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a2ur
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What were you guys smoking while creating cw and tr? Please tell me your dealer number I want that too! Seriously who was that smart to let CW dodge/immune 100% atacks while they use utility power? Do you guys even realize that CW stamina regeneration is too fast and they can use teleport all the time and avoid all the dmg?
Who was that smart to let TR atack ppl in stealth and stay invisible? They can be immortal, invisible and kill everyone from range (ofc while invisible!). I can't wait to see your next awesome ideas.
Who was that smart to let TR atack ppl in stealth and stay invisible? They can be immortal, invisible and kill everyone from range (ofc while invisible!). I can't wait to see your next awesome ideas.
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I'm guessing that would be rings of invisibility and aetheralness (you can see them and they can attack you but they are always non-solid and take no damage when you go to strike them)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= http://www.youtube.com/user/moegoodtime
Psssssssst.
Pro-Tip about TR's.... Stealth is NOT invisibility.
What are you playing? If you say GWF or GF I am going to ***** slap you.
TR: Stealth Stab Stab StabStabStabStabStab Stealth Stab Stab StabStabStabStabStab
GWF: Block Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump
GF: Charge Roaaaarh Slash Slash Slash Slash Pfffff Roaaaarh !!! Slash Slash Slash Slash Pfffff
DC: Imune Imune Imune Imune Dodge Heal Imune Imune Imune Imune Dodge Heal
Sounds pretty balanced to me
Well perma stealth is possible and quite easy.
And here is the reason:
And dumb, and totally unbalanced. Yeah, my main is a rogue, and I don't waste time in pvp. After hitting a cleric with no shield with lashing blade, dazing strike, smoke bomb, shocking execution...I knocked maybe 1/10th of his health off, I gave up. The immune/dodge bug is just sad. And, having myself and a gf beating on a wizard, with him not dying when you can't see a bit of health at all on his bar, something wrong there. Deft strike to a wizard that hits you from all the way above you on the bridge, he blinks. Move to him, blink. Deft strike, dazing strike, blink. Smoke bomb, blink. Two rays, dead. Blah blah. Waste of time.
I must be playing my CW TOTALLY wrong then, because I'm only allowed to blink 3 times before my stamina runs out, AND to avoid anything I must be extremely precise. In fact, the most times I get killed in PvP, it's because of a rogue going invisible and throwing daggers at me or using Lashing Blade that almost 1KO. Really dunno what to do. People said Oppressive Force reveals and dazes rogues in stealth, but I couldn't get it to work yet.
And immune to what? CW doesn't have any immunity spell, like Unstoppable or Blocking or something. Our controlling spells, that could be our salvation, lasts like 1 or 2 seconds at most on people. I even removed Entangle from my tab because it seems freaking useless, with so many people immune to control.
Because that's solo. I didn't die much either. I was actually shocked the first time I died, after many levels, and I didn't know what to do.
Just do like other wizards do and stand above the point, on the bridge. Then, when a rogue deft strikes up, blink away and own. That way, other classes can't get to you without losing the point.
Oh gosh, how didn't I see this sooner? It completely solves all problems wizards have in PvP. I thank you sir.
No problem at all. Or, I could actually use the ridiculously worn out meme "l2p your class", when referring to your post. I won't though.
On second thought, you could recognize that I wasn't telling you how to play your class, only sarcastically pointing out a flaw in this game's pvp.
Tr's are not immortal, nor can they use any type of perma stealth. Once you get within a certain distance, about 15 to 20 game feet you can see their stealth silhouette just fine, they do not have a full stealth mechanic in this game, that's when I charge, lock them down and destroy them. The only time a TR kills me is if their daily is up and that isn't often. I do go out of my way to hunt down the blades flying from their hidden point and chase them down and kill them, their tene enchants do nothing while they are locked down and die.
CW are another story, I have a lot of problems with the perma evades they can spam out, even when I close and try to lock them down. They can spam knock backs and dodges much to often and that needs to be looked at if their damage isn't reduced. I would have no problem with them keeping their perma dodging if their DPS were reduced to reflect the added survivability. Right now the CW are using exploits with macros to gain this as I have seen some folks get the drop on a cw only to have it auto spin and spam three skills nearly instantly, and these are not bots but players using the shortcomings of the macro system to full effect.
Indeed it is!
