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PvP Pots being used more frequently

demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2014 in PvE Discussion
Is it just me or are there more matches where someone or an entire team are using those pvp pots?
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  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    gotta get their leaderboard ranking
  • vedran541vedran541 Member Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    yeah, thanks alot meldanen
  • proneificationproneification Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 494 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    Is it just me or are there more matches where someone or an entire team are using those pvp pots?

    Gotta like it when they still lose :)
  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    What pvp pots?
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    benskix2 wrote: »
    What pvp pots?

    Any common, uncommon, rare pots/elixirs/heroic feasts that give you a stat advantage. There are tons and tons of them and it gets pretty expensive to keep potting up especially if you do a lot of PVP
  • lisaxxiilisaxxii Member Posts: 207 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    PvP pots are the purple potions that heal you. Everyone has always used those.

    Elixirs are what you are talking about I think. They were never really used in PvP before. Now all the new comers to PvP are using them to try and get an advantage, so now all the mainstream PvPers are forced to use them also.
    Enemy Team
  • kuskusgilakuskusgila Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 42
    edited May 2014
    Good day for elixir business indeed
  • forumnamesarelamforumnamesarelam Member Posts: 126 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    lisaxxii wrote: »
    PvP pots are the purple potions that heal you. Everyone has always used those.

    Elixirs are what you are talking about I think. They were never really used in PvP before. Now all the new comers to PvP are using them to try and get an advantage, so now all the mainstream PvPers are forced to use them also.

    I hope that's what he's talking about, because if not... sheesh.

    What else are you going to spend your glory on if not the pvp potions? I'm pretty much constantly capped on my character and it's one of my pet peeves that there isn't a decent glory sink around.
  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    my alts have been liking this elixir business
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I hope that's what he's talking about, because if not... sheesh.

    What else are you going to spend your glory on if not the pvp potions? I'm pretty much constantly capped on my character and it's one of my pet peeves that there isn't a decent glory sink around.

    The real irony of this would be people thinking that it is wrong to use what is meant to be used in your favor in the first place.

    What is this supposed to be? A doping test?

    Coming up Next: "Unfair and Dirty Practices of Two~Three People Focusing One Target", Details at 9:00

    :rolleyes:
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    The real irony of this would be people thinking that it is wrong to use what is meant to be used in your favor in the first place.

    What is this supposed to be? A doping test?

    Coming up Next: "Unfair and Dirty Practices of Two~Three People Focusing One Target", Details at 9:00

    :rolleyes:

    i just believe that if you needed to pot in order to kill someone, then you didn't really win on your own.

    but the real issue is when gwf's/permas are constantly chugging them. they are already hard to kill and the pots pretty much guarantees they won't die without being focused.

    focus-firing is actually a necessity though
  • spike0337spike0337 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    If it's the pvp pot you buy with glory it's because when the pvp gear came out ppl was save glory to buy the new gear.Now ppl have the new gear so there back to buying pots again.Back before then new pvp gear came out every1 used them so nothing new there.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    spike0337 wrote: »
    If it's the pvp pot you buy with glory it's because when the pvp gear came out ppl was save glory to buy the new gear.Now ppl have the new gear so there back to buying pots again.Back before then new pvp gear came out every1 used them so nothing new there.

    Nope. We are talking about elixirs etc
  • ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    i just believe that if you needed to pot in order to kill someone, then you didn't really win on your own.

    this can be said about any item or enchantment, it doesn't really prove anything... I could say the same thing about P.Vorpal, r10s and even classes... :|
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    this can be said about any item or enchantment, it doesn't really prove anything... I could say the same thing about P.Vorpal, r10s and even classes... :|

    And also companions in open world pvp by that logic
  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    this can be said about any item or enchantment, it doesn't really prove anything... I could say the same thing about P.Vorpal, r10s and even classes... :|

    a gear discrepancy can be annoying, but it's not always the end of the world.

    and despite how much i hate the new gwf's and permas on my rogue (although i can kill them if i completely change my encounters just for those permas), it's far easier to deal with those 2 classes on my dps cleric ironically.
    And also companions in open world pvp by that logic

    wizards deserve to complain more about that than i do xD
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    wizards deserve to complain more about that than i do xD

    I'm not complaining. I'm merely stating that companions in open world are merely a more transparent arms-race. Most people are ignorant to the occurrence of arms-race in regular PVP through elixirs/pots/pets/altars/foods
  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    i just believe that if you needed to pot in order to kill someone, then you didn't really win on your own.

    Then only people with the exact same gear, enchantments, boons and buffs are valid fights. If you have even a small difference between your stats you didn't win on your own.

