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What to do when DD chests become BoP?

incogitableincogitable Member Posts: 28 Arc User
edited August 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
just finished Malabog's castle for the first time and it was a letdown an easy letdown :/. when the dd change hits what are people going to do who are already geared? run random dungeons for lols? farm cn/mc to the ground? there will be nothing to do, no incentive to run anything. this will be the death of this game.

You say its easier to get your armor of choice now? What about weapon/armor/ranked enchants? Pets/Pets items? Accessories/Dyes/Costumes?? Mounts??? List goes on and on of things that will be near impossible to achieve now unless you're P2W.

This update will basically kill off any reasonable way to make decent AD. It is designed that way to limit your income so that you are more allured to purchase zen.
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  • ott0madduxott0maddux Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 204 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    agree 100%
  • rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    LOL another doom and gloom. I have lots of fun with this game and have yet to do a single dungeon. I have 7 characters.
  • ott0madduxott0maddux Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 204 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    rhoric wrote: »
    LOL another doom and gloom. I have lots of fun with this game and have yet to do a single dungeon. I have 7 characters.

    Really, doing what? Oh are your 7 characters under level 10? Because all I can find to do is grind AD, and they are putting the kibosh on that. So what are you doing that is so fun except starting new toons?
  • rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I just take my time playing, run around exploring every area, take in the sights. I have 1 lvl 60 and the rest are between 25 and 47
  • dexymandexyman Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I'm reserving judgement until this goes live but I can see this becoming a game ending move for myself...i don't need any equipment and i don't enjoy any other aspect of the game apart from dungeon delves and a major part of that enjoyment is the prospect of getting a good drop from the chest which i can sell on the AH.

    I know there will be a salvage npc but that is only giving rough AD's and the big question is how much will it give you for a particular item. If its only a couple of thousand AD's then i'm done with the game.
  • meathook2099meathook2099 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Why is it that farmers always assume that everybody else plays the game just to farm?
    Play a game for fun?
    Run dungeons for fun?
    That's madness.
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  • dexymandexyman Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    who said anything about farming? I enjoy the DD's and the possiblity of a good drop from the chest..running a dungeon for an hour + and then selling my drop to an npc for a token amount is NOT fun for me. try reading posts rather than interpreting.
  • smurfjokerzsmurfjokerz Member Posts: 21
    edited August 2013
    i love the idea of it being BoP and being able to choose which stat allocation set can get. rather then just getting some random t1 item that i have no use for. i have yet to be able to get a single t2 item from a DD chest on any of my 3 lvl 60s. so i quit the game in frustration of not being able to get what i would like to, but now i can possibly get the gear i want rather then getting the gear i dont.
  • maiku217maiku217 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Salvage, do more runs. ezpz next.
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  • dexymandexyman Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    i love the idea of it being BoP and being able to choose which stat allocation set can get. rather then just getting some random t1 item that i have no use for. i have yet to be able to get a single t2 item from a DD chest on any of my 3 lvl 60s. so i quit the game in frustration of not being able to get what i would like to, but now i can possibly get the gear i want rather then getting the gear i dont.

    yeah and once you've got your t2 set then what?
  • fallenhawkfallenhawk Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    i love the idea of it being BoP and being able to choose which stat allocation set can get. rather then just getting some random t1 item that i have no use for. i have yet to be able to get a single t2 item from a DD chest on any of my 3 lvl 60s. so i quit the game in frustration of not being able to get what i would like to, but now i can possibly get the gear i want rather then getting the gear i dont.
    Well sell the items you do get and buy the item you need. Even if my some change you get the item you want next run you can sell it . Now with BoP you can't .
    dexyman wrote: »
    yeah and once you've got your t2 set then what?
    Sell it for AD and then use AD to buy Zen or just save it up.
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  • dexymandexyman Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Sell it for AD and then use AD to buy Zen or just save it up.[/QUOTE]

