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Patch Notes: NW.15.20140610a.4
dwightmc
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Hello,
A full list of today's patch notes can be found here: http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/neverwinter/detail/6001243
- Dwight
A full list of today's patch notes can be found here: http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/neverwinter/detail/6001243
- Dwight
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Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion)
Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
WTB Class Reroll please
A developer once said they are gonna be nerfing it to 50% chance, 1 sec internal cooldown and fixed to obey HD. When that's coming, I have no clue. It's nice though to have people crying about another class for once
You mean like you just did...
I'm seeing AUGUST - mod 4 for game breaking issues? REALLY?
I realize these may not be easy fixes, but if you are not one of the 3 below classes, you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage.
- GWF ROAR: Broken beyond words - and nearly spam-able with Defender build.
- HR Healing Depression: oh wait, they have none......
- TR (PERMA): my god, they can hold a cap alone vs 3 people. Remove the Bait n Switch refresh on the stealth cool-down, at least make the cool-down longer
Maybe because they can't just roll in and fix the game balanced centered around PvP, without it potentially ruining a classes purpose in PvE to oblivion (some are already on their way) ?? one hand washes the other...
None of the bugs referenced by him affect PVE. and TR's are already one of the least desired classes in PVE so, actually they do need some love in that department.
Currently TR's rely on perma/semi-perma builds because their damage was nerfed into oblivion, bringing it back up would actually make them move a bit away from those types of builds/playstyles. It would be fine to tweak stealth a bit though I'm of the opinion that's it's WAI and it's more of a playstyle/mechanics knowledge issue since I have no problem in finding many of the stealth relying TR's.
"tweaks"..."fixes" ..."nerfs" create a catastrophe of un-replaceable events across the board when you share PvP/PvE content-
Roar does more that it's intended to do, it's currently game-breaking bugged and trully needs to be addressed. It wouldn't affect the PVE side of it because It would still interrupt mobs and generate determination.
Healing Depression doesn't exist in PVE so, it' wouldn't affect PVE.
The perma/semi-perma builds are a consequence of nerfs to TR's and go even further by sacrificing a lot of damage in order to work properly in pvp so, addressing it (by buffing other aspects of TR's) would actually make them BETTER and more versatile at PVE.
I don't see your point......
Roar in PvE is only a slight mitigation as it is in most circumstances, hardly game breaking in PvE, take it out entirely to appease the PvP aspect of the game, you take away a slight PvE advantage, then whats next? lets scour the forums to see what else PvPers want to take away, to add to that....Point is, the list will NEVER end... This is why highend game developers are separating PvP gear/skills from PvE when entering that respective content.
LoL, no, have you ever been on the recieving end of Roar? The biased view is not wanting it to get fixed....it's beyond broken <-- admitted by Devs. And currently being abused by many gwf's in pvp.
Nobody asked to remove Roar, just to fix it. If it is already (and I quote you on that) "only a slight mitigation in PVE" then, fixing it (as by removing the ~2sec silence/root (wich aren't part of it's description) wouldn't hurt PVE.
Again, I don't see you point when it comes to these changes...
Yes, indeed and that right there is the nº1 request by ALL of the community. I would completely support such balancing system.
Nobody asked to remove Roar, just to fix it. If it is already only (and I quote you on that) "only a slight mitiagtion" in PVE then, fixing it (as by removing the ~2sec silence/root (wich aren't part of it's description) wouldn't hurt PVE.
Again, I don't see you point....[/QUOTE]
/facepalm.....so its broke for PvP its broke for all of PvE as well? POINT is again.... what happens to "supposed balance" fixes in PvP aspect of the game in the long run starts to trickle into the PvE aspect of the game.. You're focused on one lousy skill instead of the bigger picture. They don't need to sit around and pick and prod at every little skill or, heal power, or tankable ability or whatever comes up when PvPers go into rage fest over the new OP class, they need to change the entire game mechanics where they (pvP/PvE) is entirely separate..
Then maybe a Tank can be desired a tank again in PvE, and not a unkillable block of meat in PvP....get it?
Correction which is good for the skills these classes always leaving after ... forever after.
Yes, it is, the difference is that mobs won't ever complain if it's broken or not. Wich it is.
Indeed, and, has I have already stated, I have no objections in this regard.
Yes, I am because that particular skill affects the hole pvp picture. When dueling a GWF, yes, it makes THAT BIG of a difference.
Roar has been broken since this game became available, it's been reported has bugged for over a year it just didn't see so much use as lately because, now, GWF's are manageable when they don't use it (not trying to decredit whoever plays a GWF, I play one and there are many that don't rely on Roar to be successfull). So, you can't really say that they didn't have time to look into the skill.
Indeed, and that is a much bigger game design problem, that also needs to be adressed however, it doesn't invalidate the fact that, sometimes, some other small problems need to be solved as soon as they show up.
And here I remove myself from the discussion since I've already agreed where I felt like I needed to agree with you, disagreed where I needed to disagree, and have already tried to inform you about the reasons why people request these changes, which I don't feel like they are any less/more important.
I also don't like the crying/whining that runs rampant in these forums they have, in fact, lead to the nerf of some of my favourite classes and I don't wish to promote/have that kind of behaviour (you can see this by the fact that I don't request/promote a nerf to stealth since I don't feel like it's a problem, however, others may disagree with me).
At least we agree on the segregation of the two contents...
Part in red I just wanted to state, There have been NUMEROUS things not in a "description" later added to fit what that item/skill/boon/etc actually does, because it don't say it in the description, don't allays mean it's broke. It actually would make sense for it to root/prone for potential mobs that are Immune to one but not the other.. in this case, it hurts the PvP part of the game though, so obviously it will seem broken, or exploitable...
"fixing" it for PvP would mean taking something away that MAY have been intended on the PvE spectrum.
You do have a point there, but, here is a quote from Gentlemancrush, a game developer, about Roar, please read it: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?674281-So-is-Roar-supposed-to&p=8015091&viewfull=1#post8015091
It's recent but took me a while to find it xD
Hope that it helps sheding some light on why, apparently, it trully isn't working has intended
I posted on bug report this issue.
Please PWE, return my companion along with his rune stones and items.
the patch note mentioned a fix for claiming it when you have a full inventory any idea on a fix if you have my issue?
Its probably coming in module 4, since they are already planning class changes for 4 different classes.
I still have both my Damaran dogs so I seriously doubt this was intended. They were (and still are) both idle, but this still looks like very nasty bug.
So, you guys don't know what that power is called or what's wrong with it but it's somehow fixed?
Hmm...
You would all log into your own NW realm, and like prisoners youd be all wearing EXACTLY the same items, stats etc ; hierarchy and power is claimed by strategy and ability only.
Then the Dev's can focus on far more exciting and important things for this amazing game than reacting to pissy pvp crying.
Overpowered other classes when viewed from a cooperative view takes a different spin when in a difficult dungeon with them when someone's so called OP class might save your butt due to enhanced healing etc...but noooo....lets nerf them instead. I loved seeing that GWF come to my aid with that "OP" rush etc...or the CW lifting their butt into the clouds....appreciation of others is appreciation of self...Their power reveals my own, not the reverse.
So, PVPs would have access to ALL spells and abilities ...15 actionbar icons etc...be a multiclassed powerhouse and see who can mix n match and manage all that power...that would end the whining about who has what and would truly bring forth the best...but pls...someone...give these whiners a soother and let us PVE's enjoy specialized focused power