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fusedmass
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It appears now another promotion has started up, the Hero of the North starter pack is still there for 200 dollars. (Not complaining.) however something peaked my curiosity. Upon clicking on the link, I proved above. It says "Moon Elf Race" this looks very similar, if not exactly the same with different clothes, then the renegade race.
I'm not very familiar with the lore. Can someone explain to me, what exactly makes renegade and moon elf race, different. Looking at their features, both have pointy ears, and look like half elfs.
Again this is not to provoke flaming. I sincerely don't know.
Are they the same race, what makes moon race different. Is it an entirely new class or just an expansion of Drow race. I'd like to know very much the fine details on the class.
Thanks in advance
http://nw.perfectworld.com/neverwinterpack
It appears now another promotion has started up, the Hero of the North starter pack is still there for 200 dollars. (Not complaining.) however something peaked my curiosity. Upon clicking on the link, I proved above. It says "Moon Elf Race" this looks very similar, if not exactly the same with different clothes, then the renegade race.
I'm not very familiar with the lore. Can someone explain to me, what exactly makes renegade and moon elf race, different. Looking at their features, both have pointy ears, and look like half elfs.
Again this is not to provoke flaming. I sincerely don't know.
Are they the same race, what makes moon race different. Is it an entirely new class or just an expansion of Drow race. I'd like to know very much the fine details on the class.
Thanks in advance
http://nw.perfectworld.com/neverwinterpack
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Moon elves (along with the sun elves) are Forgotten Realms version of the Eldarin, which are the more regal and magical variety of elves who have a deeper connection to the feywild.
All elves, whether drow, wood, or eldarin (and to a lesser extent half-elves) are going to have pointy ears as that has always been one of their defining features.
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Drow and Moon Elf are both Tel-quessir and part of the Eladrin.
Drow are typically shorter than other elven races (which doesn't seem to be expressed in Neverwinter) but other than that there's few differences physically other than skin, hair and eye color.
As of Fourth Edition elves are now split into Sylvan Elves and Eladrin.
Elves in Neverwinter...
Sylvan - Wood Elf
Eladrin - Drow Elf
Eladrin - Sun Elf
Eladrin - Moon Elf
If you read those articles you'll know there is a lot of lore difference and some differences not translated into Neverwinter but their physical proportions are all about the same just like human ethnicities.
Drow, on the other hand, are the evil, vile elves, tainted with blood of Wendonai(a balor lord, basically a very powerful demon) and worship an evil spider godess Lolth, or Lloth as the drow name her. They have mostly red, sometimes more bluish, lavender eyes, obsidian collored skin, and mostly white, some times silver or platinm blonde hair. Drow society is quite messed up, for example, if you killed another drow, and no one saw it - it didn't happen, even if evidence clearly points to you(though be carefull who you kill, since angry matrons are a pain in the rear). Allso during your trip in a drow citty, dont mind a dagger in your back, it's pritty normal, a natural cause of death for them. If you are male, be sure to know your place, otherwhise prepare for beating. But there are good drow too, like Drizzt, Zaknafein, Jarlaxle, Solaufein, etc. and in 4e there are few non-evil drow villages.
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. . . . . In order to be a full-blooded Eladrin born in Toril, you would have had to been born from two Eladrin parents who came over from the Feywild within the past hundred or so years. Moon elves are also adopting the way, but not all. Many choose to continue living their lives as the elves they have always been for hundreds or even thousands of years. Elves live so very long that it would take thousands of years for the Eladrin race to fully take over and become the only elven race, if it even happens at all. It's not like a magical switch flipped when the Feywild opened up and all elves became Eladrin.
. . . . . It even says in the core rulebook for Forgotten Realms 4e, that when one choose to roll an Eladrin, you must decide if you came from the Feywild or were a native sub-race that adopted the Eladrin traditions of olde.
