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so for the last 2 weeks or so i was sending cryptic massages about people who r probably bots or exploiters and selling massive amounts of lvl 5 enchantments in ah. like 1000 and 2000 in dark ,azure,silver etc. they selling this in batches of 99 so just add the numbers and u find the quantity. 2 days ago i found one of this people selling 6000 - yes 6k - of residuum in ah. so again i contacted cryptic and they sent me respond - problem solved - and i looked today in ah and this person is selling another 6000 residuum - so maybe his problem solved - but not my problem solved i guess.
so this bots r runing the economy and fun of game. why should i farm enchantments if i can buy them cheap from ah whithout any problem.
my biggest frustration is its so easy to notice. really cryptic needs me to send message of people whoes selling inormuse amounts of enchantments and profession stuff then it takes 3-4 days until they respond. when its takes only 5 min to see this in ah. this is so easy to notice and yet - cryptic or pw - arnt doing anything about this.
so why not use bots. why farm like crazy and not use bots to farm for u and then even make good buck in ah.
im pretty shure their r some good people in cryptic but this negligence is just opening the door for others to abuse the system and in the end to ruin any fun the game has.
imagine not getting any ticket if ur driving more than the speed limit. how many people would drive in speed limit?
so if bots r ur thing i say go for it. why not?
so this bots r runing the economy and fun of game. why should i farm enchantments if i can buy them cheap from ah whithout any problem.
my biggest frustration is its so easy to notice. really cryptic needs me to send message of people whoes selling inormuse amounts of enchantments and profession stuff then it takes 3-4 days until they respond. when its takes only 5 min to see this in ah. this is so easy to notice and yet - cryptic or pw - arnt doing anything about this.
so why not use bots. why farm like crazy and not use bots to farm for u and then even make good buck in ah.
im pretty shure their r some good people in cryptic but this negligence is just opening the door for others to abuse the system and in the end to ruin any fun the game has.
imagine not getting any ticket if ur driving more than the speed limit. how many people would drive in speed limit?
so if bots r ur thing i say go for it. why not?
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So why not use bots. Why farm like crazy and not use bots to farm for u and then even make good buck in ah.
Because it's wrong.
So is exploiting and 95% of runs of Tier 2 do that......
The point the OP was trying to make is that if you make it so much harder (or even practically impossible) to succeed fairly people will just take the easier method even if it is morally dubious. He doesn't want to cheat or exploit, but seeing how much harder it makes it for him to legitimately earn his way fairly he is understandably upset.
Well, for starters, the number of traffic-accidents would soar. There's a reason why there's a speedlimit.
Same applies to rules in a game, the anonymity on the internet just makes it a whole lot easier to think cheating is somehow fine.
I know what he was implying, I simply answered his question from my point of view. It's also my opinion that cheating is not morally dubious. There is no doubt in my mind that cheating is wrong. I wish they could somehow fix the problem. The fact that they have not, does not effect my view, or my actions.
All true, but I can guarantee you that 95%+ of the players here won't and that will led to massive issues, if the gaping holes in game design aren't fixed.
I am finding myself agreeing with most of the things you post around here. It's a little scary.
haha fail
stop waste your time with that ;p
don`t expect them to actualy do much about bots without having the proper people for it.
look at pvp mechanics for example, how scores are handled, blablabla, there`s enough to see that this company isn`t realy high tech and doesn`t have the tools to do much about it.
Having a disgruntled player base will also have a (longer-term but probably far more serious) effect on profits though....
I totally agree and we are seeing it already, however the solution is still dragging at the pace of an arthritic snail.
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dont tell me u never driven over the speed limit ...so r u doing wrong??
of course if every one where killing each other (in real life) i would not do it even if everyone do it - but in this game if everyone using bot i have only 2 option - join the festival or quit the game. for example if i was making money of harvesting enchantments - now with bots i cant compete with that. i really dont like this and bots is not so easy to use for laymanes like me so this is probably why i havent posted here how yo use this for all to see - but really what choice do i have - as i said leave the game or join in. maybe my dislike of this will ultimately get me leave the game - which i think will happen with all serious gamers - because this is not the way a game should be handled.
so easy to fix this - put some man on this 2-3 hours a day and this problem is gone.
