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fantasycharacter
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You made it per character and not per account, so I just leave when I like and queue up a different character.:(
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I expected account dodges but not character dodges.
This would hurt the players that actually invested their money to have 1 account with 10 toons, whereas the other players that did not buy account upgrades and have 5 accounts with 2 toons each would not suffer.
I don't get that logic ... sorry.
haha, i guess it will get changed in the future.
makes sense, but how to control people so they only have 1 account.
maybe the logging out and relog into the game again with a different account isn`t worth the effort the time it takes and people just stay, do nothing and sit out the match so it gets over soon.
The fact that you leave and queue up on a different character is what is wrong with this playerbase. It disgusts me. This playerbase is toxic, not with standard griefers and trolls but with poor attitudes that can't stand losing. I honestly don't know if this game can survive it's players.
This is prevalent in any MMO right now. If they do not leave they sit there and complain about how everyone other then them is doing sooo horrible. I have seen this in at least four other MMO's. It is all the same. Usually the person complaining is the cause of the loss.
So maybe this is what is killing all MMO's.
And before you try there is absolutely no justification for leaving a match. Ever.
Sometimes you're going to have a bad match.
Everybody else shouldn't be punished for what boils down to your attitude.
Why is someone allowed to leave a dungeon but not a PvP event?
Afaik a ToS run can be done in 15 minutes, same time as a PvP match. Do you vote to crucify dungeon leavers as well?
Yes
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Campers actually annoy me more than leavers. They have the exact same effect on the quality of the match and still get to pick up any rewards that might accumulate through the efforts of others.
The biggest impact on leavers will be if the ELO system produces well-balanced matches. I do PvP as much for enjoyment and a change of pace from grinding as for the rewards, so win or lose if the match is fun I won't be leaving.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
If you disconnect log back in. That bug should've been resolved as well.
There is no justification to right-click your name and say I don't care about the rest of the party, I am out of here.
Disconnecting is a completely separate matter from leaving.
On the bttom of the Elo ladder they can, with their 16k PvE gear, welcome the fresh level 60 5.7k players and annihilate them into oblivion. Good plan! I like that!
Except they'll move up very quickly once they've done that once or twice. To game an Elo system takes quite a lot of effort and the sort of people that enjoy griefing are usually not the sort of people willing to put that effort in. Give the new system time to bed in.
Leaving is any action, be it voluntarily or not, that removes you as a resource from the team. Not only the "Leave party" button.
Collateral damage. There are many analogies that could be made, each that get a little farther afield philosophically, but what it comes down to is that you hit the innocent for the greater good.
To get rid of people who disco for faster farming the solution is simple: Stop giving rewards for PvP. Players who have fun playing PvP will play PvP regardless of rewards. Problem solved.
Also, your brain is a learning machine. Even in unfair conditions, or especially, you will learn to play better by pushing your boundries and getting out of your comfort zone. All giving up does is make you not get better.
The counter argument to that is, maybe you should only queue when you're reasonably certain of being able to complete a match. Of course Real Life has to take precedent and there are occasions when leaving is unavoidable, but in those situations, a cooldown leaver penalty isn't going to affect you is it? I don't see the problem here.
However, the new matchmaking system should alleviate this issue over time.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
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This too. Is all I have to say.
Leavers are the shameful. Period.
In many of these cases a leaver penalty will not have any negative effect on the person leaving, nor will it deter said person from leaving, as you point out. Other times however, it can. For example, if you have a 10 min incoming phone call, and later want to join another match. You are now blocked from playing, and there is no way you could have predicted that you would have that incoming phone call when you did, unless you can foretell the future. I would probably just switch to another game at point.
Well, lowering the glory for losing certainly isn't going to make people want to stay more than they did before this patch.
Disagree 100% I'm married with Children real life calls sometimes you got to go. If my toddler gets into something sorry I'm out of the match just the way it is (on a side note I rarely play PvP as result well that and I don't like it but still my statement stands)
There is the carrot and then there is the stick. I don't understand why they refuse to go with the carrot approach. Let folks get more glory than they used to for losing, then people will stick it out.
The way it is now if you are on a losing team and getting annihilated, it's just like 5 people holding a kid down taking turns giving him a wedgie. Why would you expect anyone to just stand there and WANT to be abused?