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viledeeds77
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Alright so I ran a delve today with my guildies and after spending about an hour running this dungeon we kill the boss and loot the chest to find out nearly All of us were rewarded with Blue items?!? This is such a huge disappointment, and with the changes to end of dungeon loot being BoP I just had to voice my opinion and desire to see a change made to the loot. No it isn't to make everything BoE again, why ask cause it ain't happening.
I propose that every chest for the delve event always have a purple gear item ie; armor, weapon, off-hand, jewelry, ect. and Never a blue gear item. It was such a let down to run a pretty fun dungeon that was harder than I remember it being last time, I swear some mechanics were changed which was good, only to get slapped in the face with a crappy blue item! I'm talking about a blue item that wasn't even worth the effort to place it on the AH, it was straight up vendor trash. I was so let down and disheartened by that I logged out for a while. I am seriously thinking that I now have to weigh time spent vs. potential reward running delves now.
If we can only get certain items from the delve event chests and we spend the time running the dungeon at least give a purple item! It would be great to always get a piece that you want such as getting a choice between armor or jewelry, then from there if you choose armor you pick between the three sets. Jewelry can be the same too we can choose which piece we want, one with a defense slot, offense slot, or one that has certain stats you need.
For this game being a casual player friendly game it certainly makes you grind alot of things, which I can appreciate. Some things though we shouldn't have to grind endlessly for because by the time we finally get the item we want the dungeon is not fun anymore. I want to run the dungeon get the loot I need to Progress my character and still want to run it again later to help out a guildie, Not make it feel like a job and un-fun.
So dev's if you are reading this please consider making this a reality or something similar!
I propose that every chest for the delve event always have a purple gear item ie; armor, weapon, off-hand, jewelry, ect. and Never a blue gear item. It was such a let down to run a pretty fun dungeon that was harder than I remember it being last time, I swear some mechanics were changed which was good, only to get slapped in the face with a crappy blue item! I'm talking about a blue item that wasn't even worth the effort to place it on the AH, it was straight up vendor trash. I was so let down and disheartened by that I logged out for a while. I am seriously thinking that I now have to weigh time spent vs. potential reward running delves now.
If we can only get certain items from the delve event chests and we spend the time running the dungeon at least give a purple item! It would be great to always get a piece that you want such as getting a choice between armor or jewelry, then from there if you choose armor you pick between the three sets. Jewelry can be the same too we can choose which piece we want, one with a defense slot, offense slot, or one that has certain stats you need.
For this game being a casual player friendly game it certainly makes you grind alot of things, which I can appreciate. Some things though we shouldn't have to grind endlessly for because by the time we finally get the item we want the dungeon is not fun anymore. I want to run the dungeon get the loot I need to Progress my character and still want to run it again later to help out a guildie, Not make it feel like a job and un-fun.
So dev's if you are reading this please consider making this a reality or something similar!
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(Why create salvage system in the first place if not give those 6k ad for 1hour spent doing the dungeon?)
I dont understand. Concerning the progression feeling it went from a Ferrari to a wheelchair, seriously.
Im still learning the game mechanics here, apparently you can only get a loot chest during those silly little one hour time slots which are oddly spaced and terribly inconvenient , then if you are lucky to have time and the right people on you can get one dungeon in and get a handful of blues. Im all far mechanics to prevent massive farming and protecting the economy but this is a head scratcher to me.
I used to hate the locks that Warner Bro$/Turdbine put in Lotro, but now they seem to be the best thing since sliced bread after seeing the system in place here.
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We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Yes we ran an epic dungeon and all but one of us bagged some crappy blue items! This was a huge disappointment not just for me but everyone involved. As a result it has effected our want and desire to run epic delves only to be un-rewarded with items that I can buy on the Auction House for a few hundred AD.
I would love to hear a Dev weigh in on this for us with some response to our concerns...please?
I dont run T1 dungeons for sometime so im not 100% sure if the is the same loot rule for T1 and T2 dungeons.
If u dont mind me to ask u which dungeon were u running ??
I agree with your points, but thought I'd throw that out there.
The blue that I got was not BoP. I will continue to play this game because I do have fun but I have quit several MMO's due to a long arduous and bone wrenching grind being introduced into them. I Love D&D games, and D&D in general, I will continue to try my hand at delves but if I start seeing a pattern coming about that I feel like I'm jumping on a hamster wheel chasing a carrot I'll never reach, I will stop running delves altogether. I leveled my character to have fun, enjoy the game and the experience but at the end of that leveling arc, there should be balanced and fair endgame content and to have to endlessly grind for what I see as nessessary items to reach the actual endgame which is the challenging delves Tier 2 and CN is not fair and balanced. The entire design of the end game is to progress through the easier delves into the midrange difficulty, then the hard difficulty, but to progress we need to achieve something in each delve, not oh HAMSTER I didn't get it this time now I have to wait 4-5 hours before I can run it again to maybe get that item I need. That isn't progression that is gambling on if you get something useful or profitable. I just feel we should get purple items minimum.
TL;DR
Blue items should be restricted to heroic level delves, and Epic delves should drop Epic loot!
as it was people who didn't have a full suit of purples felt obligated to buy them and all other loot felt lame in comparison. so the idea is make blue the general loot type and make people have to do a whole insane campaign/grinding to get purpled up rather than just buy the outfit. the problem is
the loot is already out there and people aren't going to want to give their stuff up.
As for making Sharandar feel like an improvement, I see your point but to be able to acquire the gear needed to run T2's, CN, and MC we still need that purple gear so in my opinion they are gimping those of us who didn't spam one of each class to 60 in the first few days of open beta or live launch. It now not only feels challenging to run dungeons geared out with purples but near to impossible to get the required gear to run them now.
Devs are going to need to give players some actual incentive to run these DDs. A 5% chance or so of getting any time of Epic items is just not worth the time.
Most likely new 60's are PVPing or doing Gauntlgrym because it's the only worthwhile way to get T1 and T2 gear.
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Exactly my point! Epic Dungeons should give/ drop Epic Loot ALWAYS!
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I never got any T2 set items in DD chests after changes. Only random epics/blues. However, I did get to choose as per patch notes a set item from 2 T1 dungeons, forgot which. So it seems that the system sometimes work, and sometimes is broken, intentionally or not, I have no idea. Considering how much pain in the HAMSTER the T2 final boss fights are without exploiting, I'd say random HAMSTER for 3000 AD salvage/blue for 40 silvers it's a mockery.
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Biggest waste of time IMO,
-Pestilence
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Any feedback and suggestions are welcome please enjoy!
People were able to buy rather cheaply whole sets of PvE gear, many times without ever setting foot in the dungeons and immediately as they reached 60 - this being a bad thing.
To fix this, the devs introduced the changes we all know, and I thought their meaning was to make people run dungeons and earn their stuff the old MMO way, through drops/rewards. To make things even better, the devs even let us select the tier version we were after - great, yes? Reward people that finish the dungeon, no more selling and flooding the AH since they're BoP, so it's all cool.
Well yes, it's great, when tier actually drops, which rarely (if ever) happens for T2. Other than that, we still have all the tier items on the AH, with the exception that only the rich guys can buy now, and the items stay there and rot from what I saw, at their 750K+ AD posting prices.
Yeah, and the best way to make money is to run off the majority of your player base.
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I am really wondering if the new loot mechanic is working as intended or if there are some issues with it, as far as I understood it we would have our choice of loot and I have yet to actually have this choice be given to me in an Epic Delve.