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thegrandexeno
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Howdy, I was cruisin' the forums and just wanted to drop by and say hello sharing a story that could be interesting to some.
Today's Domination, random game, I got against a TR. Nothing new, nothing rare.
The fact that I want you to focus on is that he wasn't PERMA stealth, neither Attack only (no stealth-build): he was utilizing, imho, the TR to it's true name, zappig in and out of stealth to kite many peeps and still contest a node, hopping off the node and resuming (oh and btw killing me in the process XD).
In my humble opinion he was playing very good his character: sure, he wasn't oneshotting jesus and his brother but surely he was contending nodes, VERY durable (with his tactics of blitz-stealth) and really difficult to pin down. He was deninitely NOT the "typical" perma that relies only in stealth, he was somewhat of an hybrid (iirc he even hadn't enhanchements, like bile or such). What was especially glaring was how he played, completely cool headed, with no "rush" to end things quickly (and dying in the meantime, like many TR I see).
All of this to let you know my perspective as an opponent of how beautiful a TR can play without resorting to "Extreme builds": notably how being cool headed can really improve your gameplay as a TR, and overall effectiveness in a teamplay.
Peace
Today's Domination, random game, I got against a TR. Nothing new, nothing rare.
The fact that I want you to focus on is that he wasn't PERMA stealth, neither Attack only (no stealth-build): he was utilizing, imho, the TR to it's true name, zappig in and out of stealth to kite many peeps and still contest a node, hopping off the node and resuming (oh and btw killing me in the process XD).
In my humble opinion he was playing very good his character: sure, he wasn't oneshotting jesus and his brother but surely he was contending nodes, VERY durable (with his tactics of blitz-stealth) and really difficult to pin down. He was deninitely NOT the "typical" perma that relies only in stealth, he was somewhat of an hybrid (iirc he even hadn't enhanchements, like bile or such). What was especially glaring was how he played, completely cool headed, with no "rush" to end things quickly (and dying in the meantime, like many TR I see).
All of this to let you know my perspective as an opponent of how beautiful a TR can play without resorting to "Extreme builds": notably how being cool headed can really improve your gameplay as a TR, and overall effectiveness in a teamplay.
Peace
- Halflingas The Great - Stormwarden HR(60)
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my point is so many people are so bad begginers,trolls,bad gear,no experience,dont carewin or lose,give accounts to kids....its easy to be good at some games
if HAMSTER perma came, roar gwf,hr path he be dead very fast with his combat style
about what f2pma said I have no idea what he's talking about XD
...oh, I have a good idea on what he's saying.
■ He's saying those types are freaks that use stuff that never works in that "premade-level" thingy.
■ It means they don't really have any skill.
■ It means they make wierd builds as a mental mastu*bation to make up for the lack of skill.
■ They are sucky PuG level dorks, all the "fun and discussion" they have just don't matter.
■ PuG PvP. concepts, ideas are useless and is not worthy of mention.
■ People should only discuss elite-level PvP builds and tactics.
■ Anyone who's not qualified to talk about it (= not a premade level player) should just STFU.
You'd be surprised just how many "premade-level" players have that same idea, as well as their fanbois. LOL
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
man not once i saw u in pvp not once and i just solo q
if i do see u i will slot dazing deft lb and kill u old school style
Tired of being a PvP rogue and want a real challenge? Roll a GF/DC for PvP.
WTB Class Reroll please
Some people make fun of you though when you go classic rogue. One CW guy was taunting me as was like "Oh where's your ITC etc etc"... I'm a WK lol. After that, in another match. Another cocky CW killed me when I was experimenting non-perma combos (No shadow strike and whatnot). Once he killed me he typed "LOL nub", so I pulled out the perma and loled back at him XD.
Conclusion: The mentality these days is: Non-Perma TR = Trash, garbage, nub. etc etc you name it. This is because they stepped on our damage badly and hit us with nerf bats
We will see in a couple of days. I anticipate that with thrill too.
WTB Class Reroll please
anyway i hope it works for u
I used to run a Perfect Flaming/In-Out of Stealth Fine Tuned Build for Flurry and was kicking *** hard!!
Slotting some G.Tenebrous and Black Ice Enchants for POWER and some AP regen,and of course a lot of Movility to land those Duelist Flurry ...
Hit PoTB, go stealth and bring in the action to the ENEMY and I usually endep up rapping them as my
Flamming Hitted MUCH harder than PBile and I ended up Melting their HP, was it called GWF,GF,TR.
HR gave some trouble as I lacked some Ranged Capabilities, but my daggers endep up doing some fine job
at melting that HP. Sure my Stealth was shorter but I hitted so hard usually melt those guys in one rotation In close range they got scared and ran or wind up dead
Let me ask everybody a question:
One day a millionaire come up to you and teach you the secret of success, then a street drug seller come up to you and share his success formula, now you have to pick one as your golden rule of life, which one should you pick?
In short, is OP a good TR, or is he even a good PVP player? My guess he doesn't fit neither of the case, he is just another PVE/PVP causal player that share his opinion in forum, which btw that opinion is ridiculously misleading.
I say that cause I play with and against the top tier players in PVP scene, which gives me the knowledge to comment, but can OP say the same about himself?
TL;DR
OP is having another daydream section, any TR that is not full perma build or semi pema build suck monkey balls in PVP period
Current builds were discovered once too, and maybe some people thought they sucked too, but only people who dare to think outside the box and try new things will discover them.
Blah Blah Blah. Get a premade together and come premade if you win you get to talk. Some people talk what is right, some people talk cause they have a mouth.
This is at least how I feel about TR. Can I clear nodes or people fast with it? No. Can I debuff people for other to kill fast? Not really. Do I have reliable prones, can I go CC people properly? No, again, although smoke bomb is really fun. Can I heal? No.
So then, in my mind, the question is: "How do I help my team BEST as a TR?"
For now, the answer is MI trolling 2-3 people or if it is a serious game, taking ages to get cleared, and the reality is that you need to get out of CC, or you're a sitting duck once some trash CW that cannot take 10% of your HP otherwise Icy Rays you for the GWF or something.
Just my 2C.
and this is exactly what i started to do.
full perma with lurker walking around on a node willing to not being hit by a random roar.
dont even try to attack...meaningless
however just to show you the crappiness of what the OP is saying: make a list of this unbelievable combat trs and i will find one of each class in my alt guild able to kill him in a matter of seconds.
or you can test with me directly if you want
Confused; Where is the relevancy and your comment? Does this have anything to do with my comment that walking around a node stealthed doing nothing is (sarcastically) exhilarating?
/trolled
I await your permission.
Close minded/pig headed people such as these.
but seriously there isnt a single gwf that can beat me now 1v1 u all just pug hehe dont Understand a thing
and toons like u i dont even bother to kill coz they run aWAY
whatever makes you happy
Good thing the mods looking at here is like a god's bless...otherwise the threads would be cleaned up/closed quickly :P
WTB Class Reroll please