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scooterkhan
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DO NOT EVER , I MEAN EVER ..................USE KNOCK BACK IN DUNGEONS
I REPEAT , NEVER USE KNOCK BACK IN DUNGEONS , EVER
sick of seeing mage using knock back cuase they think they know how to play , only thing they do is get themselves and there party killed
end of rant .....party on
I REPEAT , NEVER USE KNOCK BACK IN DUNGEONS , EVER
sick of seeing mage using knock back cuase they think they know how to play , only thing they do is get themselves and there party killed
end of rant .....party on
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"SWEET JESUS ITS TAKING LONG ENUFF"
"SWEET JESUS ITS TAKING LONG ENUFF"
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You're what.... lvl 20? You have much to learn young one.
In epic dungeons, knockback becomes an essential part of clearing the dungeon, throwing mobs off of ledges or not.
Please, don't loot while fighting and RED circles = BAD, BLUE circles = GOOD... with that, and saying HI to your party you're set.
So annoying!
You must be running with some bad CW's, if you time your shield knockback to abit before singularity explosion, you knock them away, but they are instantly sucked up and put down in a small pile again, right at the feet of the melee guys, well at least this is what i do.
First time I tried not using repel ... Party died in high level dungeon 4 times, being overwhelmed by the adds of the boss fight.
I switch in my knock effects and suddenly we kick ***.
Tanking is a tough job, all we ask is a little common sense.
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What who said we needed you to complete any of those tasks. Dont need to you to group them. Entangling force on tab is quicker and better. Singularity also puts them in a nice bunch. What annoys me are tanks that think they should position them a certain way ussually to far from where they should be controlled.
You need to learn how to play with a CW before they need to learn how to play with you.
Edit: this was a touch harsh. You need the CW to control the mobs. If you have a good CW who thinks about the group if stacked with melee then they should control to help increase dps. When a CW casts Arcane singularity (black hole) expect them to shield burst (Massive AP gain and huge damage to all mobs) the mobs approx 1.5secs before they get sucked up. Save your AOE for when they drop down. Sometimes they may shield burst at a random time. No ones perfect. No they shouldnt use Icestorm (big icicles from the ground that sprays )only a few boss exceptions.
Now if you have two CW you will find yourself not getting much action. If they time it well (trash especially) just gets shield bursted and AS'd non stop and thats okay becuase your not taking damage and they mobs are dying.
Nothing personally annoys me more as a CW than group that want to fight mobs when they can be punted off cliffs. Dont make the run last a lot longer and a lot more expensive (pots) than it needs to be because you think it should be run the traditional way.
Hate to tell you but tanking for tanks(the guys in the shiny armor) really doesn't exist yet in this game. I don't have to do the most DPS..the mobs come to me..I sneeze..the mobs come to me...if mobs are on me..do I wait for a cleric to heal me rather than the "tank"?...no..I shield bump to get them off me.
Also, I would like you (all non CWs) to think about your top two AP building skills. Now imagine that those skills annoy me and I call you a **** for using them. Who cares that they do damage..who cares if they keep you alive..they don't make my game play easy..so you're a ****...yea..that's just what the OP has said to CWs
People should know that if your running CN dont pick up the green items. It just annoys people and most people just pick pass.
They arent worth squat.
Also when you run epics all enchantments and resources are need rolls by all. Dont feel bad thats the agreed way.
Another thing. When you see a chest everyone can loot it. When someone opens it and there is a green item in it a roll comes up. No one can open the chest again until that roll is completed. If the roll comes up choose anything just dont make people wait. It is just plainly annoying.
Also dont be an idiot and loot the chest then run off to attack mobs. that is selfish. Just wait until all get their shot at the items in the chest which can be blue or purple resource.
In T1s it is always the rogue who does this. Theres just something wrong with most of them.
*sigh* knockbacks to knock mobs off cliffs is one thing, knockbacks that scatter the mobs to kingdom come are what's bad in dungeons. If the tank is holding the aggro or kiting while the dps is on the boss then scattering the mobs is counter productive and will eventually wind up getting everyone dead fast.
Having played as a TR, DC and CW....I can tell you right now having a CW throw Ice Storm while I'm a TR hammering away at something and throwing it 50 feet behind me is the most irritating thing ever....I don't even use Ice Storm. Depending on the dungeon I swap my shield out for Ray of Enfeblement. There's no "control" whatsoever in Ice Storm it's an "oh ****" power useful only on low level mobs while leveling solo.
Shield and Repel (in the mastery slot) are useful for pushing mobs off cliffs, Shield Pulse can be useful if you find yourself alone and covered in a mob.
Just my two cents on the matter. I agree with the OP that shoving mobs and scattering mobs away from the dps is highly irritating.
Just my two cents
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Lies.
If you've already taunted them, they'll run straight back to you & neatly surround you. In which case....free combat advantage for me.
If the DDs have grabbed the aggro, let them die. They want to die.
If a CW or DC repels immediately before tank gets aggro, there only be three reasons:
1) They're attempting to knock the mobs off a ledge.
2) They're trying to commit suicide.
3) You were too slow on the taunt & the mobs have beelined straight for the DC/CW so the DC/CW is attempting to buy themselves time for you to properly taunt.
Sorry buddy id say worth nothing.
Shield should be used by every CW in every dungeon. Used just before AS sucks up the mobs is used correctly. Used to buy yourself and crappy team mates time is correct use as well. Repel in tab is handy in some cases i dont use it unless its spellplague last boss and CN last boss.
Shield in tab ? Not required as in tab just absorbs more damage which is not much and pushes mobs further away from you. Isnt that what you complained about
Please dont give advice if you dont know the class.
Yep nicely worked. I like to centre the AS on the GF most of the time. The ones i play with learn to keep away to the side of the boss while the rogue nukes it. I just suck them up and drop them on top of them and boom. Seems as you said they end up topping the damage on the runs that way. A GF running around trying to tank mobs. I ignore them unless they are bringing strays across for punting.
Lol k what you do ? Play fiddlesticks with trash. Engage them in a battle of riddles.
Maybe you ask them nicely to go away. How does that work.
Hello chaps we are here to take your loot and kill your leaders. Nothing to see here just passing through Mokay.
Generally you have to use damaging powers to reduce their health points to zero to move onto the next lot of trash to clear. Generally the more damage done in a faster time the better.
How do you do it ?
Didn't say I used shield in tab (never do) I said Repel in tab.
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Read this thread in work and now im home was just about to write the above lol
Dear OP calling people noobs (unless your joking) let alone typing all in caps is not a good idea if you want to be taken seriously.
In pretty low level dungeons its really not an issue as its run and gun without a death let alone a wipe and I only do it as a last resort if aggroed with something i cant handle (adds and im on cd's or oos to tele)
In higher level dungeons people who can really play their class have now schooled you on its merit and use.
Some interesting stuff on high level dungeons so thanks for that
If you're not using your knockbacks for tactical reasons such as knocking off cliffs or interrupting AOEs, then please just take them off your bar completely and slot in some powers that actually benefit your party. It's a sad state of affairs when you see GFs who would rather scatter enemies about in random fashion than actually try to pull and hold them, when you see CWs who have the best gathering move in the game but they refuse to use it.
I just shake my head at it all.
Seems a lot of people are upset that CWs "control" over mobs is a little better than theirs..Id suggest submitting a ticket to PWE.