it's fun to climb but after im there i take a screenshot and fell to page 10 or something b/c I got sick of having to do full premades versus troll comps
I just had my 5th level 60 domination on my new alt with a TR guildie and i found it is very tough and ridiculous for the team to have 12-15 score at 5 minutes. Their GWF and TR basically sweep me out of combat in one or two rotation and that TR who camped our base killed all my allies even we 2v1 him. After a ridiculous time invested, we just give up our base and let them win the match. Then my TR guildie told me after the match they are at least a 3-man-premade (those 2 OP TR and GWF with a cleric in same guild) who are trying to stomp pugs to raise their ranking.
THEY ARE THE PAGE 1 GUYS ON LEADERBOARDS, AND ONE OF THEM IS NUMBER #1 !!!
Feel so weird and proud to fight those page 1 premade stompers in my 5th match of domination. 5th match? Where is the matchmaking? They fought so much and yet was still placed against new 60's. Maybe the ELO is down, i keep got queued with 13k gs guys like my main does, but who cares abt this? My effective defensive stats is over 6k, even 1k higher than my main, not a problem to tank them.
On a curious note here... People are saying about premades stomping PuGs and whatever... Well... You ever considered that's the mod and queue systems fault rather then the players themselves?
Yeah sure, I wanna be in a team of *good * and well geared players if I'm running in a 5 man premade.. You know why? There's guaranteed to be another one running around that if you have a weak link in the team, it's game over. Howeveer, if we have a couple of PuGs stomps before finding the long and tough premade then that's not MY or my teams teams fault.
One person did touch upon this, so it's not aimed at that person this post but the others.
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josiahiyonMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 396Arc User
edited May 2014
Running with a premade to beat bugs to rank up the leaderboard is a fools errand for multiple reasons.
#1: beating pugs lowers your ranking.
#2: no one cares about the leaderboard.
#3: it's boring
I just wanna ad something to my little expose, i did forget about the mount, a normal player or a beginner doesn't always have a 110% mount, this is crucial too in PVP, for chasing or for escaping. Bamm another nail in the coffin of the ranking list!
Don't get me wrong my fellow players, i like the TRs, but i can not find any sympathy for perma TRs and the guys who play a char like it. In my eyes these players aren't skilled, they are just OP. I for myself would never play a perma TR, what is the challenge, where is the little creeping fun, when you are like a god...pfff...
Just look at the current ranking perma TRs all over it and semi-perma HRs and OP Sentinels! This could actually give a hint for the Devs, where to cut into things.
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The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
There is no need to censor their names as long as you do not name and shame him, this is suppose an honour!! AS A DC!!!
I think you can't post someones name until it doesn't contain the @handle. So like you can't post 12121@121212
But you can post 121212@-censoredhandle-
Because as far as we all know, @handle is the one that is unique, and can be only one of them. While ingame names on the other hand.. You can have the same name with indefinite amount of people who doesn't share the same @handle.
(At least that's what I heard. )
I for myself would never play a perma TR, what is the challenge, where is the little creeping fun, when you are like a god...pfff...
Just look at the current ranking perma TRs all over it and semi-perma HRs and OP Sentinels! This could actually give a hint for the Devs, where to cut into things.
So what am I supposed to do if I like Thief/Rogue class in MMOs? Roll a GF? No, I roll TR. Then I find out we've been nerfed, then nerfed again, then nerfed again, and there's just perma left if I wanna be regarded as a good PvP TR.
So what am I supposed to do? Refuse to play the good build and run with lashing and impact shot still on deflect build? Use Sly Flourish and Vorpal just to please people that think bilethorn on flurry is OP?
There aren't many options for TR. Either you do it right, or you suck. Nobody wants that. And if you like Rogues, you play a TR, cause it's what you get, not another option. Sorry if they seem OP to you, it's not the TR's fault, it's the developer fault in nerfing repeatedly and being unable to balance classes.
On a curious note here... People are saying about premades stomping PuGs and whatever... Well... You ever considered that's the mod and queue systems fault rather then the players themselves?
