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TR - Whirlwind of blades IGNORE Tenacity & Damage Resistance
lcwwpyjhjs
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As stated in title, currently whirlwind of blade (Trickster Rogue daily) ignore Tenacity & Damage Resistance.
This is the tooltip.
And this is the test on players taken today (8/6/2014)
And as for the second bug, u could see i eat Potion of power in between. This is the tooltip for the potion.
This potion is useable in open pvp (tested), same as mount concept. During combat this potion cannot be use. However, after u leave the combat for like 7-8 second (while still been flagged pvp), it is useable & without a cooldown. So basically, I run away from opponent, spam 4x bottle straight, my daily is ready. Repeat = unlimited daily with just pot spam.
Can we get a FIX? Thank you.
P.S. - And i know a lot TR's will hate me for this :x
This is the tooltip.
And this is the test on players taken today (8/6/2014)
And as for the second bug, u could see i eat Potion of power in between. This is the tooltip for the potion.
This potion is useable in open pvp (tested), same as mount concept. During combat this potion cannot be use. However, after u leave the combat for like 7-8 second (while still been flagged pvp), it is useable & without a cooldown. So basically, I run away from opponent, spam 4x bottle straight, my daily is ready. Repeat = unlimited daily with just pot spam.
Can we get a FIX? Thank you.
P.S. - And i know a lot TR's will hate me for this :x
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Although, you have a point with the potions.
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Frankly, u dont need mine nor opponent stat to make the judgement. As you u can in that screenshot, there is other attack such as elven ferocity & shadowtouched.
Every attack in this game will include a bracket, which is first, our final hit after deducting Damage Resistance & Tenacity and the hit we suppose to do in the bracket. Tooltip never said it will ignore Damage resistance, which even they let it be now, I'm ok with it. At least add into the tooltip like SE. But an attack that ignore Tenacity? then what is the point of introducing Tenacity into the game? And just a friendly reminder, even a person is at 0 Tenacity, it start with 10% for it.
(And i can be like 80% sure that whirlwind wont deflect also)
Just to fill in ur curiosity, my TR is around 15k GS, tested direct with daily (means no feat/stealth active) with no weapon enchantment. And tested on a well.. i guess a 16-17k GS GWF, then another GWF came and killed me. And again, as u can see in that screenshot.
A GWF's IBS can hit harder than whirlwind of blades and is up about 5 times in the space 1 whirlwind is up.
On the other hand, those potions should only be used in PvE, not PvP and it's not only useful for TRs, I'd not like to see other classes spamming dailies on my head.
Like i said earlier, My TR wasn't equip with any weapon enchantment, only rank 5, And not using any feat features as in adding critical severity included Damaging in stealth bonus.
To satisfied your need, here's my TR.
Then again, like i mention earlier. Every attack came with bracket next to it. The 1st one is after deduction of everything (Tenacity/Damage Reduction/Reflect) And the second one, the damage in bracket is the damage we suppose to deal. In this case, Whirlwind of blade only came with 1 log, without bracket. Which means, it got no deduction from anything.
Notice the yellow and green differences?
To add into the story, I get a random 22k Whirlwind of blade on my gwf (Yes.. a gwf, I knw we got alot haters..) from A I dono who in GG. And again the same question will repeat, so here's the screenshot for my gwf. (And i couldn't get the screen during gg. Log been overwrite too fast)
P.S. - Just to stop the bashing, I do play every class (excluding dc) in this game.
Like i said earlier, I don't mind it hit hard or ignoring DR, but at least add into the tooltip like shocking execution. As for Tenacity, Whirlwind of blade ignores it. If so, whats the point of introducing tenacity into the game?
Notice the yellow and green differences?
Can a PWE staff comfirm this?
Personally even though it's AOE I like it a lot better than the insta-gib old SE.
I think they should keep it as is and just update the tooltip.
you say? guess where's the kill came from. Yes, from a daily that ignore tenacity & damage resistance. Like I mentioned earlier, i don't mind if it gonna change into ignore defense OR even buffing the damage, but NOT without ignoring tenacity.
I'm fine with it ignoring DR and Tenacity but not damage immunity.
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And TR takes a while to get to their Daily. It's not like CWs getting one every two rotations or more.
Oh, and GWF does more damage with IBS and that's an encounter. I have a GWF and a TR. My TR is PvE specced so he actually does damage - But my GWF, who has a far worse enchant and worse gear, does more with her IBS than my TR does with his WoB. Lesser Plague Fire versus Greater Vorpal. Less APen even with GWF's native resistance ignore. But nope I can spam IBS every few seconds, whereas I'll get off maybe 3-4 Whirlwinds in a full 30 minute GG PvP match, and that's if I'm lucky and fighting a lot.
You know how those TRs got up there? THEIR PLAYERS ARE GOOD AND HAVE GOOD GEAR. That's ALL. Stop. Bloody. Crying.
In regular domination it's common to get hit by 15-20k. Being an undodgable AoE power I really find this to be OP as all fk.
Sup with the undodgable bs anyway? I've seen TR's get triple kills so many times from this "I WIN" attack
Module 1: Jane Doe: Please nerf Lurkers Assault its iWIN.
Module 2: Jimmy Doe: Please nerf Shocking Exeuction again its still iWIN.
Module 3: froszzt: Please nerf Whirlwind of Blades its iWIN.
Module 4: Future John Doe: Please nerf Courage Breaker its OP.
Module 5: Old John Doe: Please nerf Bloodbath it gives immunity.
Module 6: Granpa Doe: Please nerf Hateful Knives daily coz TR is now actually playing WK!
Module 7: Dead Doe: Oh wait...no more dailies. Thank you Cryptic!
What's funny is Courage Breaker is probably next. After all, it bypasses immunity to apply its slowdown and -90% damage (from what I heard, haven't actually had time to test it).
I have no clue what you aimed to accomplish with that comment.
"I Win" is right. From the simple push of a button you can instantly kill a whole team. No matter how well protected or immune they are. How that is not bull**** I dunno, you tell me.
What he aimed to accomplish by that comment is people like you are responsible for the continuous nerfs to the TR class - soon to be rendered useless and dead all because you got hit for 39k in an open pvp area.
If I were you I'd beef up my ranger/cw some more as it seems you get hit for a lot of damage constantly. Figure out another solution instead of coming here and blaming a class because of your own shortcomings - it's getting real old real quick.
Every skill in this game do what the tooltip said.
Shocking execution ignore tenacity ? FIX.
HR profound set bonus ignore HD? FIX
GWF Roar rooting player for 2 second and ignore immunity? FIX
GWF Unstoppable recovery feat ignore HD? FIX
Nerfing is : The skill do exactly what the tooltip said yet the game designer feel the need to change/degrade the whole skill in either damage or effect with the tooltip together as its overpowered.
Whirlwind of blades never stated in tooltip that it ignore damage resistance/tenacity/cannot be deflect. So u tell me, its that a FIX or NERF? Its a FIX.