Kasenpoint's Hunter Ranger Endgame/Hybrid Build

kasen420 · December 2013

I didn't know that! That sounds awesome.

This is still a new class as you know, so i haven't figured out everything. but i like to think this build is a great start. Yours is too!

ikeepit3hunna · December 2013

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kasen420 · December 2013

ikeepit3hunna wrote: »

@ikeepit3hunna. I'll be online in 1-2 hours

Can't seem to find you. Add me? @kasen420

obsidiancran3 · December 2013

kasen420 wrote: »

i put in the build that i do use aspect of the serpent. quite often. thats probably my favorite passive.

You don't even have a point in Serpent according to your pictures and you even quoted your class features section which makes no mention of it at all.

kasen420 · December 2013

obsidiancran3 wrote: »

You don't even have a point in Serpent according to your pictures and you even quoted your class features section which makes no mention of it at all.

Ah, you're absolutely right. I was confused i thought you were talking about aspect of the falcon.
By hybrid i mean that it is not specialized for one specific facet of the game. It aims at excelling equally in PvE and PvP.
In order to do that, after much testing on the preview shard was to go full archery and only use melee mode to buff your party. Much more damage can be achieved through doing this. I do not enjoy the melee and i do not think it provides the DPS that you need to be an asset to your team. I apologize for the confusion.

didyoucthat · December 2013

I would say this is a build for people focused on helping others not so much for DPS. If you use a combo of your melee and ranged abilities you do quite a bit of damage and since you can literally jump in on a group of 5 people blow everything and leap 100 yards away to safety with 6 dodges there is no reason to try and make your life rough attempting to go all melee or ranged your using half your class and boy do I love when I see these full ranged hunters they fall over.

kasen420 · December 2013

didyoucthat wrote: »

I would say this is a build for people focused on helping others not so much for DPS. If you use a combo of your melee and ranged abilities you do quite a bit of damage and since you can literally jump in on a group of 5 people blow everything and leap 100 yards away to safety with 6 dodges there is no reason to try and make your life rough attempting to go all melee or ranged your using half your class and boy do I love when I see these full ranged hunters they fall over.

I appreciate your input but i respectfully disagree. In terms of maximizing damage in both PvE and PvP archery is just the way to go. If you were shooting for strictly PvP i would tell you to spec into combat as well, but to get the most out of both archery excels. You do way more damage with a full archery tree in terms of both, than you do with a half & half archery/combat. I have tested this.

kasen420 · December 2013

didyoucthat wrote: »

I would say this is a build for people focused on helping others not so much for DPS. If you use a combo of your melee and ranged abilities you do quite a bit of damage and since you can literally jump in on a group of 5 people blow everything and leap 100 yards away to safety with 6 dodges there is no reason to try and make your life rough attempting to go all melee or ranged your using half your class and boy do I love when I see these full ranged hunters they fall over.

Also, you're not wasting half of your class because if you notice the encounters that i use in melee are buff encounters. You're maximizing your parties damage, while maximizing your own. Its a win win. Thank you for your input though

obsidiancran3 · December 2013

Ah hence the confusion hybrid has been used extensively on the forum to mean equal amounts of melee and ranged for dps; this is an Archery build.

Why no Disrupting Shot/Stormstep?
A daily that stuns, does good damage and uses 25% of your AP and a class feature that takes 3s off your cooldowns makes a good combination. Plus see voltomey's comments about Stormstep + Forest Ghost.

kasen420 · December 2013

obsidiancran3 wrote: »

Ah hence the confusion hybrid has been used extensively on the forum to mean equal amounts of melee and ranged for dps; this is an Archery build.

Why no Disrupting Shot/Stormstep?
A daily that stuns, does good damage and uses 25% of your AP and a class feature that takes 3s off your cooldowns makes a good combination. Plus see voltomey's comments about Stormstep + Forest Ghost.

How has it been used extensively on the forums for that? There are classes that dont have any melee? There are hybrid cw and dc guides. hybrid means it is made for PvE as well as PvP. and Disrupting Shot is great but Seismic Shot and Forest Ghost are just too important to me to use it. Stormstep is also nice but i find that having twice the rotation as other classes due to have individual cooldowns on melee and ranged that by the time i finish my rotation my powers are already cooled down. They cool down as fast as i need them and thats why recovery is not as nearly important with this class as say a TR. thanks for the input.

kasen420 · December 2013

obsidiancran3 wrote: »

Ah hence the confusion hybrid has been used extensively on the forum to mean equal amounts of melee and ranged for dps; this is an Archery build.

Why no Disrupting Shot/Stormstep?
A daily that stuns, does good damage and uses 25% of your AP and a class feature that takes 3s off your cooldowns makes a good combination. Plus see voltomey's comments about Stormstep + Forest Ghost.