    Ridiculous.

    PvP is, was, and always has been an arms race.
  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Then only people with the exact same gear, enchantments, boons and buffs are valid fights. If you have even a small difference between your stats you didn't win on your own.

    Ridiculous.

    PvP is, was, and always has been an arms race.

    just so u know, it's the other guy who brought up gear. i only care about the pvp pots. you can continue to go on about gear but that's not something i care about.
  • skylher12skylher12 Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    i just believe that if you needed to pot in order to kill someone, then you didn't really win on your own.

    but the real issue is when gwf's/permas are constantly chugging them. they are already hard to kill and the pots pretty much guarantees they won't die without being focused.

    focus-firing is actually a necessity though


    what kind of logic is that... thats like saying if you needed rank 10's or perfect bilethorn/vorpals then you didnt really win on your own.

    pots are there for all to have same as enchants.. so i dont see the problem of using them at all
  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    skylher12 wrote: »
    what kind of logic is that... thats like saying if you needed rank 10's or perfect bilethorn/vorpals then you didnt really win on your own.

    pots are there for all to have same as enchants.. so i dont see the problem of using them at all

    if that's what everyone thinks then oh well. and yet premades say nobody dies and now i know part of the reason behind that.

    edit: funnily enough i wonder if everyone knows i am talking about the glory pots that heal you
  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    If they keep giving me peridots in my coffers of wonderous enchantments I may start buying these myself lol.
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    if that's what everyone thinks then oh well. and yet premades say nobody dies and now i know part of the reason behind that.

    edit: funnily enough i wonder if everyone knows i am talking about the glory pots that heal you

    Try it.

    Potions don't save you from a situation where a TR screwed up. It may provide a certain amount of advantage in a 1vs1, but its main use is for healing up in between combat. When actually in combat, the potion doesn't heal you strong enough to save you from even one good DPS hounding you. Heck, even Bloodcrystal Raven Skull + Potion give you what, maybe an extra 3 seconds to live? when being focused by just two good DPS classes.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Seriously, you're complaining about a potion that heals 5k over 5 seconds and goes on a 2 minute cooldown?
  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    Try it.

    Potions don't save you from a situation where a TR screwed up. It may provide a certain amount of advantage in a 1vs1, but its main use is for healing up in between combat. When actually in combat, the potion doesn't heal you strong enough to save you from even one good DPS hounding you. Heck, even Bloodcrystal Raven Skull + Potion give you what, maybe an extra 3 seconds to live? when being focused by just two good DPS classes.

    and that's what i meant. those 2 classes/builds can survive 1 person long enough with those pots that they are near guaranteed to not die. permas may be squishy, but still able to outlast anyone that can't cc them b4 they restealth. then they come back at full hp a 8 seconds later.
    benskix2 wrote: »
    Seriously, you're complaining about a potion that heals 5k over 5 seconds and goes on a 2 minute cooldown?

    pretty sure it's more frequent than that
  • metaplexusmetaplexus Member Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    pretty sure it's more frequent than that

    They actually have a 2 minutes cd. I don't mind people using them. The most annoying ones are indeed the TRs, but as I mainly pvp with my cleric, I tend to use a lot of them, so why shouldn't others?

    Also I don't think the overall usage has grown lately. Not any statistics to show, though.
  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The only time I don't use a healing potion when it's not on cooldown and my health isn't full is when I know I will be out of combat long enough to regen it anyways or a landscape potion is nearby. If you like pvp you will eventually have nothing else to do with your glory but buy health potions and salvage gear.

    A health potion is barely noticeable when someone uses it in combat though, if you are seeing someone's health refill fast enough to notice it's probably an artifact and not a potion.
  • adamy2004adamy2004 Member Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    this can be said about any item or enchantment, it doesn't really prove anything... I could say the same thing about P.Vorpal, r10s and even classes... :|

    you are absolutely wrong, there is a difference between enchants that costs millions of ADs and are permanent upgrades versus elixirs which push you far over what is possible which just base gear. each elixir is like 2 r10s
    Don't waste my time.
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    adamy2004 wrote: »
    you are absolutely wrong, there is a difference between enchants that costs millions of ADs and are permanent upgrades versus elixirs which push you far over what is possible which just base gear. each elixir is like 2 r10s

    ...which can be bought for free, even from level 5 or something, by invoking everyday to receive coins.

    So what's the probem here?
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I assume those who criticize the use of potions, don't use Sissy Forge as well?

    I'm sure requiring two lives to take down one person would be just as problematic.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
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