeons because of this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. I have many alts and keeping up with two is so tiring that I end up doing one from each every other day. I almost at the point of giving up on this game as it's no longer fun. Yeah yeah doom and gloom but come on, it's realistic and even tho it's negative, it's still feedback.
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ToD was literally killing a reawakened enthusiasm for this game until I stopped messing with and started leveling a new character (and another...and another). That new character experience was so fun I went and bought the Dragonborn pack. Yet the thought of returning to the ToD grind literally terrifies me. It needs to be looked at hard - I've actually enjoyed Heroic Encounters when I don't have the zone literally filled with people popping off dailies on the dragon and freezing my screen. But the way ToD and its dailies are structured sucks all the fun out of it.
So now that the griping is out of the way I have a suggestion:
Make Cult Secrets and Dragon Sigils:
- purchasable for Dragon Coins
- fairly common (65+%) drops for just participating in the HEs
--Cult Secrets drop from the first three
--Dragon Sigils drop from the last two
- add them to the chests in the Shores of Tuern skirmish (as has been suggested)
--Both at the same time in the normal chest
--Epic rewards more than normal
- add them to the chests in Lair of Lostmauth (as has been suggested)
--Both at the same time in the normal dungeon chest
--Epic rewards more than normal
--More from dungeon than from skirmish
And the last 2 boons are almost impossible for me because needing 200 sigils and secrets is hard enough but then I have to spend all of the ones I get on trying for my artifact weapon over and over. Drop rates need to be better and this campaign needs to be faster or have more ways of getting the rewards and currency needed. I like the idea but it will just take forever to get anywhere.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
same boat *grabs an oar*
If it were 2 dragons a day it wouldn't be so bad, but having to wait on 5 dragons is just painful. I basically spend most of it afk watching tv. Awesome engaging design guys.
Sorry for the caps but I am just sick and tired of people complaining about being "required" to wait to kill 5 dragons. You aren't.
LOL, yeah you are not, how long is that going to take you if you don't? Killing the dragons help you get the secrets and sigils you need. Seems like you are clueless in the actual process.
Don't mind him.
Anyway, due to the 4th and 5th boons being gated by RNG, people would need to do more than their fair share of dailies each day. The 4th and 5th boons cost around 140 pages, 200 sigils and 200 cult secrets as well as around 50k AD.
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