Most of the listed problems on the forums and a lot of QQ about bots, afkers, players just wanting to get there daily in depending on bracket 1-4 games. It makes sense to some taking a break from whatever they are doing to que up if they are low on AD and broke cause they don't know how to make AD to try and afk threw the PvP daily for 4000AD.
This is the problem!! Please remove AD from the PvP daily. I don't do PvP or the daily for it and don't want AD as a reward. Its stupid. Why would you reward me a PvP player with a PvE currency. Not only that you are encouraging botters and afkers to join a PvP game for this very small #$%^ reward. The current #$#% reward draws even worse players that don't care to do there daily AFK.
Simple fix to the afk, botter movement is the reward. I much rather have a PvP reward for the PvP daily. Maybe I am the only one that thinks this is common sense but really.
The rewards could be
PvP pots or battle elixirs
Glory
PvP unique dyes.
Coins to use in a PvP shop
Ect...ect...ect.. Remove AD as a reward from our PvP we don't want it. We do 20 matches a day and would like to see some PvP rewards from it. I doubt players would stop after there dungeon for PvP rewards to afk in. Just makes sense.
Most of the listed problems on the forums and a lot of QQ about bots, afkers, players just wanting to get there daily in depending on bracket 1-4 games. It makes sense to some taking a break from whatever they are doing to que up if they are low on AD and broke cause they don't know how to make AD to try and afk threw the PvP daily for 4000AD.
This is the problem!! Please remove AD from the PvP daily. I don't do PvP or the daily for it and don't want AD as a reward. Its stupid. Why would you reward me a PvP player with a PvE currency. Not only that you are encouraging botters and afkers to join a PvP game for this very small #$%^ reward. The current #$#% reward draws even worse players that don't care to do there daily AFK.
Simple fix to the afk, botter movement is the reward. I much rather have a PvP reward for the PvP daily. Maybe I am the only one that thinks this is common sense but really.
The rewards could be
PvP pots or battle elixirs
Glory
PvP unique dyes.
Coins to use in a PvP shop
Ect...ect...ect.. Remove AD as a reward from our PvP we don't want it. We do 20 matches a day and would like to see some PvP rewards from it. I doubt players would stop after there dungeon for PvP rewards to afk in. Just makes sense.
Most of the listed problems on the forums and a lot of QQ about bots, afkers, players just wanting to get there daily in depending on bracket 1-4 games. It makes sense to some taking a break from whatever they are doing to que up if they are low on AD and broke cause they don't know how to make AD to try and afk threw the PvP daily for 4000AD.
This is the problem!! Please remove AD from the PvP daily. I don't do PvP or the daily for it and don't want AD as a reward. Its stupid. Why would you reward me a PvP player with a PvE currency. Not only that you are encouraging botters and afkers to join a PvP game for this very small #$%^ reward. The current #$#% reward draws even worse players that don't care to do there daily AFK.
Simple fix to the afk, botter movement is the reward. I much rather have a PvP reward for the PvP daily. Maybe I am the only one that thinks this is common sense but really.
The rewards could be
PvP pots or battle elixirs
Glory
PvP unique dyes.
Coins to use in a PvP shop
Ect...ect...ect.. Remove AD as a reward from our PvP we don't want it. We do 20 matches a day and would like to see some PvP rewards from it. I doubt players would stop after there dungeon for PvP rewards to afk in. Just makes sense.
Removing the AD daily reward and substituting it with a glory reward is a terrible idea.
The bots are farming glory to sell for AD via PVp items. They aren't just queuing up 4 times a day to get they're 4k. Glory is constantly being devalued by the bots, as well as the introduction of GG with the next tier in pvp gear not available at glory vendors.
Also, AD is not a PVE currency. You can buy literally anything in the game with AD, it is universal.
The best way to eliminate the bots is to eliminate the reward for losing, both xp and glory.
As for AFKers they could just change the daily to "win 2 pvp matches" instead of "complete 4 pvp matches".
Removing the AD daily reward and substituting it with a glory reward is a terrible idea.
The bots are farming glory to sell for AD via PVp items. They aren't just queuing up 4 times a day to get they're 4k. Glory is constantly being devalued by the bots, as well as the introduction of GG with the next tier in pvp gear not available at glory vendors.
