Not sure how to take a screenshot of my feats so I will have to name them.
I've been having alot of success with this build, maybe someone else has one like it already I'm not sure, I havent looked at the class builds. I use to use a build similar to Deistiks, but after patch I changed things up and I am healing for more then I ever have before. Lemme know what you think
5/5 Deepstone Blessing
5/5 Enduring Relief
5/5 Linked Spirit
5/5 Power of Life
5/5 Invigorated Healing
5/5 Mark of Mending
1/1 Greater Divine Power
At-Wills:
Sacred Flame
Astral Seal
Divine Fortune
Healers Lore
Encounters: Astral Shield, Healing Word, Sunburst
Dailys: Hollowed Ground, Divine Armor(in close call situations for the temp hp)
The amount of Health I am pouring out using Sacred Flame is just ridiculous. I am loving the Temporary hitpoint gains for the party and myself, and the healing bonus's from that is excellent. With just Sacred Flame I am critting for 5-7kheals. The Bonus's for Healers Lore for Healing % and the stat increase, combined with the bonus's from healing after Chaneling Divine is huuuuuge.
So far my largest crit on a divine mode Healing Word is 13.5k on party member, and 7.8k for self heal.
For T2's with this build, I have been very successful in good groups not even using Astral Shield. I have been trying to swap it out for Bastion of Health. With this build AS is adding temp hps, which is giving me a bonus to heals because of it, so when I do chose to use AS, the heals are huge.
I know alot of people still believe in using Brand of the Sun, but with this build its silly. Sacred flame is the way to go, as it adds bonus's to healing.
I'm sorry I couldnt take a picture, if you are interested you'll just have to put neverwinter in window mode to compare. I am loooooooooooving this build guys, I have zero complaints about the patch. However, Righteousness still needs to be removed. God help them when it does, with this build you will be unstoppable in PvP and PvE if played right.
Lastnight in my last PvP Dom, I fought 3v1, myself, against 2 rogues, and 1 CW. Whittled them all down, was about a 4 minute fight, then my group came and helped me finish them off. Thats surviving dailys from both Rogues, AND the CW Ice Knife.
Cant say how much I love this build and what its doing for me
mrvincent1959Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 740Arc User
edited June 2013
I use Sacred Flame as well instead of Brand Of The Sun. I like that extra heal. I am having a good time as healer until I get into end-boss fights in T2 dungeons. Then the fun stops. Its like all my anti-aggro gets deleted and I melt along with the rest of the group.
Build looks good .. if you can stand to use sacred flame and be rooted to the spot (I can't) but I have a couple of questions.
You say AS is adding temp hp with this build. How?
Also, what do you do, with no forsight, 1/3 toughness, no holy resolve and 1.5k def when a GF Threatening Rush into Frontline Surge into Lunging Strike?
Otherwise looks good I've always felt that Healing Word was rather underrated (with the right set up).
Build looks good .. if you can stand to use sacred flame and be rooted to the spot (I can't) but I have a couple of questions.
You say AS is adding temp hp with this build. How?
Also, what do you do, with no forsight, 1/3 toughness, no holy resolve and 1.5k def when a GF Threatening Rush into Frontline Surge into Lunging Strike?
Otherwise looks good I've always felt that Healing Word was rather underrated (with the right set up).
AS is not adding temp health. Half asleep writing it. What I meant to say was the bonus's to heals, to team members with temp heals, +AS, the heals are huge. The build is all about Temp hps and the bonus's from, with a possible 28%to healing and more, in a perfect heal.
What do I do when a GF does that? Try and dodge like everyone else /shrug. No one really does much when they do that,....Kinda silly actually you pointing that out,. I can tank 2 rogues and a cw, but a Tank of all things can hit me for 14k, kewl
What do I do when a GF does that? Try and dodge like everyone else /shrug. No one really does much when they do that,....Kinda silly actually you pointing that out,. I can tank 2 rogues and a cw, but a Tank of all things can hit me for 14k, kewl
I don't think it was silly and I didn't point anything out, I asked a question. Also, since you're so focused on temp hp AND you pvp, no points in Holy Resolve is what's silly, as is relying soley on dodge. It does look like it could really push out the numbers in PVE but PVP wise I think it is sub par unless you always premade, always get peels and can always stand at the back spamming sacred flame (and can go back in time to before the 20th).
