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ripyourlipsoff
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So last night I am in a Domination, this one we were losing bad for whatever reason I was the only one on our team not at campfire with 1 kill and I shouted in zone if anyone would honor a 1v1... Now as a GF my chances of winning our far lower but still fair fight is a fair fight!
HR with top scores say's I'd love to, I say meet me near bridge we meet and count 3-2-1 we are fighting Im doing my best rotations while hes taking little damage and deflecting... I start knocking him around get him down maybe 25% but hes doing a ton of damage to me coming in and out of shifts etc, now this is the silly part he didn't use thornward and didn't even use a ranged attack..... YES he didn't use a ranged attack he melee'd me to death and was doing really incredible damage doing so too, I used every tactic, potion, blood crystal, evade, block tactic I could but no chance?
Now I am not suggesting hes OP or Nerfs or anything, but I will say that a Ranged class shouldn't be able to kill a melee tank in melee? Hopefully our buffs will tend to this because Wow! talk about feeling holy cow useless.
HR with top scores say's I'd love to, I say meet me near bridge we meet and count 3-2-1 we are fighting Im doing my best rotations while hes taking little damage and deflecting... I start knocking him around get him down maybe 25% but hes doing a ton of damage to me coming in and out of shifts etc, now this is the silly part he didn't use thornward and didn't even use a ranged attack..... YES he didn't use a ranged attack he melee'd me to death and was doing really incredible damage doing so too, I used every tactic, potion, blood crystal, evade, block tactic I could but no chance?
Now I am not suggesting hes OP or Nerfs or anything, but I will say that a Ranged class shouldn't be able to kill a melee tank in melee? Hopefully our buffs will tend to this because Wow! talk about feeling holy cow useless.
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
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Can I ask what his gear/gearscore was? sounds like a melee path pathfinder using the pvp set, and using deflect pots(heal with said set) maybe?
That being said, GF tankiness is currently outdone by high lifesteal/deflect abilities anymore now. I haven't checked, but I hear bad things about the upcoming mod...
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Sorry for the miscommunication, that's what I was figuring too. That's why I asked what his gear was...
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Yes thank you for that information...
I just do not think a Hyrbid class should be able to dispatch a pure melee class with melee? Especially if that pure is a TANK! It should require trickery and both ranged and melee abilities... Am I off base?
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I was *really* hoping this thread (OP) was going to be a "Congratulations to that HR for being an awesome player who knows his class extremely well". But unfortunately no, it turns out to be another complaint.
@Ripyoulipsoff: this is ONE player and rather than going positive with a congratulations you are being negative with a complaint. We need more threads in these forums that are positive. But alas it is not to be so. With that said my contribution to this thread is:
AT HR WHO WON: Congratulations, you are obviously a well-practiced player who knows your class - good game!
AT GF WHO LOST: Congratulations for putting up a darned good fight and being surprised at being bested in an unexpected way, these moments are what make the game so much fun.
Congratulations to both of you.
You know HRs have knifes for melee too, right?
HR NEVER was a ranged class only. It was always a hybrid in all d&d versions.
These threads are getting ridiculous. Whats next? "HR used healing potion. How does he do it??? He lives in a forest and should not have the moniezzzz for that!!!111one"
Seriously? Ur GF got beaten by a MELEE hybrid dps class. End of story.
How do you dare criticizing POOR hrs while you are playing those OP OP OP GFs you imbecile ?
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
I told y many times y shoud not cry about GWF there is much more op class out in NW, HR is on the top the second is WK perma .
But y cryed soo much ,now look what have y and your pals done to GWF on prev.
Now y come back and cry about HR pathetic . ( better if y make not just 2 chars)
I have GF too, i do each day PVP whit it .PLS search in forum hou many times i cry about the other 5 classes vs my GF.
The only thing is unfair in this game is CW and DC can push down bosses and the block cannot block certain skills and ofc, and some skills dalys (now GWF will have none) ignoring CC resist.
Guardian Fighters also get out melee's by Trickster Rogues, even worse than HR's. Duelist's Flury eats their shield alive haha.
Generally, HRs were given more Life Steal (affected by HD) but less deflect (unaffected by HD). It's trending in the right direction.
Excellent ....a respecting tip of my hat and bow to you for bringing this thread to grace.