    yeah i don't think i'll spend an hour + running a dungeon for a couple of thousand ROUGH AD's.
  • mrsmonmrsmon Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    they should have done the "sell the gear to the salvager for the RRP listed in the auction house buyout thing" then it could be justified to sell t2 items for 10k AD. anything less than at leased 50k for t2 armour is a kick in the genitals
  • fallenhawkfallenhawk Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dexyman wrote: »
    yeah i don't think i'll spend an hour + running a dungeon for a couple of thousand ROUGH AD's.
    Not everthing well be BoP(IMHO bad, mojo jojo )like drop from bosses .
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  • badpanda69badpanda69 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Just the DD chest items will be BOP the items the boss mobs drop will not be BOP. Its being done to stop people making a huge amount of AD which would of ended up killing the game as no one would of been buying Zen. You can still farm for AD and convert these to zen but not as fast as you where able to do in the past.
  • satansnemesissatansnemesis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 67
    edited August 2013
    i love the idea of it being BoP and being able to choose which stat allocation set can get. rather then just getting some random t1 item that i have no use for. i have yet to be able to get a single t2 item from a DD chest on any of my 3 lvl 60s. so i quit the game in frustration of not being able to get what i would like to, but now i can possibly get the gear i want rather then getting the gear i dont.

    You do know that they didn't change anything about the drop rate, right? This is not a 100% guarantee you will get a T2 piece every time you open a chest. All this change does is allow you to chose which set your piece is from IF you get lucky enough to get one in your chest. Of course it will probably be harder to get to that chest because there is no reason for anyone to run that dungeon again after they got their armor piece. Less people will queue for the dungeon you need and you won't be getting much help from fully geared players because there is nothing in there for them anymore.
  • dexymandexyman Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    badpanda69 wrote: »
    Just the DD chest items will be BOP the items the boss mobs drop will not be BOP. Its being done to stop people making a huge amount of AD which would of ended up killing the game as no one would of been buying Zen. You can still farm for AD and convert these to zen but not as fast as you where able to do in the past.
    i'm fully aware of the bop chest and boss drop situation....but it really is a load of bs regarding how ppl make AD's...the real problem is ppl exploiting dd runs. case in point.. ppl are running all the way to the final boss in FH that means they can run it 3 or 4 times in an event. If you stop the exploiting then AH prices would rise signifcantly. by making dd chests bop you're killing a signifcant reason to run dungeons in DD event window.

    Its a badly thought out solution to the issue of over supply that is going to p*** off a lot of players imo.
  • incogitableincogitable Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    This update will basically kill off any reasonable way to make decent AD. It is designed that way to limit your income so that you are more allured to purchase zen.

    You say its easier to get your armor of choice now? What about weapon/armor/ranked enchants? Pets/Pets items? Accessories/Dyes/Costumes?? Mounts??? List goes on and on of things that will be near impossible to achieve now unless you're P2W.
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    fallenhawk wrote: »
    Not everthing well be BoP(IMHO bad, mojo jojo )like drop from bosses .

    This is true, but keep in mind.

    1. If it isn't your class, you cannot Need it.
    2. If the drop is a class not in party, you have a 20% chance of getting it.

    Great odds, huh?
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  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    1. If it isn't your class, you cannot Need it.

    Which mean that once geared people will only bother running those dungeons where the most expensive gear for their own class drops.....
  • faeriestormfaeriestorm Member Posts: 460 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    mconosrep wrote: »
    Which mean that once geared people will only bother running those dungeons where the most expensive gear for their own class drops.....