I don't think it was silly and I didn't point anything out, I asked a question. Also, since you're so focused on temp hp AND you pvp, no points in Holy Resolve is what's silly, as is relying soley on dodge. It does look like it could really push out the numbers in PVE but PVP wise I think it is sub par unless you always premade, always get peels and can always stand at the back spamming sacred flame (and can go back in time to before the 20th).
I wasnt making fun of you, was merely laughing at the irony of you talking about GF, cuz they seem to be my nemesis
I'm on the Mindflayer server, and always down to PvP. I am doing very well in PvP with this build, as I said before about tanking 2 rogues and a cw and living through a 4 minute fight. I'm not the stand in the back kind of guy, thus far this build is cranking out the numbers for me, so staying in the middle of the fight is where I've been fighting.
I wasnt making fun of you, was merely laughing at the irony of you talking about GF, cuz they seem to be my nemesis
I'm on the Mindflayer server, and always down to PvP. I am doing very well in PvP with this build, as I said before about tanking 2 rogues and a cw and living through a 4 minute fight. I'm not the stand in the back kind of guy, thus far this build is cranking out the numbers for me, so staying in the middle of the fight is where I've been fighting.
Look me up if your on Mindflayer
Barabus The Gray
I'm on Dragon =/ and yea GFs are a pain. So much so, I rolled one to get a better idea. I just can't see how you don't get squashed like a bug with out some of the "survivability" feats (not that they count for a great deal, granted) but playstyle and situational awareness are more important, I suppose. It's all good , I just know I wouldn't be tanking much of anything without those buffers. I know the cooldown on Holy Resolve is ****ty but it's an extra buffer and I think you can manage without healing advantage tbh. I did try a similar build to yours but I just don't like using sacred flame. I might give it another go though since I generally end up dissatisfied with everything I try at the moment. Anyway, cheers.
I'm on Dragon =/ and yea GFs are a pain. So much so, I rolled one to get a better idea. I just can't see how you don't get squashed like a bug with out some of the "survivability" feats (not that they count for a great deal, granted) but playstyle and situational awareness are more important, I suppose. It's all good , I just know I wouldn't be tanking much of anything without those buffers. I know the cooldown on Holy Resolve is ****ty but it's an extra buffer and I think you can manage without healing advantage tbh. I did try a similar build to yours but I just don't like using sacred flame. I might give it another go though since I generally end up dissatisfied with everything I try at the moment. Anyway, cheers.
I get crushed sometimes, its PvP..no build can stop that from happening. But I am taking on multiples and surviving, because of heal numbers..not defensive stats
well...power stones, power stones on gear, power stones on companion, 2, +450power set bonus's...so yes, you can.
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cassiegoesrawrMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
sounds nice and everything , but without Screen shots of either Your Actually Stats/Feats, And you Healing that much, cant support the build. my stats are close to this and my heals arent that high. so would love some screens of your Stats/Gs etc and You healling as much as you say you do. And when you say Divine Mode with healing word. the 13k crit are u talking about the Pure heal itself or Total.? Pure heal+ the Ticks?
sounds nice and everything , but without Screen shots of either Your Actually Stats/Feats, And you Healing that much, cant support the build. my stats are close to this and my heals arent that high. so would love some screens of your Stats/Gs etc and You healling as much as you say you do. And when you say Divine Mode with healing word. the 13k crit are u talking about the Pure heal itself or Total.? Pure heal+ the Ticks?
