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vattara
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I had previously posted my predicament in the Bug Section
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?738011-Heros-Feasts-created-last-year-now-Bound-to-Character
and also created a support ticket.
PWE Support has encouraged me to create a discussion thread.
and so here we go.
I made many Heroe's and Grand Feast items last MidSummer event over several class characters. I finally stashed them in ONE character's Bank Account to save on space. At that time they were NOT bound to account or character. And then BLAM, on the first day of the 2014 MidSummer event they were now "Bound to Character".
PWE gave no notice of the intended item status change. In the past , they have announced changes in status as per Coalescent Ward, Lockbox Keys, Wererat and Blade Companion, Tarmalune Bars etc so at least players had the opportunity to make the best of an (bad imo) evolving situation.
If I had known beforehand of this item status change , I would have moved the Feasts back to the characters that crafted them.
I propose to PWE that they consider making the Feasts, Bound to Account. In that way, PWE could protect the economy, players would not be able to "play the auction house'' but players would still be able to use their legitimately crafted items for legitimate purposes.
If you have an opinion about this state of affairs, please speak up. ToS shouldn't mean SoL and I find Support's encouragement to start a discussion very hopeful
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?738011-Heros-Feasts-created-last-year-now-Bound-to-Character
and also created a support ticket.
PWE Support has encouraged me to create a discussion thread.
and so here we go.I made many Heroe's and Grand Feast items last MidSummer event over several class characters. I finally stashed them in ONE character's Bank Account to save on space. At that time they were NOT bound to account or character. And then BLAM, on the first day of the 2014 MidSummer event they were now "Bound to Character".
PWE gave no notice of the intended item status change. In the past , they have announced changes in status as per Coalescent Ward, Lockbox Keys, Wererat and Blade Companion, Tarmalune Bars etc so at least players had the opportunity to make the best of an (bad imo) evolving situation.
If I had known beforehand of this item status change , I would have moved the Feasts back to the characters that crafted them.
I propose to PWE that they consider making the Feasts, Bound to Account. In that way, PWE could protect the economy, players would not be able to "play the auction house'' but players would still be able to use their legitimately crafted items for legitimate purposes.
If you have an opinion about this state of affairs, please speak up. ToS shouldn't mean SoL and I find Support's encouragement to start a discussion very hopeful
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I have a ton of Epic gear I cannot salvage as the characters owning it are backlogged on refining rough AD. I cannot even put them in the Shared Bank or mail them to another character so they can salvage them. It is just one enormous PITA for the legitimate player and does absolutely nothing to combat Bots and illicit Farmers. BoA will do that just as effectively without causing harassment to the customer.
One of the daftest things is that some boxes and reward containers are BoA, but the contents are BoP to character. What is the point of that? It's really annoying if you collect a Reward from the claims agent and it BoPs to Character, or the contents do, and you realise you'd rather use it on a different character.
And making Tarmalune Coalescent Wards BoP to Account was just daft and drove the AD price up massively. The only way I know of for getting Trade Bars is opening Lockboxes with Enchanted Keys.
And the other level up boxes I think are BoP to character, but the contents are not. So you can mail the contents to other characters, but not the boxes. So that is just another waste of inventory slots and bank vault slots and e-mail slots. And I have a huge number of Bank Slots, GBoH and Dragon Horde bags.
And everything I get from the Dread Ring Skirmish BoPs to character and is NEVER an item the character can actually use. So I stopped bothering with that skirmish as it was a complete waste of time.
And the little Gremlin hats or whatever they are in Sharandar are the same. Just junk you have to sell.
And when I get a better Epic item to replace one I already have, I'd prefer the old one to BoE to Account rather than BoE to character, so I can reuse it on another character instead of salvaging it.
Although why it binds at all so I cannot resell it I don't know.
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At the very least cryptic should make Flowers for Everyone bound on account on pickup, and fix the problem with the bottomless waterskin, everlasting water bucket, and decanter of endless water; they all say they are bound on equip in the store but are actually bound on pickup on character.
I also had a good number of hero's feasts on a seperate character, logged in, right at the dragon spawn in neverdeath, was about to drop a hero's feast for everyone (I had about 9 at the time) and looked to find they were no where to be found in my character's inventory.