. . . . . The Moon Elves are the most wide-spread sub-race in the Realms. This is because they are one of the sub-races that a vast majority didn't heed the call of Evermeet or the Retreat and stayed on the mainlands during the Crown Wars and there-after. After them, the Sylvan (Green and Wild) elves also are quite numerous but generally stay in secluded areas, unlike the Moon Elves, who embrace civilization. The Sun Elves, apart of some of the rare sub-races like Avariel and the Aquatic sub-races, are the rarest of the sub races on the mainland, but are still very numerous.
. . . . . The drow are another story all-together and thanks to Eilistrasee's Sacrifice, there are now actually two types of Drow. The evil drow most know, who live in the underdark and worship Lolth and other vile gods, and then the drow who had Corellon's Curse lifted from them because they still worshiped Eilistrasee (the Goddess of Good Drow) at the time of their Goddess' death. These good drow who had their Curse lifted, now more resemble the way they looked prior to the Descent, with charcoal to ash-black skin, instead of obsidian black with blue and purple undertones that their evil underdark brethren have.
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......Come on RANGER..........
Moon Elves might be the most prolific NPCs in Neverwinter. Those who wish to emulate the lore might prefer to play a Moon Elf - which means they'd be more likely to spend money to do so.
Those who don't care so much will be content to play Sun Elves.
Is there any physical differences in the player character models in-game? Or did Cryptic just copy the sun elf character files, add more darker hair options, then call it a "brand new race"???
I'm curious about it also, I'm thinking it will have a bonus stat. Like how playing a certain race adds strength points etc, from first glimpse they look almost exactly like the other race. If you don't know the lore, you could easily mistake them for being the same race.
I know I first did. These important details won't be revealed till after the expansion pack is here. One thing I noticed, they have pre orders of the pack now open. But they haven't expressively said you don't have to buy the pack to play the expansion. The expansion is in itself for free.
Its gives you a moment to pause when they're having a new zen companion nearly every month. (Not that I'm complaining) they also have time to make this p reorder pack. I sincerely believe (This is just me) when the launch started. They should have removed Heros Of the North.
Now when a new pack comes along, we don't have that same urgent impulse to buy, because we know the expansion is free and we don't' actually really need any of the items, even if we did. We could easily buy them a month or a few after the expansion, we know they're still going to be selling them.
As for the answer to you're question, I doubt we will really know till we play them. Yet they look errie similar in that being their both elfs and clothes modified sightly. (Without knowing the lore behind it)
That got me thinking about the current elves we have, wood elf (free) and drow ($200). If they were merely color palette swaps, I'm sure the new ones will be as well. I tried to customize them both so they were the same build, both natural faces with all the sliders right in the middle, with a toned body build.
Note that there might be slight differences in expression, because they kept looking around. Anywho, it looks like just a recolor between the Renegade Drow and Wood elf, probably only abilities and a few quests are going to make a difference.
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So Cryptic is just taking an existing character model, changing the colour palette (assuming more darker hair options), and charging us for a "new" race.
Frankly, not enough to warrant me forking over the cash I'm afraid.
They're charging for the package, which includes a lot more than just the race... but to each their own. Did you really expect them to create a new model for an elven subrace though? An elf is an elf is an elf, whether they have tanned, pale, or dark skin.
. . . . . Besides, there really isn't much difference physically speaking, between the elven races in the Forgotten Realms other than skin, hair, and eye color. So, I'd say they're on the right track. However... my drow are still missing their blue and green eye color choices as well as a yellowish hair hue (for the sick or elderly drow).
. . . . . The Forgotten Realms are not like other fantasy genres where the elves are almost freakishly different than each other, except for when you get to the Lytharii, Avariel, and Aquatic Elves. That is, unless you still count Drider as being elven. What sets the elven races apart are their societies and small differences in innate abilities, their looks are almost always only different in relation to hair, eye, and skin-tone. The High Elves and Drow however, tend to be the taller of the sub-races, especially in females - which can be manipulated with the Leg Length slider in the advanced appearance settings when creating a character in game. Granted, its not that big of a height difference but neither is it in The Forgotten Realms either, which this game is of.