How do you post a screenshot of your feats and combat damage/heals? I'd love to know and then I'll post some
I was very skeptical of this build at first, however, I gave it a shot and have to say, not half freaking bad! It does indeed work! I've never felt more competent in keeping other people alive, but what's really impressive is that I've managed to keep myself alive rather well, righteousness and all. Thank you for sharing! (I made a couple of adjustments to fit my style of play better, but overall, thumbs up)
I was very skeptical of this build at first, however, I gave it a shot and have to say, not half freaking bad! It does indeed work! I've never felt more competent in keeping other people alive, but what's really impressive is that I've managed to keep myself alive rather well, righteousness and all. Thank you for sharing! (I made a couple of adjustments to fit my style of play better, but overall, thumbs up)
Glad ya like it man, puts out alooooot of heals. Get good with giving a right click heal in div mode to a player, then div mode healing word, and maaaaaaaan....watch the heals just pooourrr out..huge numbers.
I decided to give this a try tonight, I got in a few CN runs and a couple of Karru's and it seemed to work pretty well. This build definitely does pump out some pretty gaudy healing numbers.
I did switch a few things around though, I took 5 points from invigorated healing and put them into righteous rage instead and I put a point into bountiful fortune instead of greater divine power.
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reagan247Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Actually realized I have the same build as you but instead of healing word I used Forgemaster's. I don't think I've ever reached 5k heal before, but of course my power is only like 2K+ :P
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mrvincent1959Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 740Arc User
edited June 2013
You have 5 points in Linked Spirit. It says you have to be in Channel Divinity mode for it to work. How do you make this work?
If its used in Sun Burst it will knock back which we dont want most of the time. Do you have to do that thing where you hit Sun Burst and then switch into Div Mode before it procs?
Linked Spirit is bugged since the balance patch so people are using it as a crutch until it either gets fixed or we get some improvements to our other healing skills.
The question with your spec is does 11% damage reduction from foresight equate to 15% healing from healers lore. Since our healing numbers are smaller than the damage mobs do at end game content, damage reduction is more valuable point for point as raising a smaller number (our heals) is not as good as decreasing the bigger number (mob damage).
Linked Spirit is bugged since the balance patch so people are using it as a crutch until it either gets fixed or we get some improvements to our other healing skills.
The question with your spec is does 11% damage reduction from foresight equate to 15% healing from healers lore. Since our healing numbers are smaller than the damage mobs do at end game content, damage reduction is more valuable point for point as raising a smaller number (our heals) is not as good as decreasing the bigger number (mob damage).
Sometimes I swap, and put in Foresight, depends on the fight. I always have Healers Lore active though, never take it out. With Channel Divinity, for instance going into a big fight, or going into cap the first middle tier in pvp. I go into divinity, right click heal for maybe 1 second, then use Healing WOrd Divinity, swap out of Divinity and sunburst. Everyone in group getting stat bonus's, plus around 28% + to healing according to my figuring. That is my biggest HPS that I have been able to push, using that combo. If I have only one PiP left, I dont waste it on Astral Shield/Divinity, I always use a Healing Word, cuz it procs such huge numbers. I just throw down a normal Astral to negate damage. With this build I am "not" dependant on Astral Shield to survive, nor is my group, its just an added bonus when I have the blue shield out instead of the yellow.
Just want to clarify also. The big crits I was talking about, they arent happening ALL the time of course. They are just my largest.
The more I play this build, the more and more huge crits I am getting though. There definately is a rotation so to speak to get the best out of this build. If you arent using Sacred Flame in this build, then you arent going to produce these big numbers.
A "best" rotation would look like this.
Astral Seal from afar, Healing Word on team member, Divine Mode/Soothing Light to gain the bonus of Linked spirit, then Healing Word on same player, swap out of divine, Sunburst in middle of bad guy crowd, then start Sacred Flame. All this can be done in a matter of about 2 seconds or so, the whole group has bonus to stats, regen, and a 28% bonus to healing. This build when done right, makes Sunburst an excellent heal, I've heard alot of complaints about it, but its one of my best heals and I loves it. If I have a good amount of Divine Power, I'll use Astral Shield w/Divinity. Generally in PvP, its always fast paced and I may not always have alot of DP, so I save it instead for a divine Healing Word, and keep Astral Shield normal up when it pops.
I've had alot of very frustrated people lately in PvP trying to take me out(of course I get owned sometimes), but it is VERY hard to kill a cleric using this build, if done right. I'm constantly in the middle of the pack, being focus'd, and surviving. Because of the regen, stat bonus, invig heals constantly coming in etc etc.