rofl
Dorlin: Level 65 GF/2nd Account: Calias/62
Elkysium: Level 65 CW/2nd Account: Krystalyn/62
Artemis: Level 65 TR/2nd Account: Fayne/62
Zantoth: Level 65 DC/2nd Account: Nemea/62
Kryndar: Level 65 HR/2nd Account: Lilith/62
Goreb: Level 65 GWF/2nd Account: Tysha/62
Bamidor: Level 65 OP/2nd Account: Valindra/62
THIS. I fell victim to this last night. I'm not a decked out GF, but I can hang with the tough ones, if need be. Last night, I had to deal with a PvP group consisting of 2 CWs, 2 TRs and 1 GWF. Nevermind the fact they were decked out to the teeth, with 10k GS, fighting my side, which was probably 9k and lower. (I, myself, hover at just under 10k GS, using the T1 purples from PvP and none are enchanted yet.) The TRs were using perma-stealth and the invulnerability exploit. The GWF was using the Immunity exploit and the two CWs were using macro exploits and spamming Enfeeblement spells, via hotkeys. Of course, my side is going "This is bs! We can't compete when they're exploiting, so they all started rage quitting. I figured out something was up, so I turned on my record early. When it came down to it, I was the only one left and they're camped out in front of my safe area, just waiting for me. So, I called them out for cheating, letting them know I recorded the match and would report it. Then, one of the TRs jumped into my Safe Zone and took me out right in my campsite. (Thought you "fixed" that in the last patch, Cryptic?) So, at this point, they start calling me a "crybaby", mocking me, 'cos there was nothing I could do. I reiterated that I WAS reporting them and the same TR, jumped back in my area and said verbatim in toto:
"So.... they can't ban me."
At which point one of the CWs tried using Black Hole to pull me off my Safe Area so they could grief me. (Thought you "fixed" the targeting inside Safe Zones too, Cryptic. -_-)
I play PvP to get my T1 purples since I'm not "epic" enough to run with the "big boys." I suggest most do the same. The few that play PvP for fun seem few and far between. Most just feel the need to grief, 'cos they can. When I've played against a group that has deserted a single member, I won't participate in a spawn camp, 'cos it's unsportsmanlike. Of course, the fact that it's such a problem in this game, as well as the use of exploits, only shows how sad our society has become.
Let me reiterate. "So.... they can't ban me." If those are the kinds of players that legitimate players will always have to deal with and having the only response from the "Community Administrators" and *NOT* the Developers being "We're working on it" or "We're looking into it" yet it just becomes more rampant, says a lot about where this game is actually headed. I've come across several "reviews" of this game, but the way their written, actually makes me wonder if the writer's have PLAYED the game, or if PWE just bought good reviews.
Just my 2p.
If they attack from the safe zone then you can attack and get up there. They walk out far enough without falling to avoid the collision wall.
Dorlin: Level 65 GF/2nd Account: Calias/62
Elkysium: Level 65 CW/2nd Account: Krystalyn/62
Artemis: Level 65 TR/2nd Account: Fayne/62
Zantoth: Level 65 DC/2nd Account: Nemea/62
Kryndar: Level 65 HR/2nd Account: Lilith/62
Goreb: Level 65 GWF/2nd Account: Tysha/62
Bamidor: Level 65 OP/2nd Account: Valindra/62
How exactly does a GF attack from a safe zone? No, this TR somehow managed to get INTO my area and took me out, for calling them out for cheating. You also seem to miss my stating they attacked me *IN* my campsite, which is away from "the edge" of the Safe Zone.
Wasn't referring to you, was talking about the CW and others that i have seen do it that way.
Dorlin: Level 65 GF/2nd Account: Calias/62
Elkysium: Level 65 CW/2nd Account: Krystalyn/62
Artemis: Level 65 TR/2nd Account: Fayne/62
Zantoth: Level 65 DC/2nd Account: Nemea/62
Kryndar: Level 65 HR/2nd Account: Lilith/62
Goreb: Level 65 GWF/2nd Account: Tysha/62
Bamidor: Level 65 OP/2nd Account: Valindra/62
Don't get me wrong, 'cos PvP is a ton of fun, if you don't have griefers. There's a lot of trash talk, a lot of back and forth and a lot of friends made. I've become friends with a lot of other players that were using decked out GFs and after we both got a kill on one another, decided to duke it out, ignoring everyone else. It's a proud moment when you have a GF wailing on one player and as soon as they see you round a corner, they drop their target, 'cos they want YOU.
Dorlin: Level 65 GF/2nd Account: Calias/62
Elkysium: Level 65 CW/2nd Account: Krystalyn/62
Artemis: Level 65 TR/2nd Account: Fayne/62
Zantoth: Level 65 DC/2nd Account: Nemea/62
Kryndar: Level 65 HR/2nd Account: Lilith/62
Goreb: Level 65 GWF/2nd Account: Tysha/62
Bamidor: Level 65 OP/2nd Account: Valindra/62
You can easily handle a TR especially after playing with one and know how to pvp with them. Don't just stand on their way and fight to death, you need to be cunning instead of go beast mode all the time. You can dodge TRs but not CWs ****ing CWs. All they need to do is moving their mouse just a bit further on their screen and you are dead. Especially if it is 1 v 2 and there is one CW. Mind me but I killed against 1 v 3 when there was one DC, two TRs. Unless CW is a idiot, I can't do much to them until another CW or someone in my team stun them(i hardly hold myself to yell at our CW to go after other CW or just stun him so I can actually be a match, being away from their non-escapable attacks.) , that way i go get them.
All other classes are balanced minus DC on healing. People start to not getting a DC on dungeon and rely if there is 2-3 cleric companion because DPS groups are simply better.
