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ggyu
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So Yep You Fixed Castle never bugs and all of that stuff ?
But didn't you notice that it cannot be done by normal ways at all ?
I mean it say it need 9200 GS to enter but only 15000 GS People with perfect Vorpal can do it ?
And By the way Still The awesome wings of Dragon can keep knock back with high damage the immune Players!
So except fixing bugs only, You can fix mobs spam at the final boss ?
And the idea of spamming 5 Unhollowed mobs and 5 wizards and 10 mobs every 2 min ? with dragon that wings can keep knock back immune people and high damage attacks.
So please Fix that spam of mobs or decrease numbers ._.
But didn't you notice that it cannot be done by normal ways at all ?
I mean it say it need 9200 GS to enter but only 15000 GS People with perfect Vorpal can do it ?
And By the way Still The awesome wings of Dragon can keep knock back with high damage the immune Players!
So except fixing bugs only, You can fix mobs spam at the final boss ?
And the idea of spamming 5 Unhollowed mobs and 5 wizards and 10 mobs every 2 min ? with dragon that wings can keep knock back immune people and high damage attacks.
So please Fix that spam of mobs or decrease numbers ._.
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even 15k+ team cant help u if u do not play it with cw stacked team
10.5k - 11k GS is more than enough if you know what you're doing.
Depends on the class composition of the party sadly......
Rofl, not sure if srs.
On topic: Agree about the knockback OP. I did it with my brother who's a GWF earlier and Draco sent him flying despite being in unstoppable. He even did that when he used the Avalanche of Steel daily, wtf.
One of the many Control Wizards that misses Shard Of The Endless Avalanche. RIP Shard (Beta-Mod3)
Show me video with that please!
I would like to see that plan that can fight spam mobs with high damage and dragon
Oh yes, that is true
Just go on youtube or twitch
Yep I saw some old videos and All I see using same bugs but except throw all mobs they throw only weak mobs and leave the unhollowed and wizard ones.
Notice need TR for the dragon job ? More like GWF,GF Go back to your side of been not in CN again.
It is true that back prior to the expansions the average gear score clearing it was not 15k it was averageing about 11k-12k parties.
So it can obviously be done with a party of that gear score 11-12k. Below that it might get a little tough though.
Agree agree But in less case TOS Can any type of Party with 2 of 5 12k+ Can still do it though it's heal is over limit for real, But as for CN Dragon something else and people saying you need party compilation that mean 1 thing for sure unbalanced forced played classes for dungs and farm which is unfair for other classes.
So its not 15k gs anymore? You've moved the scale down to 12k gs?
Now, its easier at 15k+ avg party with perfects and 2 CWs and OP GWF? obviously, but those players had to farm their gear too.
Ok this players had to farm their gear ? Hmmm you mean by old bugged way ? So the new players got no chance to get there stuff from CN like other old farm players ?
and full buff and debuff mode that mean 3 Cw and 1 TR ( Since GF and GWF get higher agrro and no hide stats for them ) in same party ? So what the different from old days ?
Ah... to gearing up... you can go full T2, fomorian fabled/dreal legion set (btw way better than Ancient, base damage is all that matters in weapons, as you will reach diminishing returns in all the stats sooner than later) and rank 7 in all slots in about 30 hours of play avg, (unless you're farla and fail to get your off hand in hundreds of runs) with the boons of both modules and that gear you will sit in 15k... in a game where getting OVERGERARED for all content requires you the almighty work of playing 1 hour a day for a month... i dont think you can complain about how hard is any content here, sure, getting perfect weapon/armor enchants and rank 9s-10s plus 3 rank 80+ artifacts cost a lot more work, but the difference between those players and the rank 7 ones is not the few more stats... is the freaking experience and skill, they have been playing for a lot longer, ffs i can carry as a GF any random queue pug thorough T2 instances (and i do it for fun once or twice a week) and ive been successful on ToS for example (to cite one that seems hard for random pugs) with 2 TR, HR,DC setup... so complain less and play more.
Poor farla
SSSShhhhhhhhh.
If you keep telling everyone, then I lose the easiest way to differentiate between posters who know what they are talking about and those whose posts aren't worth the (digital) space they are written on.
Anyway 15k is a bit high for an estimate of what it takes to do CN now. 12K is pretty easily doable, but as others have said 2 or 3 CWs are really useful until you get to silly GS levels.
off topic but i cant stand to it...3-4 FrarII is getting drunk tonight in a very dwarflike way
If a party is not equipped with minimum of greater weapon enchants i don't think they have much chance @ CN full run.
There was bunch of times when my party had control on adds on last boss but the Draco HP was going down slow,and the longer the fight goes the more red will show up on floor,more red means people panic and do mistakes....so yeah you can do CN with 12k gs and keep CC but if you dont have greater or perfect weapon enchant to give you the extra edge imho the party has small chances of making it alive ^^
Also I never did CN with GF, It was always a party with minimum of 2 CWs...
About youtube CN videos...all I see is over geared people that don't need much of a skill to complete what they are doing,lets face it when you are over geared there is no in game content that will break you a sweat doing it. Anyway it would be fun to see a video of a party with 10~12k gs and lesser weapon enchants going into CN...
Same thing is with VT, people say you dont need good dps for VT all you need to do is close the caskets...just lol @those people
In the past, teams would defeat Draco by bumping the adds over the rails. Pretty much nobody attempted a direct kill-all-the-adds strategy. So yeah, if you're going to do that, then gear doesn't really matter. All you need are 2 CWs who know how to work together to bump adds. (Not to mention the Astral Shield stacking trick.) So the argument that "12k teams did it in the past, so a 12k team of today should be able to do it" is disingenuous because the strategy for the final fight is a lot different now (a lot harder).
And yes gear does matter, because it really isn't possible to perpetually control the adds the whole time, you have to actually kill the adds. If your DPS is too low, then you can't do it because you will be just overrun with adds. So yeah I think greater weapon enchants is more or less a minimum requirement.
Also keep in mind that you are unlikely to get lots of great advice here on the forums because CN is the only farmable dungeon and the current CN farmers don't want the competition.
Admittedly there is truth to this.
After the CW control powers and active point gains Nerf on CWs, what used to be only ONE control wizard necessary in party to nowadays needing 3 to accomplish the same is noted.
The tactics may have changed, as well as optimal group requirements and multiple CW parties due to the AoE requirements to complete, but it can be done.