Love this build guys. By no means saying its the best, but I am definately not looking for another build atm. The way I play, this build is perfect for "my" playstyle, and healing has become pretty easy.
If you arent happy with your build, or want to try something new, I encourage you to try it out.
Still have yet to figure out how to take a screenshot of my feats and stats, but I'll work on trying to make a video. Anyone have a decent free program they use?
My machine should be able to handle a video program I think.
16gig Ram
Radeon 7970 x2 in sli
3930k Sandy bridge I7@4.2ghz
Asus P9x79 deluxe mobo
1200 corsair ax psu
Sometimes I swap, and put in Foresight, depends on the fight. I always have Healers Lore active though, never take it out. With Channel Divinity, for instance going into a big fight, or going into cap the first middle tier in pvp. I go into divinity, right click heal for maybe 1 second, then use Healing WOrd Divinity, swap out of Divinity and sunburst. Everyone in group getting stat bonus's, plus around 28% + to healing according to my figuring.
They aren't getting any stats if you're casting SB without divinity, unless you're using the tab trick - apart from the 5% you're giving to those single targets with HW and Soothing Light (your "right click heal").
No. Only heals that are classed as "heals" and only from divine mode. Which means HW, SB and BoH. With divine HW you will only be giving 5% stats to one target. Sunburst and BoH are the best to make it OP it seems. With sunburst you either deal with the knock back or cast out of divinity and quickly switch to divinity before the spell hits. Nice short cooldown and pretty much everyone is used to using that spell. With BoH you deal with a smaller radius and 18 sec cooldown but without using "tricks" this will be your best bet for getting the "healing multiple tagets" OP buff.
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You say AS is adding temp hp with this build. How?
Also, what do you do, with no forsight, 1/3 toughness, no holy resolve and 1.5k def when a GF Threatening Rush into Frontline Surge into Lunging Strike?
Otherwise looks good I've always felt that Healing Word was rather underrated (with the right set up).
Meh ? :eek:
AS is not adding temp health. Half asleep writing it. What I meant to say was the bonus's to heals, to team members with temp heals, +AS, the heals are huge. The build is all about Temp hps and the bonus's from, with a possible 28%to healing and more, in a perfect heal.
What do I do when a GF does that? Try and dodge like everyone else /shrug. No one really does much when they do that,....Kinda silly actually you pointing that out,. I can tank 2 rogues and a cw, but a Tank of all things can hit me for 14k, kewl
I don't think it was silly and I didn't point anything out, I asked a question. Also, since you're so focused on temp hp AND you pvp, no points in Holy Resolve is what's silly, as is relying soley on dodge. It does look like it could really push out the numbers in PVE but PVP wise I think it is sub par unless you always premade, always get peels and can always stand at the back spamming sacred flame (and can go back in time to before the 20th).
I wasnt making fun of you, was merely laughing at the irony of you talking about GF, cuz they seem to be my nemesis
I'm on the Mindflayer server, and always down to PvP. I am doing very well in PvP with this build, as I said before about tanking 2 rogues and a cw and living through a 4 minute fight. I'm not the stand in the back kind of guy, thus far this build is cranking out the numbers for me, so staying in the middle of the fight is where I've been fighting.
Look me up if your on Mindflayer
Barabus The Gray
I'm on Dragon =/ and yea GFs are a pain. So much so, I rolled one to get a better idea. I just can't see how you don't get squashed like a bug with out some of the "survivability" feats (not that they count for a great deal, granted) but playstyle and situational awareness are more important, I suppose. It's all good , I just know I wouldn't be tanking much of anything without those buffers. I know the cooldown on Holy Resolve is ****ty but it's an extra buffer and I think you can manage without healing advantage tbh. I did try a similar build to yours but I just don't like using sacred flame. I might give it another go though since I generally end up dissatisfied with everything I try at the moment. Anyway, cheers.
I've not seen rogues with that much power or CW.
I get crushed sometimes, its PvP..no build can stop that from happening. But I am taking on multiples and surviving, because of heal numbers..not defensive stats
You can get to 6k power with power stones? ok.