Checking on other Hero's Feasts elsewhere, I saw they were now bind on pickup. Where the ones I had just dissappeared from his inventory altogether, with the petals from last year. Had about 3,333 petals exactly saved up from turning in the favors (since I was just down by exactly 1 from getting the mount)
There was no mention of any of this before hand.
The transmutes and the feasts were the biggest money makers from last year's event...maybe that's why the change. I guess if you wait long enough the mounts might be worth a little.
Okay, Panic.
How did you manage to buy a mount so quickly? I don't think I am even 20% of the way there yet....
I beleive the trade bar merchant sells the favors.
Tool tips should be accurate
Update: Confirmed. The Tool Tips Water Toys at the Petal Shop are incorrect.
The Tool Tip says Binds on Equip, The are really Binds on Pickup
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Then one of my characters did the first few quests at the Festival and spent flower petals and blossoms on food and stuff so I could send them all to another character to use.
But when I took the others from the mail, they stacked with the ones she had and now they are ALL Bound to Character!
The wrong character!
This is nonsense and should be fixed today.
Same happened to me. For the Winter Fest all I did was fish and mass-produce feasts. So at the start of midsummer I got my SW's crafting up to 3 (as she is the lowest geared and most of my other toons are using professions to profit off of the mod) and was just going to transfer mats to her. Then I turn around and everything is BoP. Fuquit. Leveled all tooons to 3 and am doing nothing but collect fireblossom now on all toons. That and dailies and I'll see what I can afford at the end of event. Not going to bother with it otherwise.
3700 petals saved last year as I had no more to spend them on - summer feast? there'll be one next year.... carried them in my inventory for a year (not that I could discard them) then bamm they are gone! Do me a favour if you're going to remove event stuff with or without notice do it ASAP so I can use the space in my inventory.
Hero's Feast was going to get all my toons working on them as they are a great team buff. But 3 of them will now go back to churning leadership and just collect the favour for the mount...if that does turn out to be BOE after all. Hint....a way of muting the skins from event mounts onto zen shop mounts would be great and more incentive to go for them.
I really liked that the balloons were BOE work on my main and buy for the alts I play with....but no!! an incorrect tool tip, obviously too busy messing with inventorys to get them right.
It's such a shame as the summer festival is one of the best events, I was peeved about the petals, but the rest really are last straws wrt this event. All PWE/Cryptic seem to want to do is make things more frustrating for the legit players, is BOA (if you feel you must bind stuff) really that hard to do?
Or, you know ... announce it once it happens. As it is, I think hundreds of players (at least) got an unpleasant surprise.
(At least the one character I had last year at this time got to keep his Sunite Acolyte. She has quite the backstory...it's somewhere deep in the Moonstone Mask section here.)
It was fun last year and now im must just buy PIg companion to even make thisworth while... LIke comingof this TYranny MOD /skirmish/ and events will be set to a point BUy zen to enjoy the game...
B4 module 3 A beta NW starter player can tolerate stuff and say its not PAy to win... But now anything cant just move w/o paying ... SLowly it is happening... Sadly free to play this game is and IS pay to thrive 60% a time.
JUst saying the events themselves are the last reasons to make players stay. if they take that away whats the point...
As for me the reason i went here since beta U can Thrive by hunting grinding epics and its not monotonous coz of almsot evry month if not 2mnths event... NOw they ruining events by BOP and no giving us a chane to trade or sell them.. IF dungeons started this epic equipments are not BOP and now they are except for the loot it self.. now event items are BOP its really gona kill the game.
Not happy about the lost petals, but if they're going to
erase things, please let us drop useless junk in that
inventory. Who needs several hundred blades or seeds?
I run out of space pretty quick stacking up new petals.
No way I can handle yet another currency!
Like a previous poster, I had a bunch of bars saved up over the years and decided to buy enough Favors to get me a mount, and maybe work on upgrading it on one character or even just AH it and see what happens.. did the purchase, mentioned BoE on the tooltip before I bought it, then saw it bound to the character I bought it on. *Despite* it clearly showing BoE on the store.
Not a happy camper, especially with the inability to quickly ignore all these spammers that are now sending whispers and clogging up PE's channels. Good thing I am keeping this game as one to check out at times of boredom and as hard as it is, not spend a dime any further than I once did.. waaaay too much monetizing on too many things (account wide companions are a nice start, but are tied to packs.. separate the account-wides from the packs, keep them account wide and do it to all the non-lockbox companions and watch the cash pour in even moreso).