Also, AD is not a PVE currency. You can buy literally anything in the game with AD, it is universal.
The best way to eliminate the bots is to eliminate the reward for losing, both xp and glory.
As for AFKers they could just change the daily to "win 2 pvp matches" instead of "complete 4 pvp matches".
I want My AD PvP reward. Just make it so the OP doesn't get his cause he doesn't want his anymore. Also bots pvp not for the daily its for the glory. Why do you think even bots leave after awhile if they don't have 500pts cause they don't get any glory if under 500pts. Try to think things through before you post.
If YOU don't want it then don't accept the daily task for it. Don't dictate what everyone else may or may not want.
It not about me taking the daily. Its about botters, afker, and players that only join for the reward. Which is why it has to be removed to fix it. PvP daily should reward a PvP item
I like the daily AD reward but would gladly give it up to get rid of some of the botters.
This is the point I am trying to create. Of course its some extra free AD. If someone comes up to me on the street hey want 5 bucks sure ill take it even if I don't need it. Its the end result though. If there is no AD reward PvP will be a lot more enjoyable. A lot complained about something like the Project caravan nerf in leadership. Going from 200 to 100 AD. These are minor adjustments that are needed for the better of the game. 4000 AD is nothing for the price of better gameplay.
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tsailiyinMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2013
i have max glory.. max pots.. many dyes.. If you are max level for so long all that you mention are all max out
The best way to eliminate the bots is to eliminate the reward for losing, both xp and glory.
This.
However, there's a side effect to this. I've played an MMO once that didn't give any form of valuable rewards to the losing party, the indirect result from this was that it discourages people from actually participating after a while when they saw several people/groups dominating the arena, or when someone just started doing pvp/arena itself proly because of the psychological effect of "not getting anything anyway, why bother?".
As for the various replies regarding the OP, you guys are missing the point, it's not about the AD, it's not about the rewards, heck, it's not even about you or me as a pvp/arena participant or player in general. It's about eliminating the benefits or the motivation to "bot" pvp in the first place. Removing bot via technical methods were the hardest challenge any MMO developer faces, even top game developers such as Blizzard, CCPGames, NCSoft and Bioware are struggling with an effective way to reduce this problem to minimum, the most effective way to eliminate bots are to make them useless in the first place, not by putting blocks and obstacles to prevent their existence.
Removing the AD daily reward and substituting it with a glory reward is a terrible idea.
The bots are farming glory to sell for AD via PVp items. They aren't just queuing up 4 times a day to get they're 4k. Glory is constantly being devalued by the bots, as well as the introduction of GG with the next tier in pvp gear not available at glory vendors.
Also, AD is not a PVE currency. You can buy literally anything in the game with AD, it is universal.
The best way to eliminate the bots is to eliminate the reward for losing, both xp and glory.
As for AFKers they could just change the daily to "win 2 pvp matches" instead of "complete 4 pvp matches".
I didn't say substitute with glory. I said substitute with a PvP reward like glory. A new shop perhaps where you trade daily coins in. For new PvP elixirs and pots. The list can go on the fact is. AD isn't the correct reward. Anything would be a better reward then AD.
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tsailiyinMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Another kind of coin.. ill probably max it out too just like unicorn it turns into junnk
Then suggest something! We know that the AD reward doesn't work. I made this post for a constructive talk about the better options. Your suggestions for rewards are ?
I didn't say substitute with glory. I said substitute with a PvP reward like glory. A new shop perhaps where you trade daily coins in. For new PvP elixirs and pots. The list can go on the fact is. AD isn't the correct reward. Anything would be a better reward then AD.
Agreed.
This game lacks of PVP content is also an issue imho, and I honestly don't understand why Cryptic didn't separate PVP and PVE gear on this type of MMO. Mixing both have always resulted on balancing issues on many previous MMOs, from uber-geared PVE players that suddenly own face in PVP, people saturating the market with PVP rewards, motivation to do PVP, vice viersa, etc.
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tang56Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2013
Nope. I like my daily 4K of AD.
I'm not against widening the usefulness of items you can buy with your glory though. If dyes and stuff turned up in the PvP glory store, I won't complain(unless it's bugged).
Nope. I like my daily 4K of AD.
