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Is it too much to ask that you keep your clothes on in dungeons?
ladymythos
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First of all, please don't start with stupid jokes like it's being warm, or whatever. The problem is as a female player, I take offense in all these female character running around dungeons naked. Some of them have even ended up on my ignore-list becase of it. If these were female players, it would be one thing. But let's just say most of these naked characters have names that strongly suggest otherwise... Also, I have seen far too many naked female characters, yet not a single naked male character. That should ring a bell, too.
So all I want to ask if you can please keep your clothes on in dungeons and skirmishes with me. And second, please don't let this thread fall into the usual immature troll-trap. I know some of you want to be 'funny' by trolling on subjects like this, but please don't. That's all. Thanks.
So all I want to ask if you can please keep your clothes on in dungeons and skirmishes with me. And second, please don't let this thread fall into the usual immature troll-trap. I know some of you want to be 'funny' by trolling on subjects like this, but please don't. That's all. Thanks.
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Then you simply haven't been playing long enough.
I run across naked male dance parties in PE on a weekly basis, easily. I know that doesn't address the real reason for your discomfort, and I do understand. But I am not kidding about the naked male dance parties either.
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I am not sure that female players dislike naked chars like a whole however. I will tell you a real story that happened to me in WoW. I am one of those males that often play a female char. With one of them female char I teamed up often with another female char. We were going along fine when one day....(there is a bug in WoW that, if you have connection problems, make the armors of the other players invisible showing them naked) my friend connect and ask me: "Oh are you naked?" "No " I replied "I have my armor on" "ah " she said"then I have some connection problem . I like you this way, mind you , but it is too much distracting for me <sigh>" and she disconnected and connected again and everything was fine.
That did ring a bell in me too, but I was wrong, she was not a male player playing a female char, she was a female player ,playing a female char, that happened to be <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in real life. When everything was clarified among us we continued to play togheter just fine like before
If you switch to your "costume appearance" without costume items on you will essentially run around in your underwear. Ladymythos isn't talking about people running around without weapons or armor but is rather talking about people who are simply appearing skimpily dressed.
Sadly I really don't know where I stand on this issue though. People should have the option to run around however they want but it can negatively effect the immersion of other people and as pointed out is more than likely players simply behaving immaturely more so than any other reason.
It's kind of a catch 22. Sure people could be forced into wearing at least some costume items but at the same time any limitation on player choice could negatively effect those who have a valid reason for the action such as Roleplayers.
A few people have asked me "Why are you naked" I usually reply it's just because of how awesome I am. I mean my character is pretty ripped, so why not.
Usually keep my armor on my GF, cuz it looks cool.
btw op: Immature dudes playing female chars that do that generally don't read the forums (questionable if they are even able to read). So yea, your calls are falling on deaf ears.
Personally would never play a female char in an mmo, feels weird and deceptive - think it's especially weird for the guys that go far enough to give their female chars feminine names to boot. I do like the female fashion items in this game too, so i prefer they wear those rather than naked too for the ones i group with.
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Heck part of me really doesn't like looking like a giant tin can as a Guardian Fighter. I'd like to look like I am wearing cloth boots and a chainmail and cloth armor set.
Running around with absolutely nothing but a weapon and underwear can't really be considered a fashion statement, though.
However I have heard rumors that it's part of some sort of movement/protest thing. Something to do with people being upset the skimpy female clothing went away so as a sign of protest they are wearing nothing. *shrugs*
Or so I've heard through the grapevine.
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But I have seen similar it doesnt botther me they have a bakini on so its not like they are really nekid.
Actually, I am against forcing people to do something or not. If they want to keep their clothes on, I'm fine with it most of the time. The only thing I ask is if people can keep their clothes on in dungeons when I'm there. That's about it. It's fine in Protector's Enclave, as when I'm there, I'm too busy to care what other people wear. Same with quest zones like Blacklake District or Tower District.
The issue is mostly that I'm a roleplayer by heart, and let's face it, Neverwinter is a roleplaying game. It doesn't matter if we sit all night discussing whether it's an MMO or not. That's debatable. But RPG? That it is. But because it's an RPG, I want to create a character that's an extension of my personality (a bit extreme at some points, though. I can be psychopat in the game, but obviously not n real life. But the character can do stuff I want to do. It's just like speeding in a car game, or playing GTA. No matter how long you play GTA, you won't decide stealing cars in real life is ok. Or if you do, it's not GTAs fault.)