Gotta keep at least something bound somewhere, not like where the game as gone now to where little is tradeable, little reason to keep loot drops from the refining cap, but at least its gold to remove enchantments now (that's a start.. a small one, but yeah).
/blargh. More bound stuff when it shouldn't be. Especially for those players who kept the stuff from last year. Not surprised though.
I already have TWO Account-Wide Epic mounts, so I won't be bothering with that part of the Festival on any of my 13 characters, then.
But what about the poor people who have spent Trade Bars on the Favours? Ten of those is a Coalescent Ward!
I think I worked out what happened with the food stuffs - if you buy ANY of them with Fire Petals (Caprese, Watermelon Sorbet and Squash Soup) they are BIND ON PICKUP.
BUT, they WILL stack with any UNBOUND that you already have, or if you take Unbound foods from your Bank, e-mail or Guild Vault and have any Bound ones in inventory, they will STACK AND BECOME BOUND. i assume any you buy from the AH will also be bound.
So don't buy any!
The ones you get as rewards from people at the festival are NOT BoP.
This HAS to be a bug, because otherwise it is a really, really sneaky, dirty, low-down, Stealth Ninja, tricky trap to do that to us.
It HAS to be a bug, and hopefully they will fix it early this week.
Surely?
I mean, there is even an in-game Postal Courier there. Why is that even there if not to indicate that we can mail stuff from one character to another?
All the stuff you get as rewards for the events are UNBOUND (except favours, petals and blossoms). But anything you buy with Fire Petals make ALL of them bound. the stuff you buy with Blossoms (like Crafting stuff) are NOT Bound.
So, let the Buyer Beware!
Please fix this on Monday and make the Mounts Unbound as well. Otherwise you are permanently handicapping your own event.
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For the love of all that is D&D, stop ANNOYING legitimate players who can't spend 18 hours and $30 a day on your game. You are slowly killing the fun and not helping with the gold/AD sellers. These measures are underhand and leave a really bad taste in the mouth.
Four things that would immediately help to begin to restore confidence and credibility in your player base's eyes.
1. Make all Heroes Feast bind to account
2. Restore petals etc from last year
3. Either leave currencies for the next event alone and in bags (like medallions, good idea by the way) or delete them after you can no longer use them in the event (after patch to remove any merchants that remain after event)
4. COMMUNICATE - tell us why you are doing this/not doing this. Why are you not capable of letting us know why you are doing things?
In conclusion,, these feel like you have been less than open with your player base (again, and in recent history). Please keep this game fun and not keep throwing your players onto the rails with no warning. It is not the honourable thing to do.
I wish they would open up currency wallet for all account characters to share, it just makes for a better experience and makes games ALT friendly, because it doesn't matter what class you take, at least in the end you can share the rewards with your others.
The ones that drop from placing first in the events like Troll hunting and the Water fight are BoE , the ones from the store are BoP but yeah ,the ones in the store need to have their tooltip fixed even though it is too late for a lot of people now.
Basically, no matter what changes you make to this game YOU NEED TO TELL US FIRST so that we can make the appropriate preparations ourselves. In the case of Zebular and many others they were storing items on a bank alt who then gets these items forcably bound to them when they have no intention of ever using them on that character.
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I'm also not a fan of the character bound idea. The afore mentioned chara slated for deletion has tarmalune bars and while not a huge amount, it pains me to delete the chara and essentially throw away something of value that I paid real money for (i.e. bought the keys to open lockboxes with zen which I bought with real money). If something must be bound, bind it to the account. The item still stays out of the AH and you end up with happier players. Win/win.
I wanted a horse for certain charas but if I'm shy a token or two, the only chara that can get a token by using tarmalune bars is the one chara I wouldn't use the horse for since I only use that chara to open all boxes due to the tarmalune bars being character bound. And since the mount is BoP, I'm doubly screwed. Again with the very not cool aspect. Make the mount account bound (instead of BoP) if you must, but allow us the freedom to trade it amongst the characters on our account.
Don't take away people's hard earned currency from last year. you need to reward your veteran players, not betray their trust. Just good business sense. Also I think ALL Bop should be bind to account. all of it.