AD and Auction house

valsharen88 · June 2014

Hi, i have a question about astral diamonds.
In my guild we’re usually split the dungeon’s drops. When we finish a dungeon, one of us take all the item and sell it in auction house. Then, he pass to the other members of the party their part of the AD earned by the auction house. Recently, one of my guild members passed to her boyfriend some AD and now she is banned for AD selling, but she is’nt ad AD seller. I dont want to spend any more money and time for this game, if i risk to be banned just for passing AD for splitting a drop.

thesensai · June 2014

Well, you cant give someone AD. There is no function to do so in the game, other than to maybe trade something that's boe and have them post it in ah, certainly nothing bannable about that. You cant transfer gold either.

angrysprite · June 2014

The best (and really "only") way to transfer AD to another player is through the Auction House. Your case is not uncommon, people transfer to friends all the time and it's easy to do. Here's how:

Four of us, I have the AD (10000AD) - we each get 250AD. All each of you have to do is to post something silly, like a single lesser healing potion for 250AD and I will buy it. You get your AD and I can just toss the lesser healing potion. If some other fool buys it then that's icing on the cake for you.

So whatever you or she did to get a ban was obviously a real no-no.

beckylunatic · June 2014

I think the problem is that Cryptic is cracking down on exactly the kind of sale you're describing there, Sprite, and if they're catching a few players who are just trying to do split-loot, then all the folks with unjustified bans can do is contact customer service to dispute their case.

I'm aware that at least on guild who was doing split runs of CN farming was having their coordinator pay out in keys (which the recipient then has the option to use or sell). Might be worth considering that instead (and yes, you can buy Zen with AD as long as you place your order and wait, but split run payouts require patience anyway, no?).

place222 · June 2014

I Have the same case too!!!

this cme from PW :

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PLEASE NEED YOUR CLARITY GM!!!

We just only transfer AD to our Friend. why we got Banned by PW?

kvet · June 2014

It's interesting to hear this. My guild does this regularly, we keep spreadsheets and track it very meticulously. When a high value piece of loot drops, one person gets it and sells it, then contacts the members of the party for which that item dropped and the party member "sells" some low value item to the "loot master" (a potion, or generic treasure thing, anything, doesn't matter what it is) for some specified amount based on the party members share of the drop. Yes, we lose some value for commissions, but that's the price paid for equity in CN drop sharing.

I'm very disappointed to learn this sort of activity might cause a red flag. I can see why it would... but there must be some recourse. If what I described is, in fact, against the rules, I haven't been able to find it (I would very much like to see someone "in the know" to explain to me how it would be a violation). Being banned for "gold selling" is a serious thing, gold sellers are ruining the NW economy, but what I've described here is NOT gold selling, even if it heuristically resembles it.

Is there, at least, and appeals process one could go through if this happens to them?

place222 · June 2014

Rule 3.03 - No Posting of Personal Conversations or Personal Information

kvet · June 2014

Well, in their defense, the notice is sent to someone they assume is trying to scam (that in this case, it appears the ban wasn't given appropriate doesn't matter - it's an automated message). That sounds a little bit like how I'd speak to my children when scolding them for something. "Please don't eat in my office. If you want to continue to use my computer to play games, you'll have to leave the food in the kitchen"

place222 · June 2014

kvet wrote: »

Well, in their defense, the notice is sent to someone they assume is trying to scam (that in this case, it appears the ban wasn't given appropriate doesn't matter - it's an automated message). That sounds a little bit like how I'd speak to my children when scolding them for something. "Please don't eat in my office. If you want to continue to use my computer to play games, you'll have to leave the food in the kitchen"

thats not an auto message, that was cme from Customer Service PWE.

pandora1x · June 2014

Wow really they ban for this?

Include AD in the Trade option then... not just gold.

frishter · June 2014

Presumably they're mistaking her for an AD seller and if she contact them back she should hopefully get her account back. Hopefully they cool it off though as top guilds do this often to let all players earn and progress. Then again cryptic have also been shooting themselves in the foot over some things. I'd be furious with cryptic if they did the same to me.

kvet · June 2014

place222 wrote: »

thats not an auto message, that was cme from Customer Service PWE.

Yes it was. It's a template. It might not have been sent "automatically" but no one manually typed that message out and sent it, uniquely, to the recipient. They have a system, and when a ban is issued, either that message is sent automatically when the ban is processed, or the person handling the ticket pushed a button and that message - pre-written as a template - was sent. Either way, it's still a canned message.

kvet · June 2014

frishter wrote: »

Presumably they're mistaking her for an AD seller and if she contact them back she should hopefully get her account back. Hopefully they cool it off though as top guilds do this often to let all players earn and progress. Then again cryptic have also been shooting themselves in the foot over some things. I'd be furious with cryptic if they did the same to me.

I posed this thread to my guild site as a warning to members, and I'll also make sure my members know in game as well (since not everyone frequents the guild site). It's a darn shame this is happening, because sharing the spoils of CN runs equally is a MUCH better way than only one person getting the drop.

valsharen88 · June 2014

Well, I Know the Cryptic is trying to kick out the AD seller, but all this is unfair! They're banning players for no reasons! In our case she spent a lot of money for this game. We sent a lot of e-mail to Cryptic and there's no way to have the account back; they're really dishonest with the people who paid them!
they really think an AD seller would lose all this time to get back an account?

zebular · June 2014

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kvet · June 2014

zebular · June 2014

. . . Sorry, I have to close this up as in its context, it violates several rules.

. . . However, I'll see what I can find out for the Community about using the AD Exchange to divvy up loot earnings. I personally do not see how this, when done in a legit manner, would be cause for banning... but I am not a Lawmaker here, I only enforce them in these parts and unfortunately, that's out of my jurisdiction. Therefore I cannot give say if it is legit to do or not in game as these are the forums.

zebular · June 2014

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It is best to discuss with them directly about Game Infractions, as as such is not allowed here.

AD and Auction house

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