There are more than two choices. As far as how easy it is to fix, I can't comment on that because I have no experience being a dev.
I don't cheat. I have fun. I am able to earn the things I need to be effective in a group. You gave two choices , either cheat or quit. I reject both of those choices, and my fun has not been impacted.
Uh, you do realize that AD is a completely fictitious currency, right? And that it's created by the company, right? (ie: if they wanted to, they could snap their fingers and create trillions of it) The cut on the AH is just a mechanic to control inflation, there is absolutely 0 benefit from it to the company.
I found your go bots!!
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Yes but also remember many people buy AD with zen and then spend it so it is another way of cutting into the real world currency, but yes ultimately you are totally right, however there really is no need to control inflation in the AD AH, so ultimately other than not letting botters get away with earning whatever they want without the company getting a cut why should they take anything out of the ADs we buy or grind?
Or is it that some have been "spoiled" by Farmville and Mafia Wars and "social" games of its like and cant play a game that includes critical thinking and planning? Its hard so therefore lets cheat??? No.
It's called "try again".
I will say that number of adds in T1/T2 dungeons should be scaled way back, and replaced with fewer but stronger mobs, with resistances/immunities. Take it back to D&D please.
See? When I think things are hard, I try until I succeed. Even though I think endless quantity of adds in boss fights are ridiculous and not always fun, instead of pulling the CHEAT card, I come up with suggestions TO MAKE THE GAME BETTER.
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I disagree that there's no point in controlling inflation, but all we can do is speculate since none of us have any information on what the economy in game is doing. I would be shocked if it were not monitored fairly closely.
But, again, there is no point in the company taking a "cut" of AD, as AD is of 0 value to the company itself. It's not like they can cash it in (to themselves?)! Actually, taking a % off from AH sales is a good thing for inhibiting botters; just imagine what would happen if all their sales all of a sudden netted 10% more AD?
Fictitious money: correct.
Control inflation: incorrect.
It's there as a money sink to keep people generating, buying, and spending AD. It's not there to control inflation, it's there along with all of the other in-game expenses to give people a reason to keep playing and to keep buying AD and items with real money.
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That's a reasonable theory, aye. Perhaps it's a combination of both. I am inclined to think that if there was 10% more AD floating around in the economy that prices would somewhat higher in general.
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Given how long it would take a real human being to get those number of items, I think it is a pretty safe assumption.
Definitely the original intention of those money sinks was as you said for MMOs. It seems in recent MMOs with micro-transactions (such an old term now, lol) they've skewed the mechanic to keep players here and paying money.
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Why are they bots. I buy sell and trade 99 rank 5's. Why are you trying to rain on trading items legitly? I just bought 99 rank 5's today. Just cause you don't understand something doesn't mean its wrong.
A little bit of common sense is, of course, required: I have 8 characters at or near 60 and I am pretty sure that I got less than 500 residuum total during all that time.
One post of 999 residuum isn't necessarily indicative of anything illegal. But same person selling a number of 999 stacks every few days without having bought anything through the AH, does seem a little unlikely. And remember the 12.5% loss from the AH cut as well if you want to play the reselling game.
As for those posting multiple stacks of 999 rank 5 or 6 well......
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so if u want to do somthing u can.
lol well if you live in Colorado Denver area tbh posted speed limits are 65 mph yet since there is no cops on the highways (6th ave/i-25/us 285/ i 70) peps speed like there's no tomorrow so yes since Perfect World doesn't care about bots my vote is bot it up like crazy yes i have thought hmmmm what does Google bring up when i type "bots neverwinter" just like the cops they cant do anything if they don't care