I congratulated him in game personally, I need not do so to you! After thinking about it having all the PVP gear i was concerned that an HR ranged / melee hybrid should not be better at melee...Then a melee pure, therefore I posted on it. Furthermore seeing it was a post by me you should have continued on.
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I don't mind that as they are a pure DPS melee so...
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
I'd be happy to play with ya in game? I play everyday for many hours!
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It is almost 100% sure the HR used BOTH melee AND ranged powers. It would be an incredible waste to only use half of your stuff.
This being said, the truth is you cannot expect to win against a decent HR as a GF. This is especially true on the node if that AoE is on and ticking.
As a consolation, no other class can win either, unless the HR is bad or makes mistakes. I am talking about HRs that are semidecent and have the PvP set, not about those 25K HP "iSnipe FTL" squish builds that even a CW can kill.
"Ranger" in D&D isn't derived from "ranged" attacks but from the idea of the ranger being someone charged with service and protection... like Forest Ranger or US Army Ranger.
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Imagine for a moment a MMA practitioner entering the octagon with a Judo core background and takes a
fight with a Karate practitioner. Pretend the Judoist wins the fight with relative ease.
They typically embrace one another expressing regard and respect and they always learn more about themselves and improve what they have, and that post fight embrace is a mental thank you for offering that feedback.
The karate practitioner takes the event as feedback for self evaluation and an opportunity to further refine ones own art delving into the possibility that one has not realized the power via strategy etc that's already existing there. The karate stylist might even learn Judo to enhance their application of their own art. Maybe, just maybe the experience of the event revealed that they might be more suited to the practice and expression of Judo?!!
What you don't ever hear in MMA media using the case above, the Karate practitioner complaining to the mma federation that the Judoist is far too powerful and they should be restricted from using what they have learned. They would just laugh and tell him to learn and become a Judoist!
In PVP this would translate to:
Look at how you apply the power already in the class you for whatever reason chose; maybe your version of what, say a GF is, isnt that at all, and you were shown this reality through the feedback of the contest.
Possibly your psyche is better suited in using another class power structure even though you might think you conceptually feel otherwise. That's possibly what PVP is best at...showing you your truth where rubber meets the road. It could very well be that you can perform as well as your opponent after sufficient SELF evaluation and implementation with practice using the original class you chose.
But before decreeing to the developers to squelch the power your opponent seemed to have available in their class that you didnt, maybe instead ask yourself in the quietness within self...where you cannot lie, would you beat this person if you had the very same character? Is it possible they are that good at using what they have available and have chosen a character that relates to their psyche best? Could it be that the GF is a class meant to help one grow in application of tactics and strategies that are used in other classes that are designed best for PVP (mortal combat) ?
ie Tai chi is an art that you dont see being used in the octagon in mma...but i assure you that the skills in it offer a huge bonus when used with octagon designed arts. might this be also true about the GF etc?
I don't know you from Adam and I couldn't care any less. I do not judge or hold grudges against specific people. Even if you created the most thrashtastic troll-bait thread there is in all these forums it would be the thread that is the issue, not you personally.
It's okay to leverage the complaint you have. But openly and publicly proffering a congratulations to the other player to open the thread before posing your complaint as a question would have such a better, positive feel to it than what is there now. There is whining and there is discussion. Which does the OP come closer to? I don't know, each reader must decide for themselves.
I am only stating that I was hoping to see a friendly, positive thread only to find what there is simply too much of: another negative-slanting complaint thread. It's not difficult to turn even this kind of thread into a positive slant. For example you *could* have phrased things this way:
"HR bested me, a GF using only melee skills! Wow! Congratulations to him and thanks for a really challenging game. This also brings up the question of an HR being more powerful in melee than a full-tank class. I am experienced//geared//lots of PvP//expositional descriptions of my prowess here, so I must admit I was rather surprised at his win. I don't think a hybrid class should be more powerful than a full tank class. What you you think about it?"
THAT would be a complaint prosed into a more positive-sounding thread.
Either way, I reiterate: Congratulations for putting-up a good fight, I sincerely hope it was enjoyable to you, especially with the close-game it sounds like it was. After all it IS just a stupid, silly game and so there's no reason to take anything that happens in it too seriously, right?
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I hear that my brotha! Lets keep testing on Preview and hope that Crush is listening...
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I'd like to know who thought thorn ward needed a buff.
Just like CONTROL Wizard should be able to control.
The butthurt is strong in this one.....