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Decreased glory for winning is a failure
barq3t
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 165 Bounty Hunter
It is faster way to gain glory by giving up at the begining and losing the match in 5 min, than actually fighting for 20+ and wining. I can see ppl in PvP who just as soon as they get 500 points, hide somewhere or run in circles and wait for pvp to end (Especialy when theres like 2 gwfs in other team).
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Well s***. I think you are right. Thank you for posting it on the forums for everyone to copy and do
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Its 500 not 600 for win. You have to win 1 match really to get 500, rhix will give u it even for lost game. After this it is better to give up and lose 20 games than fight and win 5...
Three matches per character per day vs farming glory at length on any given day. Math is hard.
600 or more during the pvp event.
And he won.
Edit: As stated above! :cool:
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Yeah, has been stated over and over again that the leaver thing will just shift, because the underlying problems are unsolved. So here we are... predictably.
Still not quite simple to do, since people could Always exploit the bonus and arrange a match just to get more glory.
Still, longer matches should grant more glory.
PvP looks more fun. Much more fun. People can fight longer, and only when focused 2v1 or more you get taken down fast. Even when losing a match, people can fight and kill enemies, which makes the matches less frustrating for the losing side.
Can and must be improved, but i think it's promising.
GWFs now can be taken down faster and easier than before if they are not really good at evading/ using sprint. 2v1 i'd say it's much better. Where a GWF could regenerate a lot and win a 2v1-3v1 fight, now he can buy time and may be kill 1 enemy if he's lucky. Which is good.
Some classes still need a buff. DCs seem to need some love.
Of course a GWF saying that. I win matches and this isnt fun at all. And GWF's are more overpowered than ever. Full set with tenacity and still getting proned constantly. WTG Cryptic.
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amazing that anyone take a sample size that small and call it predictability. i call it anecdotal. :P
I wonder if there isn't some way that they can time how long you are in the campfire area , once you have been there say 30 seconds you get teleported to the arena directly under the spawn point or something?
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I would also like to see on the Character Sheet your PvP ranking, because ti's my score and I'd like to know where I stand using 1000 as that starting point and going up and down from there. This would help with ranking and it may already be being done, but I'd like to see my score for bragging rights, just like GS.
lol same here I was like wtf is this.
Agreed. I already predict it would happen since that is what I would do if I am stuck with a bunch of loser team and I am not on my TR/GWF i will just sit at spawn and do nothing lol.
They are no better then a actual leaver, since they already set them apart from the game, that is why I think there should be a surrender vote system if there is a leaver penalty.
Not sure what you are talking about. I used to get 700+ glory for winning during non PVP event and 1200-1500 during. The once a day bonus doesn't even come close to making up for the current loss. I used to get like 10-12K a day when I was farming glory.
Longer matches giving bonus glory will only lead to (bad) exploits: let's trade nodes for 30 mins running around like chickens. No thanks. I've been offered too many times by team members to trade caps to get a measly amount of extra glory. Since I always ruin the plan/decline, i'm sometimes, if not often, insulted.
Max rewards for a 15 minutes matches should be taken as an incentive to get the job done asap, improving your play style, play more aggressively, cap more aggressively, chase people running to your flags without any delay, etc.
Post-patch, 15-20min game win gives me 200-500 glory. Loss gives me 100-200.
In fact, here's a couple side by sides. First is a 9m win. Second is a 21m loss.
The decrease in glory coupled with the (generally) longer games is just insulting.
EDIT: @diogene0. If the game is under 15 mins in length, it's because you're facerolling the opposition and the matchmaking system has given you a bad match. I've had games where we've won 1000:100ish and they still lasted over 20-25mins because we won via steady attrition of points.
And I know what i'm talking about.
Pre patch:Red team being steamrolled. Someone leaves. Quick 7 minute match, mostly spent running around not to be caught and kicked by the anti bot program. 300 glory, 400 during the event. If your team didn't ragequit that is. You need at least 3-4 attempts to find a match someone on your team won't leave.
Now: 15 minutes matches, and I get 450, +500 from the battlemaster, I had fun, and if I do another successful 15 minutes match, I get another 450 (from map) +500 glory from rhix. That's 2k glory for 30 minutes of pvp (maybe a bit more with 2 mins waiting times).
The morale of the story is: don't suck. If your match lasts 20+ minutes you're doing something wrong. If you can't farm glory all day long, well, it's because the devs chose to reward daily but casual pvp playing.
15 min matches or less r pretty much fighting a team that isn't gonna win unless they get really lucky. pre-patch, i have had 20-30 min matches where everyone fought tooth and nail for that 700-1000 glory, but now it's more like being penalized for the good matches.
pvp is not supposed to be all about a couple matches daily. it's something people do for dozens of matches every day to have some fun. trying to turn everything into a daily campaign like sharandar just ruins the fun a bit.
So you mean pvp should be designed around people playing it 6h a day? Well, that kind of posts ruins the entire thread imo. This isn't gonna happen. Ever.
The fact of the matter is that if ELO works as intended and you are a half-way decent PvPer, you will eventually end up in properly competitive games. These are unlikely to be quick 15 minute affairs.
in 45 mins you can get decent glory if you win, but... losing a bunch straight getting enough points to get glory, is FASTER
Quests aside, since they dont net ANYTHING more than once.
the point is, they reduced the glory per match, they made the matches almost 5x as long.
Thats kinda crappy.