How do you post a screenshot of your feats and combat damage/heals? I'd love to know and then I'll post some
Should just make a video.
Glad ya like it man, puts out alooooot of heals. Get good with giving a right click heal in div mode to a player, then div mode healing word, and maaaaaaaan....watch the heals just pooourrr out..huge numbers.
Linked Spirit works with every Heal ?
I did switch a few things around though, I took 5 points from invigorated healing and put them into righteous rage instead and I put a point into bountiful fortune instead of greater divine power.
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If its used in Sun Burst it will knock back which we dont want most of the time. Do you have to do that thing where you hit Sun Burst and then switch into Div Mode before it procs?
thx
The question with your spec is does 11% damage reduction from foresight equate to 15% healing from healers lore. Since our healing numbers are smaller than the damage mobs do at end game content, damage reduction is more valuable point for point as raising a smaller number (our heals) is not as good as decreasing the bigger number (mob damage).
Sometimes I swap, and put in Foresight, depends on the fight. I always have Healers Lore active though, never take it out. With Channel Divinity, for instance going into a big fight, or going into cap the first middle tier in pvp. I go into divinity, right click heal for maybe 1 second, then use Healing WOrd Divinity, swap out of Divinity and sunburst. Everyone in group getting stat bonus's, plus around 28% + to healing according to my figuring. That is my biggest HPS that I have been able to push, using that combo. If I have only one PiP left, I dont waste it on Astral Shield/Divinity, I always use a Healing Word, cuz it procs such huge numbers. I just throw down a normal Astral to negate damage. With this build I am "not" dependant on Astral Shield to survive, nor is my group, its just an added bonus when I have the blue shield out instead of the yellow.
The more I play this build, the more and more huge crits I am getting though. There definately is a rotation so to speak to get the best out of this build. If you arent using Sacred Flame in this build, then you arent going to produce these big numbers.
A "best" rotation would look like this.
Astral Seal from afar, Healing Word on team member, Divine Mode/Soothing Light to gain the bonus of Linked spirit, then Healing Word on same player, swap out of divine, Sunburst in middle of bad guy crowd, then start Sacred Flame. All this can be done in a matter of about 2 seconds or so, the whole group has bonus to stats, regen, and a 28% bonus to healing. This build when done right, makes Sunburst an excellent heal, I've heard alot of complaints about it, but its one of my best heals and I loves it. If I have a good amount of Divine Power, I'll use Astral Shield w/Divinity. Generally in PvP, its always fast paced and I may not always have alot of DP, so I save it instead for a divine Healing Word, and keep Astral Shield normal up when it pops.
I've had alot of very frustrated people lately in PvP trying to take me out(of course I get owned sometimes), but it is VERY hard to kill a cleric using this build, if done right. I'm constantly in the middle of the pack, being focus'd, and surviving. Because of the regen, stat bonus, invig heals constantly coming in etc etc.
Love this build guys. By no means saying its the best, but I am definately not looking for another build atm. The way I play, this build is perfect for "my" playstyle, and healing has become pretty easy.
If you arent happy with your build, or want to try something new, I encourage you to try it out.
Still have yet to figure out how to take a screenshot of my feats and stats, but I'll work on trying to make a video. Anyone have a decent free program they use?
My machine should be able to handle a video program I think.
16gig Ram
Radeon 7970 x2 in sli
3930k Sandy bridge I7@4.2ghz
Asus P9x79 deluxe mobo
1200 corsair ax psu
They aren't getting any stats if you're casting SB without divinity, unless you're using the tab trick - apart from the 5% you're giving to those single targets with HW and Soothing Light (your "right click heal").
No. Only heals that are classed as "heals" and only from divine mode. Which means HW, SB and BoH. With divine HW you will only be giving 5% stats to one target. Sunburst and BoH are the best to make it OP it seems. With sunburst you either deal with the knock back or cast out of divinity and quickly switch to divinity before the spell hits. Nice short cooldown and pretty much everyone is used to using that spell. With BoH you deal with a smaller radius and 18 sec cooldown but without using "tricks" this will be your best bet for getting the "healing multiple tagets" OP buff.