I'm not against widening the usefulness of items you can buy with your glory though. If dyes and stuff turned up in the PvP glory store, I won't complain(unless it's bugged).
If you are poor and need 4k AD a day I can give you that so that way PvP will be better. I mean you really need 4k AD a day which is hurting PvP? Doesn't make sense. Why do you PvP ? If its only for the AD reward then that is the problem.
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I like my AD daily reward and I do NOT want it taken away.
They need to fix the bot problem, but this is not the way.
ok. Speak for yourself, maybe?
As long as there is any reward for PvP (even the Glory) there's gonna be bots, it's just too easy to do it apparently.
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If YOU don't want it then don't accept the daily task for it. Don't dictate what everyone else may or may not want.
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Sometimes some other companies make these bots in other new games, to make players frustrated and eventually leave the game.
The bots are farming glory to sell for AD via PVp items. They aren't just queuing up 4 times a day to get they're 4k. Glory is constantly being devalued by the bots, as well as the introduction of GG with the next tier in pvp gear not available at glory vendors.
Also, AD is not a PVE currency. You can buy literally anything in the game with AD, it is universal.
The best way to eliminate the bots is to eliminate the reward for losing, both xp and glory.
As for AFKers they could just change the daily to "win 2 pvp matches" instead of "complete 4 pvp matches".
true ..............
If you like your AD daily reward you don't like PvP. Period. The reward just brings the afk, botter and bads out to play.
It not about me taking the daily. Its about botters, afker, and players that only join for the reward. Which is why it has to be removed to fix it. PvP daily should reward a PvP item
This is the point I am trying to create. Of course its some extra free AD. If someone comes up to me on the street hey want 5 bucks sure ill take it even if I don't need it. Its the end result though. If there is no AD reward PvP will be a lot more enjoyable. A lot complained about something like the Project caravan nerf in leadership. Going from 200 to 100 AD. These are minor adjustments that are needed for the better of the game. 4000 AD is nothing for the price of better gameplay.
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This.
However, there's a side effect to this. I've played an MMO once that didn't give any form of valuable rewards to the losing party, the indirect result from this was that it discourages people from actually participating after a while when they saw several people/groups dominating the arena, or when someone just started doing pvp/arena itself proly because of the psychological effect of "not getting anything anyway, why bother?".
As for the various replies regarding the OP, you guys are missing the point, it's not about the AD, it's not about the rewards, heck, it's not even about you or me as a pvp/arena participant or player in general. It's about eliminating the benefits or the motivation to "bot" pvp in the first place. Removing bot via technical methods were the hardest challenge any MMO developer faces, even top game developers such as Blizzard, CCPGames, NCSoft and Bioware are struggling with an effective way to reduce this problem to minimum, the most effective way to eliminate bots are to make them useless in the first place, not by putting blocks and obstacles to prevent their existence.
You do realize there will be less botters and rage quiters right ? Much improved gameplay is the end result.
I didn't say substitute with glory. I said substitute with a PvP reward like glory. A new shop perhaps where you trade daily coins in. For new PvP elixirs and pots. The list can go on the fact is. AD isn't the correct reward. Anything would be a better reward then AD.
Another kind of coin.. ill probably max it out too just like unicorn it turns into junnk
I would say
20 glory per kill
5 glory per assist.
Then a base amount for winning losing.
Then suggest something! We know that the AD reward doesn't work. I made this post for a constructive talk about the better options. Your suggestions for rewards are ?
Agreed.
This game lacks of PVP content is also an issue imho, and I honestly don't understand why Cryptic didn't separate PVP and PVE gear on this type of MMO. Mixing both have always resulted on balancing issues on many previous MMOs, from uber-geared PVE players that suddenly own face in PVP, people saturating the market with PVP rewards, motivation to do PVP, vice viersa, etc.
I'm not against widening the usefulness of items you can buy with your glory though. If dyes and stuff turned up in the PvP glory store, I won't complain(unless it's bugged).
The fight against bots is removing daily AD reward. You say remove bots yet don't say a method of how.
If you are poor and need 4k AD a day I can give you that so that way PvP will be better. I mean you really need 4k AD a day which is hurting PvP? Doesn't make sense. Why do you PvP ? If its only for the AD reward then that is the problem.