Yeah sure, I wanna be in a team of *good * and well geared players if I'm running in a 5 man premade.. You know why? There's guaranteed to be another one running around that if you have a weak link in the team, it's game over. Howeveer, if we have a couple of PuGs stomps before finding the long and tough premade then that's not MY or my teams teams fault.
One person did touch upon this, so it's not aimed at that person this post but the others.
Of course not.
The discussion about the PVP system starting at the preview sections was never about premades or their players being lame, those that gave constructive feedback always blamed the system.
That's why we envisioned the leaver penalty to be fools gold, because it cured a symptom, not the illness. And hey, now we're back to 1-2 PVP threads per day. After all, the glorified changes expectedly didn't work out.
Additionally Mod3 made it worse with the leaderboard and the fact that leaving now counts as a loss towards matchmaking. Which means, players that just want to grind glory or do the campaign can create fast losses every 30 minutes to get easy matches when they actually play.
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THEY ARE THE PAGE 1 GUYS ON LEADERBOARDS, AND ONE OF THEM IS NUMBER #1 !!!
Feel so weird and proud to fight those page 1 premade stompers in my 5th match of domination. 5th match? Where is the matchmaking? They fought so much and yet was still placed against new 60's. Maybe the ELO is down, i keep got queued with 13k gs guys like my main does, but who cares abt this? My effective defensive stats is over 6k, even 1k higher than my main, not a problem to tank them.
Yeah sure, I wanna be in a team of *good * and well geared players if I'm running in a 5 man premade.. You know why? There's guaranteed to be another one running around that if you have a weak link in the team, it's game over. Howeveer, if we have a couple of PuGs stomps before finding the long and tough premade then that's not MY or my teams teams fault.
One person did touch upon this, so it's not aimed at that person this post but the others.
#1: beating pugs lowers your ranking.
#2: no one cares about the leaderboard.
#3: it's boring
Caldre is correct.
Iyon the Dark
I just wanna ad something to my little expose, i did forget about the mount, a normal player or a beginner doesn't always have a 110% mount, this is crucial too in PVP, for chasing or for escaping. Bamm another nail in the coffin of the ranking list!
Don't get me wrong my fellow players, i like the TRs, but i can not find any sympathy for perma TRs and the guys who play a char like it. In my eyes these players aren't skilled, they are just OP. I for myself would never play a perma TR, what is the challenge, where is the little creeping fun, when you are like a god...pfff...
Just look at the current ranking perma TRs all over it and semi-perma HRs and OP Sentinels! This could actually give a hint for the Devs, where to cut into things.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
I think you can't post someones name until it doesn't contain the @handle. So like you can't post 12121@121212
But you can post 121212@-censoredhandle-
Because as far as we all know, @handle is the one that is unique, and can be only one of them. While ingame names on the other hand.. You can have the same name with indefinite amount of people who doesn't share the same @handle.
(At least that's what I heard.
So what am I supposed to do if I like Thief/Rogue class in MMOs? Roll a GF? No, I roll TR. Then I find out we've been nerfed, then nerfed again, then nerfed again, and there's just perma left if I wanna be regarded as a good PvP TR.
So what am I supposed to do? Refuse to play the good build and run with lashing and impact shot still on deflect build? Use Sly Flourish and Vorpal just to please people that think bilethorn on flurry is OP?
There aren't many options for TR. Either you do it right, or you suck. Nobody wants that. And if you like Rogues, you play a TR, cause it's what you get, not another option. Sorry if they seem OP to you, it's not the TR's fault, it's the developer fault in nerfing repeatedly and being unable to balance classes.
Of course not.
The discussion about the PVP system starting at the preview sections was never about premades or their players being lame, those that gave constructive feedback always blamed the system.
That's why we envisioned the leaver penalty to be fools gold, because it cured a symptom, not the illness. And hey, now we're back to 1-2 PVP threads per day. After all, the glorified changes expectedly didn't work out.
Additionally Mod3 made it worse with the leaderboard and the fact that leaving now counts as a loss towards matchmaking. Which means, players that just want to grind glory or do the campaign can create fast losses every 30 minutes to get easy matches when they actually play.
Fun times.