Anyway, as I was saying, I want the character to be an extension of my personality, and I can really dig in and experience the game like I would if it was real. It's called immersion. The problem is that with fantasy like this, a general rule for women seem to be that less clothes equal more armor. Why else would my rogue be covered head to toe in large armor, yet she still wear a sportsbra? Even so, I can accept that. It's too common to not accept. But a woman running around in her underwear? In a dungeon crawling with enemies and full of traps? That's just stupid. It ruins any semse of 'realism' the game tries to build.
As Seinfeld once said: There's good naked, and there's bad naked. I like to look at beautiful, handsome, sexy people. Gender don't matter. An atlethic woman can be just as attractive as an atlethic man. But there's a time and place for everything. I know many guys with big muscles like to show them, and if a fight breaks out, said guy often takes his shirt off first. This is for two reasons: The shirt is easy to grab, so it can give your opponent an advantage. But it can also be intimidating and give you an advantage.
But in a game? Sorry to say it, but the AI won't be intimidated by a guy running around with his shirt off. I know some people in fantasy do it (Conan, for instance, though that's technically Sword & Sorcery). I also know Red Sonya wears a bikini, so it's technically accepted for women to wear bikinis. That said, I don't like Red Sonya, mostly because of the bikini-issue.
To be short, I find it quite simple. If you can wear your current outfit in the grocery store, you can wear it anywhere. But if are going into a dungeon, it would be foolish to drop all your armor first.
Or to quote Kick-*** (the movie):
"Don't worry, I got it under control."
"Under... under control? You are picking up a freakin' bazooka!"
Size doesn't matter? Yeah, right. Bigger is usually better.
Though my characters would always comment about said character's lack of clothing in dungeons or pvp since Im in character in the entire time Im playing ingame.
So basicly, alot of people like to run around naked and they have a right to do that and like that, but the minority (you) do not like that and therefor want to ban these people from the game! because you do not find it funny! even though you were full aware of the large amount of guys here, you still think they have no right to be here!
I myself do not really fancy looking at naked men, how I manage? i don't look! simple!
also why is it you do not make the most bulkiest human male, and walk around naked on him?
Also this is the most important lesson in the entire universe everyone should have jammed down there throat! if you find something offensive and to your disliking avoid that! you can leave groups very easily! example: I find various extreme political gatherings offensive, that is why I don't attend them or otherwise pay attention to it!
people should not change to accomodate you its always the other way around!
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Mostly because any outfit they have worn so far looks silly to me, and it costs like 60k to change one piece of clothing ----___
To me nakedness is not a big deal, though. Sometimes nakedness can even be a parody of the obsessiveness with it in RL
Put it this way: Over in Marvel Heroes, a guy in my group started yelling in a boss fight, and let's just say he wa quite rude. So I told him nicely that I found it offensive, and asked him to please change his tone a bit. He apologized, and we were quite friendly the rest of the dungeon. It's that easy sometimes. I didn't threatening him. I didn't put him on ignore. I treated him like a decent human being, and he did the same. I was just hoping people in this game can do it, too. And most do, when they are in the game. The forum, on the other hand...
Nooooooooo! nooooooooo! It burns it BURNS!
It could sound silly that someone can be offended by such matters, but you should respect others' demands especially if they aren't obligatory and been asked in a civil and polite way. Instead, you could express your opinion in a civil way without trolling and show why you would prefer not to keep your armor on.
But i think being civil on the internet will eventually get you trolled by immature low-intelligent creatures.
But at any rate, while I sympathize with the OP, I also think it's a whole lot better than combat armor being stupidly skimpy and appreciate that female avatars aren't usually stupidly disproportionate either, thanks to the character creation mechanisms. Some of the players do annoying and weird things that still probably shouldn't be stopped (if they started policing that, where would it end?), but it's nice that the game itself doesn't encourage it.
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If you choose to be offended, that is your decision. That player is doing what is fun for them and, if you choose to be offended by it, the problem is yours, not theirs. You are free to think they are stupid, and you are free to put them on ignore if you are that overly sensitive, but do not tell other people how to play. Frankly, I doubt that anyone who does that would heed your plea anyway. Likely this thread will encourage more people to do it.
Odd, though, that it would be acceptable if it were women doing it. :rolleyes:
As to male characters running around with little on, I see that all the time. The ones just in underwear remind me of kids who are lazy and don't ever want to dress at home and run around in their underwear all the time being an eyesore to everyone else. The ones with just pants on remind me of the body builder type of athlete that is just trying to show off and people shrug off cause of it. I don't really see just the shirt look on male characters.
Just be glad you can't pay to make characters truly naked. I think the courtesan outfit is more revealing than the underwear is on female characters, and there are only 3 cash outfits to choose between for each gender and one of them is wedding attire that looks out of place just about if not everywhere.
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