    Not sure if this always happens for every gear piece but I noticed need rolls becoming BoP last time I was playing.
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  • usernumber999usernumber999 Member Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    and i think of all those players who i once knew but have left the game who will return to check out feywild... only to find that the new gear ofers nothing to them, the expansion costs AD and gold to progress through, the dd chests have been made BoP, and they are essentialy capped at a 24k AD income/day. I know many were looking forward to it, but now have decided to not return. No forward progression - only lateral

    All Cryptic did was copy/paste existing content for the new feywild, while T3 and new pvp content is sorely needed. It's sad, lazy, and greedy.
  • tarmalentarmalen Member Posts: 1,020 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    You folks saying it is a good thing realize that it takes millions of AD to get enchants right? MILLIONS. Unless of course you want to play for 3 years for best enchants...at which time you will be about 5 modules behind and all that old gear you are sporting with those enchants are worth 10k to the salvager.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited August 2013
    I plan on not caring about Dungeon Delves as much and looking forward to doing dungeons more irregular times and farming for gear. The only thing is that I really think they need to step up to the plate and make "needed" items BoP to prevent players from needing to sell items.

    One of the most rediculous answers I have ever heard from a person in a dungeon is that he "needs AD" so he "needs" the items...
  • wuhsinwuhsin Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I plan on not caring about Dungeon Delves as much and looking forward to doing dungeons more irregular times and farming for gear. The only thing is that I really think they need to step up to the plate and make "needed" items BoP to prevent players from needing to sell items.

    One of the most rediculous answers I have ever heard from a person in a dungeon is that he "needs AD" so he "needs" the items...

    As someone who has played several MMO's exclusively as a merchant, I'm offended by your post. You dare call me ridiculous, and you can't even spell the word.
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  • fathomfulfathomful Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 207 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    I only play games for fun.

    For me that means i do not require compensation to do a dungeon.

    I will continue to have fun post expansion playing the game whether or not there is a reward in it for me.
  • allaerraallaerra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 838 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    I think the change is a huge mistake and will drastically reduce the number of people doing Dungeons. Time will tell.
  • nick1sternnick1stern Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 330 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    fathomful wrote: »
    I only play games for fun.

    For me that means i do not require compensation to do a dungeon.

    I will continue to have fun post expansion playing the game whether or not there is a reward in it for me.


    Wait what a concept a game as fun not another Job?
    That is what to many forget we play for fun a distraction that is the reward.
  • fathomfulfathomful Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 207 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    allaerra wrote: »
    I think the change is a huge mistake and will drastically reduce the number of people doing Dungeons. Time will tell.

    I think it will reduce, but it will be a good reduction.

    I mean it just feels backwards to refuse to play a game unless you get something for it.
    I mean i dont think i would ever say "no not going to play cards with you unless its for money".
    I would not ever tell my son "sorry not going to play catch with you unless there is something in it for me".

    The people that dont enjoy playing and are only playing for things will gravitate to something else and the player base remaining will be much more dedicated and less toxic.

    I would much rather run a dungeon with someone who wants to run the dungeon and have fun as opposed to someone who just wants to exploit their way to the end boss to get a piece of loot.

    The enjoyment is in the journey not the destination lol!
  • ruinedmirageruinedmirage Member Posts: 440 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    fathomful wrote: »
    I think it will reduce, but it will be a good reduction.

    I mean it just feels backwards to refuse to play a game unless you get something for it.
    I mean i dont think i would ever say "no not going to play cards with you unless its for money".
    I would not ever tell my son "sorry not going to play catch with you unless there is something in it for me".

    The people that dont enjoy playing and are only playing for things will gravitate to something else and the player base remaining will be much more dedicated and less toxic.

    I would much rather run a dungeon with someone who wants to run the dungeon and have fun as opposed to someone who just wants to exploit their way to the end boss to get a piece of loot.

    The enjoyment is in the journey not the destination lol!

    I think the bottom line, though, is that ANY dungeon might start to lose its "fun" appeal after you run it 24,85,668,493,288 times. Sure, it's nice to stop and smell the roses your first time through, but the second time, the roses are going to look and smell the same. They won't change the third or forth time through, either. Eventually, you'll find yourself asking, "WHY am I running this again?"

    Enter the Foundry, where (despite buggy and even non-existent rewards) the company had to put more restrictions on language filters to try and aggravate the authors into ragequitting because UGC is getting more attention than dev content (dramatization lolz). The Foundry really is the last hope, in my opinion.
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