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The buffs to GFs are absolutely silly.
There is no longer any need to juggle health and guard while building up enough AP to heal. There is no longer any need to time knight's valor or even taunt. All you need do is stand there holding shift and the right mouse button while occasionally pressing Into the Fray.
Guardian Fighters are completely broken and boring, requiring zero skill while being super OP.
- Knight's Valor is always on, completely negating the need to ever hold aggro.
- Into the Fray grants a whopping 37.5% damage buff (at 50% damage mitigation), on top of the 20% debuff from Tide of Iron and 8% debuff from Mark that we already brought.
- You can now block forever by simply shield bashing your opponent.
There is no longer any need to juggle health and guard while building up enough AP to heal. There is no longer any need to time knight's valor or even taunt. All you need do is stand there holding shift and the right mouse button while occasionally pressing Into the Fray.
Guardian Fighters are completely broken and boring, requiring zero skill while being super OP.
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Besides, Neverwinter needs a class that can fight CWs. XD
Apparently not. I've been playing my cleric instead, and I've yet to encounter a single GF who uses knight's valor in PvE tanking, which is absurd since it was already the best tanking ability before it was made a permanent buff.
So I guess the fact that GFs are severely overpowered is a non-issue in general because nobody seems to know how to play them.
cuz ~35% damage is a huge buff, while a flat increase of ~35 damage is bubkiss
Yes, Into the Fray gives a damage percentage bonus equal to 75% of the GF's damage resistance. It's huge.
I am not sure you realize how much GFs were underbuffed....
Norbir Hammerblow@Oathbound Paladin Level 70
Yo stfu. GF's have struggled for far too long. If you don't like it, don't play it. GF's finally have a place now. I haven't seen this many GF's online since Mod 1. I'm not tryna come at you disrespectful, but if you don't like them because they bore you. Don't play the class.
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
I fear that the devs listen to these children who are afraid of competition in game
GFs had a place. They weren't broken; they just weren't used properly. My GF already felt more useful than my DC to parties, and now there's no denying it. The GF brings more buffs, more debuffs, more mitigation, and significant healing though regen and fighter's recovery, not to mention situational placement of enemies.
Not playing my GF doesn't solve the issue.
Are you talking about Mod 4 or 3?
Cuz last I checked, a GF can't heal better than a cleric, either self-heal OR party-heal.
Brah, sooo many things were broken or weak for the GF prior too the recent buffs. GF's were often times avoided in PvE and high end PvP. Prior to Mod 4, GF's were NOT the true tanks of the game; the GWF was. Knight's Valor used to get GF's killed VERY often. That's why KV used too be considered dangerous too use. KV's in conjunction with a DC is incredibly good for parties! Also, the GF has more total debuffs than a DC, are nowhere near as great has the DC's debuffs. What does the GF's personal healing have too do with anything when it comes to parties?
You absorb the damage through knight's valor. Then you heal yourself.
LOOOLLL??? What? It's pretty clear we're not talking about the same Knight's Valor here. KV does not heal the GF, it does the opposite. How long have you been GF'ing? Actually do you even GF brah lol?
You absorb the damage with knight's valor. Then you heal yourself with fighter's recovery. How long have YOU been a GF?
Why would you use fighter's recov?? Supremecy of steel, villians menace, and terrifying impact are all better dailies.
(You even GF bro?? XD )
Uh, because you can go from almost dead to full health with fighter's recovery. The other dailies are convenient, but in difficult content fighter's recovery is essential.
Thats actually wrong in two ways:
1. If you are a GF that is actually TANKING, then you will want to bring a cleric along. Not only do they debuff, they also heal; thus eliminating the need for FR.
2. If you are "almost dead," then the animation time of FR will be enough for the monsters to fully kill you.
You don't use it when you're almost dead. You use it right before you're almost dead, so that it takes you from almost dead to half health when you cast enforced threat. Then you block and at will stab them until your health is full.
Before the patch, you would use it, knock them back with frontline surge to bring you to half health and then follow up with enforced threat to bring you to full health.
The fact that a cleric is healing does not eliminate the need for fighter's recovery. Sometimes they're busy. Sometimes things go wrong.
They took a fun underdog that people were too stupid to realize was a decent class and made it ridiculously overpowered.
you do not know what it says, if GF were good before why only appeared on page 7 in the top pvp? were not obvious that if your class this weak now facing a gf ask her buffs.
Yea because this game is so hard. GFs at best were capable, using another class would be useful. It's always been like that before, thats why no one took GFs because an equally "skilled" player on another class would be alot more useful.
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
This statement made it seems as if you thought KV healed the GF. Can't blame me for YOUR presentation lol.
So how is that OP/boring again? Why would you want to depend on the DC so much too stay alive when you're the TANK?
There was also a solo q GF on page 3-5 so GF had the potential but most ppl cant't play GF thats why there were not many GFs in leaderboard same with CW. If a class has potential to be good but requires skill people would rather play HR or GWF in PvP.
Haha I see watcha did there xD!! ZING!!!
Even if you have no idea how to play a GF, healing with both the regeneration stat and fighter's recovery were explicitly mentioned earlier.
That's not what's OP. What's OP is everything that was mentioned in the original post.