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eaglerock1
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I have been playing on and off - so far I like I things but . . . .
I have cleric. I need a mace, or a club, or a flail. I cannot locate a weapon to use. I searched merchants at the Costers Market but the vendor I found only purveys swords. This is getting pretty frustrating for me; either I am totally missing a place or a UI button to purchase something or maces, flails and such are that hard to come by.
So, how can I get a weapon? I have been using that beginning spell-thingey for ever and it is getting old. Thanks for any input.
I have cleric. I need a mace, or a club, or a flail. I cannot locate a weapon to use. I searched merchants at the Costers Market but the vendor I found only purveys swords. This is getting pretty frustrating for me; either I am totally missing a place or a UI button to purchase something or maces, flails and such are that hard to come by.
So, how can I get a weapon? I have been using that beginning spell-thingey for ever and it is getting old. Thanks for any input.
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"Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
See thats why 4e DnD failed so badly.
That has nothing to do with 4e. Neverwinter put in more limits than what exists in 4e. I'm sure if they add the battle cleric class, it will use a mace.
Wow - no weapons for clerics? Weird. I am not saying it is right or wrong, just weird. My opinion is the clerics traditionally rely on their stout, devout, and unflappable belief in their respective deities to inspire their physical prowess, while healing and supporting as needed. At least that has been the historical role of clerics throughout RPG's, both pen and paper and digital. The current implementation seems to make the cleric more like a magic user. I want to swing a bludgeoning spiked chunk of metal in the name of my deity, not shoot disguised lightening bolts at enemies as I back away in order to avoid melee.
To put this into perspective,as this seems to be an evolution of design and rules changes brought about by the community, I played D&D in the 80's and most iterations of digital D&D since. I have somewhat of a handle on the evolution of rules changes over the decades, but this is shocking.
I am not whining, or chastising the new concepts and rules. To me, as I stated, this is shocking. No more maces, flails, and morning stars?! These were the staples of clerics RPG clerics for decades. I respect the design choice, as I must be in the minority.So . . .
What class is most like the old school cleric? I would like to sling a few spells, kneel to my favorite deity for some goodies, and hit monsters over the head when they get close. I might even want to shoot a few crossbow bolts!
Thanks for any useful input.
There are definitely mace weapon models in-game, and you can get a few for guardian fighters. There are also some powers for GFs that heal or otherwise buff your party, so you could try that route...
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Well, you didn't melee smack everything but it was close since you drew all aggro & tanked all mobs.
No they weren't. They were Devout Clerics. They were just changed during the development process. The depiction of them being 'severely nerfed' is questionable, too.
As for Neverwinter, I can understand the symbol, clerics are implement casters (holy symbol). Not having melee options is rather poor, especially since I can't make a Blaster Cleric, could they have let the clerics have a Shield proficiency?
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Oooh frying pan! Gimme a quest to steal a dragon's egg for dinner!
Eeek, no false information please!
Clerics have always been Devote Clerics in Neverwinter.
Devote Clerics focus on using divine energies to attack and heal allies rather than physical attacks. It's sort of similar to a Quincy in the Anime called "Bleach."
In PnP the rules are a lot less strict and Devote Clerics can use both physical and divine attacks but this is simply a limitation of the system as it was designed and really can't be resolved easily. It's the same reason fighters and rogues can't swap to bows, it simply doesn't marry well with the system.
We're almost guaranteed to get a melee Battle Cleric in the future but there is no way, currently, to equip a Devote Cleric with a mace and shield.
( ﾟ▽ﾟ)/ Holding you accountable for this information!
Gonna save a slot for a battle cleric.
People used to previous edition clerics log in ask where their weapon is and then either continue to moan about it nonstop or leave. There's no way they are ignoring that.
However what I want to know is why, considering third edition does exist, clerics or anybody else continue to use maces!? Or any other blundt weapons else for that matter. Five years of playing NWN and blunt weapons were always considered trash.
Most clerics in NWN used longswords in my experience. Heck I can't remember anybody besides NPC's using Maces at all on any of the dozens of servers I played on.
Why is this stigma so rampant here? I'd love a battle cleric but the last thing I ever want to see is a mace. I want my longsword when we get Battle Clerics.
Isn't sword is more like a paladin/blackguard's weapon? No matter, I'd still roll one, be it battle cleric/paladin/druid.
Third edition got rid of that restriction. Players could take the "Martial Weapon Proficiency" feat which would permit them to use any weapon a fighter could use which were, for the most part, stronger weapons. Also some races, such as elves, had their own weapon proficiencies so all elves could use Longswords and Longbows without spending any feats.
And that's why it baffles me why players still use the blunt weapons. In Neverwinter it's purely visuals but in PnP and in other games the other weapons have always been much stronger in my opinion and well within the rules to use in Third Edition.
I REALLY would love to see paladins wielding flails in this game.
Sometimes you just have to ignore what is mathematically best to fit the image inside your head of what you want your character to be.
Some players aren't fans of some of the changes that have been made to D&D over time.
I think that's pretty much common knowledge, so it baffles me that you aren't aware of that.
I would think the Holy Sword more associated with Paladins than flails, so I'd be keener on swords, but to each their own.
"Reluctant to shed blood, clerics are limited to blunt, bludgeoning weapons unless allowed other weapons by their dogma/mythos. Being trained for battle as well as spiritual works, they may use any armor or shield."
Sauce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleric_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29
The Holy Avenger would be neat and all but I would prefer to see some variation in weapons outside the sword and board for defenders and I have always liked flails and the weapon gets very little love in MMOs it seems.
However scrap the Paladin, give me a dwarven fighter I can go Bwhahahaha with:
I've seen quite a few mentions that some classes were overly powerful and clerics and druids were among them (mostly to the detriment of classes like fighters).
If you have no limitations to the use of tools of the trade, then I guess having magics of any kind available vs. being limited to martial skills seems lopsided.
Just for that reason alone I'd expect much more restrictions in an mmoRPG than in PnP. Where a DM can rule in detail what is fine or not, in an mmoRPG you have to at least make an attempt to have a decent balance lest some classes rule and others get pushed to the side lines. Look at what had been going on for the poor GWFs and GFs for a long time.
If clerics could wield powerful weapons, hit like a truck, tank like a paladin and heal at the same time, you'd end up with parties full of various clerics and nothing else.
That said, I have entertained the idea of a guild based on religious type classes exclusively, once more are available. Think Inquisition or something ^_^ (and we'd base our strength on fear, ruthlessness and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope.. and no one will expect us xD )
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I had a rogue weapon that looks like an axe drop for me once. It's just a low level green weapon, but it looks HAMSTER... so I banked it in case I ever want to apply its appearance to my rogue's daggers.
I've also seen axes and clubs for GF and GWF, rather than swords.
As for Clerics, the Wondrous Bazaar sells a "Scepter of Power" for around 14k AD. I'm sure it's still a ranged weapon with more or less the same attack animation (so not the bash-things-with-a-mace kind of scepter), but its appearance is probably very different from the usual cleric symbols. Closer to the classical mace wielding cleric image. I'm half-tempted to pick it up just to see what it looks like. Really wish we could preview the visuals of items without buying them.
If I remember right, the Tarmalune Bar merchant also has some alternative weapons. Can't remember what they are though.
The only class I've never seen alternative weapons for is the CW. Real shame... nothing against the floating ball - very jedi-esque and all - but I do like my old-fashioned, staff-wielding wizard image.
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A dwarf fighter spinning around with double flails are win win. (＾∇＾)