And again CW is ****ing OP right now. TRs are already balanced and easy to handle. Actually with them going on full power all the time, and weak on defense and health as a class feature, they are freaking easy m8. They can't use stealth all the time. I actually like going for TRs, it is either defense or health they are easy to kill. GFs are more annoying with their shields but I can't say they are OP like CWs. I hate CWs. And yes I also hate them hiding up there so I have to check or wait in ladders incase they pop out of middle of nowhere when others arrive, be a good tank for them.
Should youtube that video, give us the link. What server btw? And, send it to PW/Cryptic so they can close your ticket and tell you everything is fine.
Lulz..... that last part reminded me of them sending me my closed ticket saying "Sorry 42k AD just disappeared from your account, while you were online. Here's half as a "one time courtesy." That's all we can do."
My defense? tab-q-spam mm-pop steal time if your close< rof if your not>- spam mm and pop shield as a last resort-- and PRAY im not stunned-knocked prone-dazed-ect. and that I managed to 1. kill you (not very often "p) 2. spook you away. WE ARE GLASS CCANNONS! Even with our primary defense (shield) up and untouched iv been Dailied by a DC and SMOKED! Wanna kill a cw? Its easier than killing a GF (block and hella hp) we all know the BA gwfs that are nigh impossible to kill (if you don't ... you are one) TRs the one hit wonder sneaky sneaky pow pows... For all that's holy .. we don't need nerfed .. quit griping about the control powers of the CW.. know what that stands for? CONTROL! deal with it bromies-- Besides ...rly .... rly...? our stuns last for 3 seconds ea at the most on PC's (even using the passive that increases duration by 15%(which I use)) Here is the bottom line gents and ladies.. its pvp .. your gonna die... and it might tick ya off.. instead of gripping about what makes each class better at pvp.. why not gripe about the people dropping copious ammounts of money into this game getting perfect vorpals, soulforged, rank 10's and a 40$ mount..Each class is fine .. some harder to kill than others *cough* BA GWFS *cough* but nut up and deal or walk on. I put my vote on doing tiered pvp.. I.E. Similarly G.s.ed players matched up (and kicks when ppl put cruddy gear on and swap when the match starts
Rant over
I don't think they're OP. I just hate that Entanglement/Tele/Ice or Lightning attack macro **** they do. Don't get me wrong, 'cos I can crank out some MEAN GF combos, 'cos of how my keybinds are set, but I'm not *THAT* fast.
The only thing that really annoys me in PvP is the invulnerability exploit the TRs are running around with now. As a GF, if you get hit with perma-stealth attacks and you have your guard up, any defensive attack (one that automatically hits when you're struck) identifies where your attacker is. I suggest putting your camera in a top-down view, so you can see better. If that doesn't work, Villain's Menace will zero them as well. The stomp animation is a little longer, but with the 30' burst, you're sure to hit them. As above, you just have to see where the damage number pops up. Once you see that, they're fairly easy to target and pull out of stealth temporarily.
Well, that and these premade buffed to all **** teams that just do PvP to grief PUGs, but sometimes, you can PWN them, if you have a good team.
My class is gonna hate me, and I'm pretty sure it's a bug since they boosted our Guard, but GFs can't block entangle or slow anymore.
Lulz. that GWF immunity is getting to me too! XD
Oh, one other thing. If you see another CW hit them with an Entangle spell, hit them with another one of those control spells, like entangle or slow. Sadly, that **** stacks.
Dunno what their skills are but it is non dodgeable. It gives me no chance at all every other melee class needs to be close to their target, because of that their targets can easily dodge their attacks. I do the same when I across melee classes, just playing cat& rat game for a while. For CW it is impossible. Once they target you, you are done. Nor any bosses or any classes have that ability. Even spiders only stick you to the ground. Once CW's attack targets you, you are done. No where to escape dodge etc. It is annoying. It is OP. It is unfair. It needs to either get nerfed or that power should be similar to boss attacks, we should see red coming and have a chance to escape it. Right now, we can't either see it coming or get rid of it.
Again I am serious about what I say. All other classes are balanced minus Cleric and Cleric is really really bad and mostly useless to group, having couple cleric companions has more advantage.
CW on the other hand, they really need to be bad to fail or low class with no skills maybe?
My tactic on CW is catch up on a time when he is busy pvping with someone else, assuming his skills are not cooled down then go for it.
GF, TR, GWF, DC all easier targets for me. CW is just annoying. Not only you can't reach them to target them when they start to ran away, they still get to have skills that is impossible to escape once is targeted. Skilled CWs can do this all day long. Even average CWs are annoying. Bad CWs are bad like any bad other classes.
Once I come across a skilled CW, i just feel like a lamb who leaved his crowd and alone with a big bad wolf and it feels like they are actually kidding me. I mean CWs usually hate TRs because they are the only ones who can reach them with stealth and stun them before CWs took any action. Most who say TRs are OP actually CWs too. I would say not really. TRs are actually probably the easiest for me. Just letting them throwing their attacks to the air, then target them. Which for CWs case, targeting them alone is a matter sometimes. And once more I hate their non dodgable skills.
OMG hes a GWF from his forum posts. Man i never like to say this but get some reasonable gear and Lrn2play.
Im a CW i hate GWF sent builds.