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The first PvP Domination match after the update...
mehguy138
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...I played versus full geared 5 man premade with 9k GS teammates. What's your experience?
M6 almost drains your soul given how boring it is. (c) joocycuzzzzzz
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Probably will see more undergeared players trying to gear up.
it seemed way out of line...I was pugging with 1 friend, we have high GS, and prob a better than average ELO...we would get matched with the same kind of people, people from well known pvp guilds--against pure undergeared NO TENACITY pugs...I actually felt bad at how fast they were dying, we weren't potting or anything....
After about 5 matches we got a team that more matched us.
Someone had said that the ELO system was reset....I didn't search to see if this was true.
I didnt bother doing another match at the time.
I guess somebody really hates Mages and loves Rangers in the dev team, as Rangers were already extremely deadly and most popular class and now they got "DPS oriented" paragon path. Remains to be seen what that does to the class...
They really should take the "Controller" out of the name of the Mages, as currently it is the worst controller class in the game when playing pvp.
Interesting, as half-profound, half-indomitable GF, I hate CWs the most, only second to dps-built TRs. CW will freeze me to ground and somehow this freeze seems to last ages. When I start moving again, they levitate me. Then I drop down and they freeze me again and by that time there's already half of their gang on me. Then then they finish me with knife and I'm dead.
Edit: I don't mean to be negative at all, it's game and it's entertaining. When I am prepared and I catch CW unprepared and I crit, then I single chain CW down as well, so it's fair.
Trick to OBLITERATE such mages are i know sounds counter intuitive, but block little as possible AND make it your mission to block the Ray of Frost , he usually will initiate with Chill Strike or Ice Rays , Entangling Force and then some more beams followed by repel or eventually a Shard. Once you learn those casting signals its a complete cakewalk.
Tenacity Who? Versus GF Master means nada.
I am agreement that people shouldn't be multi controlled without any chance of retaliation, but when you cant even do one control thats a issue. Instead of allowing pets/tenacity they shouldve just given everyone a 2 second immunity after each control effect.. these wouldve benefited every class and stopped the GFS/GWFs from doing the prone chaining to victory as well.
but naw.. just allow massive conceptual coding ect ect.. to really screw up the class core mechanics of everyone.. dont even get me started on DCs, my other main class.. ouch.
The funny thing is I don't think the CC nerf ever effected GWF or GF prone chains. I imagine it would have been hard for them to modify the "getting up" animation to appear faster. I think a small immunity to prone after being proned (not interupt, confuse, stun, repel, etc) would have solved this. You should still take the damage though.
My first match I had was a full team of 8-10k GS people too but luckily the other team wasn't amazing, other than 2 of them with perfect vorpals it was still a pug. I did actually get a 1v1 against one person in one of the times I got owned and beat him but I allowed him to have his team get him up because I respect premade groups that allow 1v1's to take place.
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The only thing that annoys me to death is if you're got killed and respawned immediately, you'll still be in combat and forced to run on foot.
Feel good. And you should do the same lol.
You just know how to kill them.
With a rogue you have to know how to find them if he is a perma. With a well geared smart HR try to use big hits, I can be 3 shotted especially by a GWF's combo with a CW dailying me at the same time I'm dead before I get up. Just opt for the biggest burst damage you can get on a HR and use lots of CC as HR has no resistance to CC like GWF or TR.
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Suddenly dragged back into the mix with utterly clueless people... can't carry them all by myself.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
Match 1 - One player quit the team after 3 minutes. A second DC'd after 5 minutes. What was left of us were camping by the 8th minute. I collected 625 points (0 kills, 5 deaths, 1 assist, two caps). We amassed 1 kill vs their 17. So yeah, unbalanced for the win. We also had 2 DCs, one of whom was 8k and still had greens. The enemy had 2 GWFs, 1 TR, 1 CW and a DC and I'm guessing it was a premade because of their individual strength and group organisation. I recognised 2 of the guilds on their team and associate them with well geared and good players from previous experience.
Match 2 - Was competitive at the start, then we split them up after I backcapped. With 2 nodes held and mid contested they were caught alone and were easily beatable. We won 1000 - 298.
Match 3 - Rough start, but again I managed to backcap and forced them to split up. When grouped 3 or more they were better than us, but split up we could handle them. We won 1000 - 814. This party had one of the tankiest CWs I've ever fought. He even got brave and tanked my GF on mid. I think we finished 1-2 (1 kill for me, 2 for him) in our battles. He was responsible for half of my deaths.
4 games in a row I'm getting 6k GS teammate.
And thanks for overbuffing GWF, I already got hit with 18k IBS's and 11k Takedowns as a 46% DR cleric.
I dropped from 3d page to 13th after 5 matches. Good job, Cryptic, you outdone yourself.
Er, actually it would simply stop over time.
This experience has taught me that despite how people complained so much, the ELO really did work. Like I've mentioned in my post, I am constantly amazed to realize that these troubled experiences of mixed-up teams with the ratings being reset... is exactly the same as what we use to have in mod2 PvP before the big PvP patch.
I thought ELO wasn't working to well... but now I have to admit, PvP after ELO is leaps and bounds better than the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> we used to have without ELO. With the new leaderboards and stuff, while everyone's ratings start to stabilize after 30~50 matches, I expect things to become significantly better.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
I certainly hope so because it has always been a pain for me and i fight through the timer even when everyone has quit.
Let's say there are mixed feedbacks. Quite a lot of folks that had well surpassed your 50 game threshold are thinking that the ELO is either completely off or toned down to a point that it's not really relevant. In PUGs, it's one stomp after another. You camp out losses because matchmaking will provide you with an easy win eventually. I heard it's working a bit better for premades, hooray for them I guess.
What shifted is the pool of people that benefit the most from the system, the situation for the entirety is still a bloody mess. With the introduction of leaderboards and the PVP campaign, nobody has any incentive to be a team player any longer. And *drum roll* leaving now counts as a loss towards matchmaking. That's exactly what glory grinders needed to get their stuff cheap.
And I like it so much. Before, if you're got killed, no one would resurrect you, it was easier and faster just to release. No one was taking down enemies either. This is kinda positive side of PvP campaign.
You can also be a ******bag and click release just before someone's gonna press F and take you down.
I've always pressed F immediately upon death to deny my slayer the joys of stomping me. Also, it gets me back in the fight sooner. I only hang around if my allies are close by.
Besides the balance issue in levels, there is also an issue in class balance. Yesterday as a cleric I got paired with another cleric plus... three ranged classes! We clarics ended up healing ourselves at b2 while the ranged guys were doing their sniping stuff.
I think there should be a sticky thread about the weidest PUG teams issued by the queue system.
Same and also the fact that you must run for long time after the combat has ended or you made one shot help for ally in middle travel by mount. All this basically plays for the tanks and already formiddable GWFs who are already able to intercept my rank 3 mount on foot, knock me down and keep me there without ability to do anything as they can repeat the knock before I can get on my feet and blink.
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Don't wanna sound rude, but there is really something wrong with your build, as what I have seen with the players who really can play GWF is that even if I can hang them, they drop down in 0.5-1 second later and the freeze last about same. Also any battle with rightly built GWF last ages even with DPS CW as any time you are able to get him down on health, which takes a long time, he just uses potions or artifacts and I must start over, where CW goes down really fast once he is on the ground and this is why everybody of worth concentrates on CWs first, which doesn't really make playing that CW any more attractive either...
PS. What I have been talking with people, even some GWF players think that some of the builds are quite broken as they can steamroll any single char and even keep their own long time against groups, holding all or most of enemies busy while rest of their team takes the bases.