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Who are you comparing to dogs....
RP aside this is on the ball.
They all look the same but have different skin tones to make it simple.
It seems a tad messed up, these two models look who similar. Since one is supposed be a race, you only obtain by placing 200 hundred dollars down, and the other is free. Now an upcoming pack with a new race unlocked. However as noted by the poster, above.
The free elf, moon elf race and Hero of North, Half Elf seem to share one thing. They look very similar to each other. Nothing that stands out expect for the clothing. Which is a bit sad, if people are putting down 60 dollars for a pack with a bunch of goodies, to get a new companion, new mount, and a new race.
I have to question, if packs are so easily made. They seem to be creating zen store companions at a rapid pace. If they are so easy to create, why not take the time to make the model look unique and different then its counter parts. They could have added special features.
This feels more like an attempt to rattle, the dimes and nickles from our pockets then a sincere attempt to redo a race. I support this game, a thousand percent. However, I was easily able point out similarities with the race. Why don't they make them more different and unique.
. . . . . In actuality, the appearances between the elven sub-races in the Realms is not that different and, for the most-part, falls in line with what we see in game now. When you take away hair, eye, and skin color in PnP Realms, they are are pretty much the same just as they are when doing the same in Neverwinter Online. As I said above, what sets the sub-races apart in the Realms (apart from Lytharii, Avariel, and Aquatics) are their societies and innate abilities, which is reflected in the lore and innate abilities in game for these sub-races. So really, people are just complaining that PWE/Cryptic are following the lore of the Realms? Odd, indeed.
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It's not so much as complaining. I've very pleased this corporation allowed the gamers to buy on a game which barely lags, delivers some visually amazingly stunning graphics. It would be fine, if the models that looked similar were both free.
But they are not, these are races, we have to pay 60 bucks to 200 to get access to, considering the amount of money, we would invest simply to have this race. I just thought they could have gone a tiny bit out of their way to make the model, look a bit more unique.
In a game, where they create HD like graphics. I would think they could tweak the apperance, just a tad more so it doesn't look nearly exactly like another race. I am just expressing my viewpoint, as my first thoughts. (This is someone who hasn't read the lore in detail) my complaint is, for the money we're paying. They could have done a tiny bit more, when making the new starter packs.
A lot of these companions already existed [during beta], but were removed before open beta began. Now that the game has gone live, they're adding them back to the game...
You're telling me, they created these companions. Months ahead before the game to actually release. Then placed it on Zen market after a few months of it launching. If I had known, the Zen store would sell all the important items. (Mounts, Enchanted Keys) I may have reconsidered my choice for Hero of the North.
However, the Hero of North provides me with a spider mount. No matter which alt I'm on. Along with an adventure pack, which is a box of items you don't really use. The diamonds it provided was nice. However I spent a majority of them on the first day of soft launch when the prices we're still outrageous.
It is not so much paying for a unique race as it is paying for early access to a unique version of a free race.
As said in the lore the elf races look identical apart from skin tone, hair colours and eye colours. The same will happen if they add variants of the dwarfs, halflings and gnomes.
I can understand them been in the beta for the sake of testing, I do wish they would add more companions to ingame vendors or drops instead of having them as zen store or very rare drops from various things (Lillend was going for 3mill AD on dragon).
I got the Guardian pack, mostly to support the game and because the free max speed mount on all characters saves me a fortune not to mention the free blue weapon that is great till level 20+.
I do wish they would balance companions more so that you see people using something other than Pheora to level and Stone/Cat at max.
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I'm slightly confused. You say, they are calling them. The "Sharandar Elves instead of Moon Elf Races. However when I click on the promotion pack, it details all the things you get. It clearly says "Moon Elf Race. Could you clarify if they are indeed selling Moon Race, or did I misinterpret that?
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Details:
Moon Elf Race
Playable race that comes with unique stat bonuses as well as unique Wanderlust and Moon Elf Resilience racial powers. Can be used to make as many characters as you want, as long as you have slots available!