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Why do you have vote kick in pug CTA?
irked01
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I que for CTA I get in I get kicked because there is always 3-4 lvl 60's that do not seem to want a lowbie..... WHY put lowbies with 60's and give them the access to kick you?
Pleaqse fix for next CTA
Pleaqse fix for next CTA
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The votekick needs to stay. The level of the participants needs to be hidden. If one isn't helping, one needs to leave the team. (Not saying you weren't, but sometimes just because one can enter an instance, it doesn't mean one should.) Kicking just for low-level is ignorant and rude. Kicking for holding back the party is a different matter, and may or may not relate to level.
Especially during skirmish hour. The common objective during skirmish hour is to do as many as possible, as each one is 1K AD. Most players aren't going to want to lose AD so that a slowbie can take a slim chance at winning a so-so pet.
Roland Mac Sheonin GF | Tarron Direheart SW |
Out of the 100's of pug CTA's I've run this event, about 2 or 3 have been without stress. Level has nothing to do with it, what's surprising me most is the amount of level 60 characters that really just don't have a clue, be it, purposely doing nothing to blag their way through or just not knowing how to play their class in the slightest.
A level 36 TR should not, under any circumstances, being doing 2-3 times more damage than level 60 GWFs, CWs and HRs. You would not believe how many times this happens, infact, I've not run, in 100's of runs, atleast one where I've done more for that CTA run that atleast one level 60 dps char.
This immediately leads me to literally start asking "you guy's bots?" Sadly, it's not always the case, most never reply, you know how social pugging is. Pugging is the fastest way, and most convenient for me, thats why I do it.
I've kicked alot of players during CTA, mostly due to inactivity, just trying to sit it out and let everyone else do the work. Players that don't pull their weight, I'm not harsh with this, but if a level 60 CW is doing the least damage with lower level chars in the party and their only contribution is to teleport into mobs, and drag them every where, then come to a group of melee characters and use ****ing pushbacks, yeh, you're booted.
I understand people want to experience all the skirmish has to offer but let's face it, once you've done it once, it's a monotonous job, purely to gather the tokens on offer, and the companion, yet people are continously running it in the most ridiculous of ways. This has nothing to do with power play but for the love of god READ THE OBJECTIVES OF THE SKIRMISH! Every run, multiple players are going directly to the random spawning smaller mobs and wasting far too long fighting them, then when they realise no one else is, they drag them to one of the actual objectives causing mayhem.
So again, read the objectives. There are 4 primary targets, go directly to one of these as a group, if a level 60 goes immediately off on their own to one of these, leave them to it, they are indicating they can solo it with ease, just take the rest of the group to the nearest point (directly on your right is a good start) it cuts out pulling all the mobs and random spawning mobs in the centre, which, for some reason, everyone seems to go directly for.
Honestly peeps, it ain't rocket science.
I've initiated 1 kick the entire CTA for the same reason , I have no problem running with low level players but at least try to do something to contribute .
I -think- when players run something like this the first few times, they tend to follow the sparklies... which lead right through those rotters.
They see people veer off to one side, and maybe assume that or those players just want to solo something. I'll play it any way the team wants to play it. Just as long as the team is a team, and is all on the same page.
Of course I basically try to do premade teams during skirmish hour. After the first day, I don't generally do these outside of skirm-hour, unless some mates ask me to fill a slot on the team.
Roland Mac Sheonin GF | Tarron Direheart SW |
Hell I managed to top the DPS over a 60 CW once...
What a bunch of doggie bags.
Damage scaling in CTA is fairly bizarre and tends to place low level players high on the charts, although I've mostly only seen this when all players were dealing in AoE, or when comparing a lowbie TR and a 60 TR.
That said, when my level 60 Tactician GF gets second in Paingiver, over somebody else's level 60 who-knows-what-build GWF, something has gone awry. But it was an incredibly smooth and painless run, so I guess maybe my husband and I were carrying that group (*his* GWF was #1).
I go into these things with no expectations and just try to follow the group. I'm not farming, but I have been doing two runs per character for those that have never done it because this CTA counts towards those old Rhix dailies I keep in my journal for just such an occasion.
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Damage scaling probably - low-level clerics DPS is actually pretty good compared to other classes (or used to be) and when scaled...
Alternatively perhaps the other players were low level and didn't have access to their full set of powers?
Roland Mac Sheonin GF | Tarron Direheart SW |
Ultimately, if you're in all level 45 blues at level 45 and there's a level 60 in level 50 greens, you've got a big advantage on them because of the scaling. If there's a level 60 in T2 gear with rank 8s and perfect enchant, you're going to be a second stringer because their mobs are scaled the same as that undergeared 60s are.
Well lucky you, i've done CTA only on my main and yeah i've seen kicks with the reason "lvl 11" and even though i declined the lowbe always got kicked.
Just another reason to hide players levels in scaling content.
Of course it won't stop them kicking a cleric that doesn't astral shield or a cw who doesnt cast a singularity because they don't have those yet...
Roland Mac Sheonin GF | Tarron Direheart SW |
CTA is accessible and manageable by all levels, so vote kicking in there is just... plain lame.
I farmed my paingiver during the previous CTA event on my cleric too. Can't complain about the title but now i just don't use the awful public queue anymore. It's like having all the worst players in the game just coming into my instances every time.
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when you initiate a vote kick, you have to enter a reason to initiate it. if there is any character in the party that is just sitting in the spawn area, you need to be either fighting with the rest of the team or you're eligible for a vote kick as far as i'm concerned. understandably, things happen in real life and people might have to step away from their computers but there is no penalty for getting kicked early on in a CtA skirmish. you just have to re-queue when you are back from whatever took you away from the computer.
if someone is trying to initiate a vote kick on someone after all the fighting is over, that's a different story altogether.
People will kick for just about ANY reason.
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While peoples reasons can be wrong and/or malicious I think the feature should stay.
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I was also in a CTA where someone was kicked for being a GF. "GFs are too slow".
Both kicks went through.
I'm paingiver as a cleric with 60s too. CWs can't out damage me.
I saw that too,
I was like... oh come on, he's a newbie, no need for that
This is so easy we can frigging solo it at our level we don't need a full team of overgeared 60s to burn though this... do you have to rook the newbies for something that's not even their fault?
I'm pretty sure I saw level 6s in the first CTA on opening night. It's always been 6-60 for them.