That is up to you. We will update the profanity filter and publish all the quests that failed due to profanity filter during the next non-emergency patch. If you do not want to wait, you can work around it in your quests and click "publish" yourself.
I'm guessing, is tomorrow (12/10/2013) the next non-emergency patch?
If not, when will it be?
NWS-DLXTNXRF2 - Angeline von Stein NWS-DOVA9JIJV - The Lost Seneschal NW-DT3221YUY - The Wildcross Bride
They stated openly before that the Foundry authors and players will not be charged at any point because it drives authors away.
Ya, they are doing a mighty fine job of driving Authors away already with their lack of attention to the Foundry, crappy integration into the main gameplay and just general feeling amongst the Authors that they just plain don't care all that much about supporting the Foundry outside of using it as a selling point.
The Foundry forums used to be hopping. Now...its a near ghost town.
Ya, they are doing a mighty fine job of driving Authors away already with their lack of attention to the Foundry, crappy integration into the main gameplay and just general feeling amongst the Authors that they just plain don't care all that much about supporting the Foundry outside of using it as a selling point.
The Foundry forums used to be hopping. Now...its a near ghost town.
Is that the fault of the devs, or the fault of authors so concerned about getting plays for their own quests that they ignore threads asking for help or advertising other quests?
Is that the fault of the devs, or the fault of authors so concerned about getting plays for their own quests that they ignore threads asking for help or advertising other quests?
It's the fault of the Devs... Unless they have fixed the bugs in the listings of foundry quests. Just my opinion tho. And look at the profanity filter debacle. This is the second time it has happened. And if you believe Ambisinisterr about 900k Being black listed because of one movie??? That is just crazy.
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ambisinisterrMember, Neverwinter ModeratorPosts: 10,462Community Moderator
And if you believe Ambisinisterr about 900k Being black listed because of one movie??? That is just crazy.
It is not filtered because of the movie, it is filtered because it is a racial slur.
The movie just happens to use it several times per scene on average.
It may not be a racial slur you are familiar with but it is still a racial slur.
Imagine that the numbers kind of look like letters. Maybe it starts with a lowercase G.
It's a real thing, unfortunately.
lol! OK, I'm with you. It kind of changes the whole word though. May as well ban everything. Book... now swap the k for a b hehe! I still don't buy that it is supposed to be a band word.
Perhaps the profanity filter should be desensitized to profanities in OTHER languages rather than the localized or configured language?!? "ni que" is profane in FRENCH not Spanish.
*facepalm*
Perhaps the profanity filter should be desensitized to profanities in OTHER languages rather than the localized or configured language?!? "ni que" is profane in FRENCH not Spanish.
*facepalm*
I guess if we can set the foundry in spanish language, there will not be this issues. But we have the predefined configured language that is English.
I don't need/want the game to be translated to spanish, but perhaps will be a good idea to have the option "to flag" the quest as spanish, so we don't bother english users that only seeks english quests.
NWS-DLXTNXRF2 - Angeline von Stein NWS-DOVA9JIJV - The Lost Seneschal NW-DT3221YUY - The Wildcross Bride
I guess if we can set the foundry in spanish language, there will not be this issues. But we have the predefined configured language that is English.
I don't need/want the game to be translated to spanish, but perhaps will be a good idea to have the option "to flag" the quest as spanish, so we don't bother english users that only seeks english quests.
Yes - right in the Quest tab when creating/editing a quest there is a dropdown to set the language.
The profanity filter is really really really stupid.
I can say profane things without using bad words. I can say good things while using (some) bad words.
There's a report function for a reason -- there is no need for an automatic filter, and an automatic filter that includes many words with a normal usage is just... well, stupid.
It seems to me that Foundry doesn't have clear 'ownership' within Cryptic, which doesn't bode well for it ever righting itself. sigh
Campaign: The Fenwick Cycle NWS-DKR9GB7KH
Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?
Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?
Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
It is not filtered because of the movie, it is filtered because it is a racial slur.
The movie just happens to use it several times per scene on average.
It may not be a racial slur you are familiar with but it is still a racial slur.
Sorry, but I don't get on these forums very often...
But can you please tell me where you get the info that 900k is a racial slur. I can find nothing anywhere about this.
Sweet Water and Light Laughter Till Next We Meet.
Narayan
sphecidaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 95
edited January 2014
I went back in to update a quest today, and there's something profane in a dialogue that was perfectly fine before. I haven't found the word yet and will rewrite the whole thing, I guess.
"Listen, you imbecile, everyone knows that Heroganthus read the incantation backwards and blamed the resulting debacle on his servant! You obviously didn't study the Enchiridion closely enough. I suggest a more thorough reading - we carry a translation in the shop."
It's not "imbecile" or "debacle." I changed "we carry it in the shop" to get rid of the ridiculous t word, but that didn't help.
Could it be "backwards????" Nope... still looking.
