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Eye of the Storm vs. Chilling Presence
borken69
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This is probably buried somewhere deep within another thread or 5, but why am I seeing so many people advocating CP over EotS? Based solely on my purely anecdotal evidence of farming dungeons with the same group, I see a fairly consistent 10% total damage increase with EotS. I'm using Plague Fire currently but I intend to switch to Vorpal.
Have numbers been crunched proving that CP is better?
Have numbers been crunched proving that CP is better?
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I choose Eye of the Storm because more crits = more damage and more AP gain.
Simple logic would say that if you crit without Eye of the Storm then Chilling Presence would have been better when you had crit. If you didn't crit and you don't have Eye of the Storm slotted, then it could be said that had you slotted Eye of the Storm, that normal hit might have been a crit... therefore at certain levels of critical chance, Chilling Presence will become more valuable.
Since I don't intend to pass well over 30% critical chance, I prefer Eye of the Storm.
Well, it depends on what you have slotted. I used to have CS on tab, Steal Time and Shield - three AoEs. Now with only Steal time as an encounter it's no longer worth it since Sudden Storm and CoI aren't classed as AoEs...
Btw, EF on tab is a waste of mastery slot.
If you switch SotEA for Sudden Storm, you will gain a lot of damage. Sudden Storm has a much lower cooldown and better damage than SotEA.
EF on mastery is not a waste, it provides a lot of AP gain on groups of mobs. I prefer CoI on mastery in general and Icy Rays on mastery for single target.
And sotea has greatly extended my survivability in dungeons. Sudden is just straight damage, and does not build high vizier stacks
I have enough AP to cast daily on every pack in malabog. SotEA, Sudden Storm, Steal Time and CoI mastery.
One cast of steal time will get you HV stacks, won't it?
SotEA is great. I just mean that Sudden Storm has more damage.
Lately I've been doing dungeons without using singularity, shield, or entangling force at all, and nobody has complained to me yet.
Perma singularity is not dead thats for sure! I have not touched shield since the patch but I am able to send out singularities along with the occasional oppressive force at a very good rate.
Again I'm running eye of the storm and storm spell.
Ef master and
Coi, SotEA, and steal time.
I also use chilling cloud and storm pillar as my at wills for most dungeon runs where there is not much opportunity for single target dps.
I use almost the same set up except:
CoI mastery
Steal Time, Icy Terrain, Sudden Storm
The same might be acceptable for you, but only if you're looking for a change. Could replace Icy Terrain with SotEA.
Since you use EF on mastery, it makes a standard CoI more effective because mobs are drawn in to the CoI... it's all about what works for the player.
TWICE?! Either you're running with 4x DCs or Exploiting the dragon at the end with you being the only CW dpsing it :P
That's why he overdps
Btw, best setup for malabog is 4 CW's and 1 DC. For other dungeons this setup best as well.
#facepalm #whygodwhy
Maybe im not playing with skilled cw but they always have better gear than I do.(by better gear higher enchants).
You'll have to excuse Kerrovitarra, that is just his opinion.
Check out the build in my sig on test server. Also check out Copticone's build. If you like Renegade, try out Grimah's build. I think that Kerro has a build too... Good luck.
haha thank you, I have seen all of these builds in the past so thank you and everyone else for the information!
I do not think I will be touching renegade but perhaps I will test it with the respec on the test server as well
Give it a try, it won't hurt u since it's preview server.
PS: I've 24 INT and 23 CHA
But, what is your base Critical Chance?
As for EotS, here are some numbers with 35% crit chance when i was doing testing earlier was just testing some spells, damage/hits/crit chance.
Storm Spell
170,359
97
27%
Conduit of Ice
167,704
110
67%
Conduit of Ice: Flank
126,998
70
74%
Magic Missile: Flank
117,002
74
69%
Magic Missile
77,751
50
74%
Steal Time: Flank
76,121
13
54%
Steal Time
61,988
8
100%
Storm Spell: Flank
53,717
23
78%
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Definitely true for Malbolg and CN. I haven't run any other instances since the patch, but I suspect its all "boss" category mobs.