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Guardian fighter and pve
alexgabriel23
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 276
delete this class from game and replace with a wizzard similar with tons of dmg and CC
it has no purpose and no use to play im sick of trying to grp for something where ppl only want to play with bugs or only CW
it has no purpose and no use to play im sick of trying to grp for something where ppl only want to play with bugs or only CW
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i know this as fact because its happened to me alot even though i was helping out someone else on the team.
i love the GF its a good class its the other class the cw that is broken which is what makes it feel pointless.
hope the devs will do something about this class and nerf CW and GWF in pve so this class can have a future , i dont care about pvp the reason this class is so ... left behind is pvp
And nerfing CWs and GWFs isn't what is needed. What is needed is reworking of the dungeons. Less trash and more elites that cannot be CC'd. Bosses and elites also need to hit harder and do it more frequently. Doing this will make a GF necessary.
To be fair to PVP, Mod 1 & Mod 2 were all PVE, introducing Sharandar and Dread Ring along with two new dungeons and new PVE gear. PVP has been heavily neglected. Aside from the recent introduction of Tenacity and match-making, PVP hasn't had much.
I must also point out the "PVP patch" also improved two of the GF's encounters; Anvil of Doom and Griffon's Wrath now fire much faster to the point that Anvil is now part of my PVP rotation. We've been crying for animations to be sped up a bit and they obliged. Now hopefully they look at our dailies, as I get proned or killed too often while trying to use a daily.
- All balance is being done around PvP. Bloody obvious.
- New gear is PvP oriented.
- Content is PvP.
- Zero tuning of the dungeons in the last 3? 6? months. I am not complaining that they haven't got it right. I am complaining they are not even trying.
Guardian Fighters are not vital to keeping group members alive in any way, shape, or form.
Of course they don't. When I stop to chat in channel or talk a minute with my wife, the rest of the group goes on like nothing happens. Yeah, they don't realize, ignorant pricks.
Sharandar and Dread Ring are not PVP though. Both also introduced new sets for each class as well as boons and artifacts that benefit both PVP and PVE. Gauntlgrym is both PVE & PVP.
The new PVP gear came in with a ''small'' update, not even a full module that introduced new PVP maps (Hotenow and Rivenscar for what, a year?). Icewind, like Gauntlgrym, is both PVE & PVP. I ran it last night and was involved in a 20-man fight against NPCs. Players from both factions fighting alongside one another. Was awesome. Yes, there are also flagged areas where you can PVP, but there are very much co-op PVE elements to it.
I will agree that PVP QQing and subsequent balancing is harming classes in PVE, but to be fair PVP has been very much second fiddle to PVE.
they are not anymore... they are replaced by GWF they are tanky too they can hold aggro too due the treathning rush or daring shout + they deal the highest dmg in game even more then a cw because "deepgash" thats their secret .... so basicaly go anywhere with 2x gwf and 2x cw and faceroll urself into everythig especialy vt .....
R.I.P guardian fighter has no point in this game and dont give me arguments like pvp cuz im not even intersted in pvp
LMAO! Ay I was kinda thinking that xD!!
This thread is called "Guardian Fighter and PvE" and you show up saying how amazing you were in this pvp match... -.-
My main character is a GF, and I love it (of course! it is my PG). Whenever i open a post on the GF class, I can mostrly read only comments like "GF useless", or "GF <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>", or "GF erase it" and similar claims. These comments are not constructive at all, and if you just need to steam out your stress go out with your partner or go to the gym. The fact that GFs are useless is only your personal opinion, probably because you are CWs or GWFs, and it is not an objective fact! If you do not like GFs, go to play other classes and comment on the posts of your own class. You want to claim that you do not need GFs in this game, but WE - GFs - do not need your <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>! Go *****ing somewhere else!
I play all 6 classes, I know for a fact that despite being to take slightly more damage than other classes, that counts towards nothing when the enemies hit as hard as they do in Heroic Encounters.
Surely a GF can try to survive the enemies, but against more than 3 of those tough ones with large hitpoints, its unlikely to take down any of them because you the GF simply does not do enough DPS, and if he is to survive taking damage, he is deprived of actually doing damage to the enemies most of the time.
None of the other classes have this problem, not even the DC, because it has extremely powerful AOE spikes and debuffs. IWD clearly demonstrates how the GF has been left way behind the other classes in terms of progression with each new module update.
I want to like the GF in IWD honestly, but really, it's just a liability.
I'm not sure what you're doing, then. I had been soloing all of the HEs barring the Big Giant Angry Fire Worm(tm) one for a while on my GF before I noticed that they were actually intended for groups. It was equally easy in my PvE or PvP gear. I am not a miraculous player, and I did nothing special- just the obvious minimum "well, duh" tactic of picking the squishiest targets first, focussing them down to reduce incoming DPS, rinse and repeat.
Yes, I kill a little more slowly than on my GWF (to say the least), but it's far from challenging.
(Also, note that my GF isn't even Conq specced, so my DPS really is dire).
Now, were you claiming that they were pointless and gimped in dungeons, I might sympathise and agree. However, HEs? If you are finding that "its unlikely to take down any of them" (sic), then you're doing something wrong.
(No, my gear is nothing special either.. my PvE gear is just Timeless filled with cheap R7s)
If dungeons, you mean gimped DPS wise, i would agree as well, though it's actually easier for my tank to go up against adds indefinitely without a DC in most dungeons. Perhaps I'm simply more used to dungeons, but they do hit for less there.
So the problem is that you cannot solo the encounters with a GF? I am really disappointed of you becasue NO CLASS IS MEANT TO SOLO end-game content. You do not bother playing solo in an MMO, you play to stay with other players. Else, you should play sigle player games like Skyrim, Dragon Age and similars..
Are you serious? nothing in your argument is constructive, you just claim that GF is the most useless class. So what are you doing about it? you are just complaining, can you see that?
A constructive argument includes explanations, descriptions, the many ways you can get the best out of your class, and TEACHING others something that they did not know! For instance, do you know that you can put just 1 point on Combat superiority when you have the 5th rank of tactical superiority? Do you know that Crushing pin procs with Trample the fallen? This is constructive, and it helps the community to get the best of ANY class.
I feel the same for Wimpazoid. I do not have all these problems he has with his GF.
So what are my problems? The fact that I have failed a 2-3 player HE? The thing you mentioned no one is supposed to do alone? But yet it isn't your problem?
If you take it as meaning GF is the most useless class, that is your inference, not mine. I have expressed, that the GF is in no way par with being effective in IWD as the other classes, and it is not just a DPS issue, a GF can't simply dodge and sustain DPS at the same time, and yet simply withstanding damage has a limit on the number of opponents which exceeded, does not allow the GF to effectively kill them off without external dps, which unfortunately while the GF can survive a higher limit of adds, several DPS classes can survive handling the limit of no return for the GF and eliminate the adds before they can ever pose a problem.
Hell yea! Give the GF diversity to change his entire play.
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