It's not "servant." *sigh*
Aha! It was "imbecile!" The first time I deleted the word, the warning didn't go away. I could not use the word "cretin" in its place. This is just bizarre. Perhaps "numbskull" will work...
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> should be allowed!! Everything poops. And when you potty train your toddler, you call it poopy! Or poo... And what is the best weapon against princesses?! Poo on a stick! Witches hate it, trolls are distracted by it, Gnolls and orcs will taste it... 1001 uses.
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
edited January 2014
There's a good argument there for Foundry filtering and chat filtering to be separate. Fine, block people from calling each other imbeciles in game-chat, whatever. Stifling character-appropriate dialogue as a result? Not so good.
Yeah, I tried to use the word 'prick'. As in, "with which to prick your finger". No dice. Prick is certainly used, in some contexts, as a derogatory remark. But it's no where near a racial slur, and is not even close to profane. That's like filtering dongle (not that it's likely to be used) because it sounds funny.
i know the initial reason for this thread has been fixed, however the continued discussion of filtered words in the foundry on the open forums is definitely questionable.
if a word that you don't think should be filtered in the foundry IS, please submit an in-game bug report.
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I'm guessing, is tomorrow (12/10/2013) the next non-emergency patch?
If not, when will it be?
NWS-DOVA9JIJV - The Lost Seneschal
NW-DT3221YUY - The Wildcross Bride
Foundry Grand Master.
Ya, they are doing a mighty fine job of driving Authors away already with their lack of attention to the Foundry, crappy integration into the main gameplay and just general feeling amongst the Authors that they just plain don't care all that much about supporting the Foundry outside of using it as a selling point.
The Foundry forums used to be hopping. Now...its a near ghost town.
Is that the fault of the devs, or the fault of authors so concerned about getting plays for their own quests that they ignore threads asking for help or advertising other quests?
It's the fault of the Devs... Unless they have fixed the bugs in the listings of foundry quests. Just my opinion tho. And look at the profanity filter debacle. This is the second time it has happened. And if you believe Ambisinisterr about 900k Being black listed because of one movie??? That is just crazy.
Narayan
It is not filtered because of the movie, it is filtered because it is a racial slur.
The movie just happens to use it several times per scene on average.
It may not be a racial slur you are familiar with but it is still a racial slur.
Was about to say the same. I'm not buying into it. Not having heard of it is one thing, not being able to find even one reference is another.
It's a real thing, unfortunately.
lol! OK, I'm with you. It kind of changes the whole word though. May as well ban everything. Book... now swap the k for a b hehe! I still don't buy that it is supposed to be a band word.
NWS-DOVA9JIJV - The Lost Seneschal
NW-DT3221YUY - The Wildcross Bride
Foundry Grand Master.
I was able to change this words, and re-publish the campaign, but will be difficult to change "debiles" for other words in some phrases and context.
NWS-DOVA9JIJV - The Lost Seneschal
NW-DT3221YUY - The Wildcross Bride
Foundry Grand Master.
*facepalm*
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I guess if we can set the foundry in spanish language, there will not be this issues. But we have the predefined configured language that is English.
I don't need/want the game to be translated to spanish, but perhaps will be a good idea to have the option "to flag" the quest as spanish, so we don't bother english users that only seeks english quests.
NWS-DOVA9JIJV - The Lost Seneschal
NW-DT3221YUY - The Wildcross Bride
Foundry Grand Master.
Yes - right in the Quest tab when creating/editing a quest there is a dropdown to set the language.
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
NWS-DOVA9JIJV - The Lost Seneschal
NW-DT3221YUY - The Wildcross Bride
Foundry Grand Master.
I can say profane things without using bad words. I can say good things while using (some) bad words.
There's a report function for a reason -- there is no need for an automatic filter, and an automatic filter that includes many words with a normal usage is just... well, stupid.
It seems to me that Foundry doesn't have clear 'ownership' within Cryptic, which doesn't bode well for it ever righting itself. sigh
Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?
Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?
Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
Sorry, but I don't get on these forums very often...
But can you please tell me where you get the info that 900k is a racial slur. I can find nothing anywhere about this.
Narayan
That's what I said, but apparently it can be read as another word that starts with a g instead of a nine.
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
"Listen, you imbecile, everyone knows that Heroganthus read the incantation backwards and blamed the resulting debacle on his servant! You obviously didn't study the Enchiridion closely enough. I suggest a more thorough reading - we carry a translation in the shop."
It's not "imbecile" or "debacle." I changed "we carry it in the shop" to get rid of the ridiculous t word, but that didn't help.
Could it be "backwards????" Nope... still looking.
It's not "servant." *sigh*
Aha! It was "imbecile!" The first time I deleted the word, the warning didn't go away. I could not use the word "cretin" in its place. This is just bizarre. Perhaps "numbskull" will work...
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> should be allowed!! Everything poops. And when you potty train your toddler, you call it poopy! Or poo... And what is the best weapon against princesses?! Poo on a stick! Witches hate it, trolls are distracted by it, Gnolls and orcs will taste it... 1001 uses.
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