Plus with the Royal Guards set your cooldown is 30% faster anyway. Just seems like a waste :X

voltomey · December 2013

kasen420 wrote: »

Plus with the Royal Guards set your cooldown is 30% faster anyway. Just seems like a waste :X

I agree with this if your a Hybrid Ranger Recovery Royal guard and Feats like agile Hunter will be enough for CD management. But if your a Purly Ranged Archer and only switch to melee to Buff your self Storm-step/Twin-blade Storm and Forest Ghost+Disrupting will allow you to go even harder on dps and with the incoming nerf to MoA my archer will be leaning to Grand warden Set now so i will need assured CD management and not a percentage chance.

nishijou · December 2013

People over the forums are saying not to get Electric Shot, but I'm dying to know what it looks like via a video or something before I decide myself. Yet your build has it maxed. What's your opinion on it. I currently like to use Split as the main and Aimed as my 2ndary.

kasen420 · December 2013

voltomey wrote: »

I agree with this if your a Hybrid Ranger Recovery Royal guard and Feats like agile Hunter will be enough for CD management. But if your a Purly Ranged Archer and only switch to melee to Buff your self Storm-step/Twin-blade Storm and Forest Ghost+Disrupting will allow you to go even harder on dps and with the incoming nerf to MoA my archer will be leaning to Grand warden Set now so i will need assured CD management and not a percentage chance.

Yes, sad to say but this build will pretty much be obsolete when they nerf that.

I just am not a fan of Disrupting Shot. I love the CC of Seismic.

kasen420 · December 2013

nishijou wrote: »

People over the forums are saying not to get Electric Shot, but I'm dying to know what it looks like via a video or something before I decide myself. Yet your build has it maxed. What's your opinion on it. I currently like to use Split as the main and Aimed as my 2ndary.

I really wanted to love electric shot. But it just wasn't doing aoe damage like split shot was. Dungeons are basically you just spamming split shot haha. I would definitely put points into something other than Electric Shot. Like disruptive or stormstep.

voltomey · December 2013

kasen420 wrote: »

Yes, sad to say but this build will pretty much be obsolete when they nerf that. I just am not a fan of Disrupting Shot. I love the CC of Seismic.

I don't use disrupting either forest ghost is just better and i am usually to busy to try rupting boss attacks

obsidiancran3 · December 2013

kasen420 wrote: »

Yes, sad to say but this build will pretty much be obsolete when they nerf that. I just am not a fan of Disrupting Shot. I love the CC of Seismic.

That's why you have Seismic, Ghost and Disruptive at 3/3 so you can choose the right combination for the situation. Because sometimes a stun and interrupt is far better than a push and sometimes its the otherway around. (Also Ghost isn't always needed.)

kasen420 · December 2013

voltomey wrote: »

I don't use disrupting either forest ghost is just better and i am usually to busy to try rupting boss attacks

voltomey, what do you think about a Wise Ranger build? Its something i've been wanting to try. Get incredibly high wisdom strictly for the purpose of having all that crit. then you wouldn't have to stack as much crit, nor armor pen because our armor stacks so much of it anyway. that would leave a lot of stats to devote towards life steal/deflect/regen

voltomey · December 2013

kasen420 wrote: »

voltomey, what do you think about a Wise Ranger build? Its something i've been wanting to try. Get incredibly high wisdom strictly for the purpose of having all that crit. then you wouldn't have to stack as much crit, nor armor pen because our armor stacks so much of it anyway. that would leave a lot of stats to devote towards life steal/deflect/regen

If you gonna reroll a ranger roll with a 18 wis 18 dex Build that should do the trick its easy for us to stack Armor pen to easy if you ask me

kasen420 · December 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TbJhoxeWOM PvP compilation of this build. Thanks for your interest guys.

linkingirl86 · December 2013

Hi, I really liked your build, do you mind if I can add it to mmominds.com?

kasen420 · December 2013

not at all. go right ahead. link me once you've done it. as long as credit is given to me, i dont care at all.

linkingirl86 · December 2013

Thank you

Here is your post:
http://mmominds.com/2013/12/14/kasenpoints-hunter-ranger-endgamehybrid-build/

dreadnite · December 2013

is this a pvp only build? cause i do pvp but not a hardcore one, so is it good for pve as well?

kasen420 · December 2013

dreadnite wrote: »

is this a pvp only build? cause i do pvp but not a hardcore one, so is it good for pve as well?

it is used for both PvE and PvP alike. That is why i referred to it as a hybrid build.
like i said above though, due to the nerf to the master of archery feat this build's dps has been greatly reduced.

dreadnite · December 2013

okay cool been gone since beta so i need to catch up on new things lol

diablorf · December 2013

kasen420 wrote: »

it is used for both PvE and PvP alike. That is why i referred to it as a hybrid build.
like i said above though, due to the nerf to the master of archery feat this build's dps has been greatly reduced.

Hey kasen, any ideas about ur next build? Will it be pure raged or ranged/melee? Because I like to play a pure ranged class, but with this changes I think the only way is to go melee/ranged...(((

obsidiancran3 · December 2013

The reduction in DPS is not that significant tbh. Oh there is a clear reduction, you want just slot vorpal and allways top DPS charts now, but its not a complete lost cause.

grimah · December 2013

have to say, the power selections is all kinda bad. no fox cunning which is prob the best single target damage (melee), great versus boss fights. Also targets perma stealth rogues when they are nearby (depletes their stealth too as well as half their hp)

stormstep action and distruptive shot.... thats alot of damage gone by not using distruptive shot all the time (or most the time.)

I would post my hybrid build, and explainations/analysis but got enough to take care of with my wizard guide.

shadowslay9 · February 2014

Hey kasienpoint is this build still viable for the latest patch? If it isn't viable or needs tweaking what would you tweak regarding the latest patch? (gear, skills, ability score, feats, paragon, boons)

Kasenpoint's Hunter Ranger Endgame/Hybrid Build

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