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Why are many rank 6's so unually cheap on AH?
ianthewizard2012
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Many rank 6's sell for only 4K~8K on AH. That price is unusually low. The sellers' names don't look like bot names. Even bots need to use blue Mark of Potency to upgrade, and that mark costs 20K each. Any idea?
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Rank 8s cost 200k
Nobody makes Rank 6s with Marks anymore.
Huge bot activity in the 5 to 6 bracket.
If Cryptic wanted to reduce deflation, they would make Marks of Potency unavailable from nodes or chests.
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which would hurt the legit players.
Which would come to no surprise. We are already at a point where earning a solid amount of AD through farming is very hard and/or time consuming and thus not worthwhile. I completely stopped and make my money solely through the AH.
Meanwhile, bots continue to farm and so enchantments and peridot prices keep going down.
I dont know why cryptic hasn't done anything when you say the same guy with a level 8 character (yes I checked) post 1000x peridots, 1000x rank 5 enchants, 1000x rank 5 runestones on the auction house
WTB Class Reroll please
there is abnormally a huge amount of players leaving the game
Most players either quit or have put the game on hold. Bots keep farming enchants but they have less and less customers. Naturally, all enchants are gonna be cheaper.
Cryptic seems to have just let these bots do as they wish as evidenced by the continual supply of enchants and the continual inflation
Correction: Farmers hurt legitimate sellers.
This is a buyer's market at the moment. Enchants have never been cheaper, there's tons of supply and more and more coming into the market. It's actually a great time to gear up a toon or possibly buy enchantments for a future character (Warlock or Druid, perhaps?).
There's no reason to speculate how they do it. Let's just say no one is sitting at their computer 24-7 clicking buttons.
All Cryptic needs to do is remove Marks of Potency from nodes and chests and prices will naturally inflate again.
Mind you, they can still be found in lockboxes. But we won't see the strong deflation we currently have.
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I like the prices too. Getting an Artifact to 99 has never been easier or cheaper. I think farmers really are a necessary evil. Lots of pros, lots of cons, but your average player really needs them.
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I disagree. In most free to play games, people who don't buy game currency with real money depend on farming in order to build up their characters. The botters seriously devalue the items you can get from farming, forcing legitimate free players to farm for longer and longer hours in order to keep up with the cash shoppers. Keep in mind that enchantments are not the only thing being farmed. Other things, such as AD from dailies being farmed can change the AD to zen ratio, which I think is partially responsible for the current upward trend of the ZAX. The other factor, is Gold sellers (who get their income from illegitimate farming) who also decrease the supply of Zen, by allowing players to get AD without introducing new zen into the game. The combination of these makes the grind longer and longer for free players.
To summarize, the enchantment situation hurts only legitmate sellers, exactly like you said. The thing is that free players tend to be the sellers while cash shoppers tend to be the buyers. True, with these farmers, a greater portion of the population can max out their enchantments and artifacts, but an even greater portion gets stuck without companions and mounts.
Agreed with this post. Botters have taken away another farming option namely enchants which in turn have taken away yet another playstyle. Different playstyles, different options, valuable loot dropping from chests are all integral to a lot of new and casual players along with RPers.
I'm 100% F2P and am doing just fine AD-wise. Anyone can get Epic Mounts or Companions without much effort. There are far more ways than running dungeons to get AD.
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I do... >.> but only if I have a ward.
I tend to believe they weren't produced by botters because I see no reason that botters would want to sell upgraded rank 6's for only 4K~8K AD each when they can simply sell the more profitable refining stone (MoP) for 20K AD each. But now something confuses me, there are identical sellers who posted a large amount of consignments of the same rank 6 enchantments.
But I also do not believe that.
I think rank 4s and 5s and peridots are mostly from botters. They lowered the standard for enchant pricing so the higher up enchants from players opening boxes also had to lower their price
Look at their names. No player would name their character sdfsfdsfsfsfdsfsfsdfsdfsdfsfsdfsfsdfsdfsdf
Also, if that were a player playing the market, wouldn't they buy low and sell high? Not come up with stack after stack after stack of enchantments and lowering the price each week?
^This.
Nobody with a bit of reason would use MoP to make r6/r7 items ATM, because they are worth FAR less than MoPs (a blue MoP currently sells for 21-22k, most r6 enchantments are in the 5-10k range) so we know that can't be true.
All the r6/r7 probably come from lockbox stuff, the iron strongbox drops very well compared to its current price on AH (1-2 blue MoP or 1 purple MoP, plus some r6-r7 or refining stones, for 50k AD or so), chances are people are bulk opening them for marks and just sell the extra stuff for some quick AD (to buy more strongboxes).
Maybe. Wouldn't it be better just to sell the mark? Well, possibly.
Keep in mind, mass farmers have to move just that... a mass amount of items. It's now common to see stacks of Rank 7 (99) items in the AH. Those items may move faster (albeit cheaper), that way. In the long run, they make more money selling items faster than they do selling items longer at the retail price, if that makes sense.
Regardless, enjoy the prices.
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