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I'm done with pushing stuff off ledges. /quit
arcbladez
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I'm done with my CW. You didn't wanna improve the CW class in this patch from just being a "Push mobs off ledge" class, well that's it! I'm done. I'm not doing dungeons on her ever again. I don't wanna spend time gearing up a TR just to DPS. I don't wanna spend time gearing up another DPS class so I can actually just have fun playing a DPS class!
Either put invisible walls on all ledges so you can't knock stuff off, or give all classes, or at least TR a knockback ability so they can knock HAMSTER off the ledges! Or do like in WoW where mobs are on a leash!!! YES! If you found a way to knock mobs off in World of Warcraft, they would somehow respawn at the top of climb up a vertical wall and you'll be forced to fight them again!
I'm sick and tired of being the top DPS of every dungeon I join, only to be told: "Use singularity near ledge and knock them off" when we arrive in an area with ledges!
IT'S BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knocking stuff off ledges is so **** BORING!!! It makes my class so boring and unappealing to play! I have to give up my spell Mastery slot for Repel, just so I can knock multiple mobs off! Why can't I just keep Chill Strike there and top the DPS meters and make TR cry that they can't keep up to a CW like me?
Yes I know it makes the runs go faster because we don't have to worry about killing adds anymore, but that makes the game feel so cheap!!! I've never played a MMORPG in my entire life where 1 class was responsable for knocking adds off ledges to avoid fighting them! You might as well just remove adds from dungeons all together that way CW won't be forced to be the ones to knock'em over ledges as if there was no adds there in the first place!
Either put invisible walls on all ledges so you can't knock stuff off, or give all classes, or at least TR a knockback ability so they can knock HAMSTER off the ledges! Or do like in WoW where mobs are on a leash!!! YES! If you found a way to knock mobs off in World of Warcraft, they would somehow respawn at the top of climb up a vertical wall and you'll be forced to fight them again!
I'm sick and tired of being the top DPS of every dungeon I join, only to be told: "Use singularity near ledge and knock them off" when we arrive in an area with ledges!
IT'S BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knocking stuff off ledges is so **** BORING!!! It makes my class so boring and unappealing to play! I have to give up my spell Mastery slot for Repel, just so I can knock multiple mobs off! Why can't I just keep Chill Strike there and top the DPS meters and make TR cry that they can't keep up to a CW like me?
Yes I know it makes the runs go faster because we don't have to worry about killing adds anymore, but that makes the game feel so cheap!!! I've never played a MMORPG in my entire life where 1 class was responsable for knocking adds off ledges to avoid fighting them! You might as well just remove adds from dungeons all together that way CW won't be forced to be the ones to knock'em over ledges as if there was no adds there in the first place!
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Go figure OP's mindset
The more I spend playing this game the more I am finding it harder to convince myself to stick around. I am old AD&D pnp player from years ago and when I was told about this game from a buddy of mine I jumped at the chance to check it out, it also freed me from playing World of Warcraft a little bit. I have to say, overall the game is fun, if you don't mind the more (Hack-N-Slash) feel the game has. It really reminds me more of an action Adventure game then it does an Mmorpg game.
It offers No open world to explore, it offers very little in the way of Pve boss mechanics (Unless your idea of challenging is Avoiding Big Red Aoe Zones Followed by massive add spawns who also summon Big Red Aoe Zones), which I don't. The dungeons All seem to be pretty OVER TUNED for normal pickup groups too clear. Hell, thats a Majority of your playerbase for Mmo's are random casual players who find the game Interesting and want to have fun with other players.
Cryptic offers little in the way of character exploration, in terms of trying out new specs, (Charging players to re-spec isn't right) I get it, but it's still not right. Things like keys, bank slots, extra bags for storage, should all be a normal feature in this game, charing players for those perks is complete Bs. It's not a need to have those items, but they are infact items that most Mmo companies acknowledge as being fundamental staple for players to have (Without paying real cash for them).
Anyways, at this point I'm not sure how much longer I plan on sticking around. It's been an ok experience and it gave me a chance to play something different then World of Warcraft after 9 years. I really like the idea of an Mmo D&D game where the Developers create a massive world for players to explore, to travel around in and experience D&D with friends. Sadly Nwo gives me one path to follow straight to level 60 and farming Over tuned Dungeons for purple gear.
Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor.
~Sholom Aleichem
Why the hell are we taking out the trash anyway? It's supposed to be a game, not a boring annoying chore.
No xp, no loot, no fun, waste of time garbage in dungeons is just pathetic.
If its really DnD based, then it is very possible for you or the mobs can be knocked off of cliffs if you both have the ability to do so. Or if you have the ability that cannot be knocked off (usually the boss). So it is up to the dungeon designer really. Invisible wall idea is dumb. If you wanna block, why not just design a big rock or wall for that purpose. Also you cant compare a DnD based game to something like WoW/Rift. In DnD, you are supposed to be able to use terrain to your advantage where WoW/Rift , terrain is for "look" or part of a mechanics where raiders will die if fall off a cliff (in an instance but in open world you get no falling damage which is stupid) or something but Boss/mobs are designed to go after you no matter what period.
But what annoys me most is the "glitches" that being exploited by the players and slow to get fixed by developers. It just ruins the game experience for me.
The real reason for your rant... lolz
GL and hope you can find some enjoyment in the class.
-TR
The problem here is the game design imo. As someone else said,every boss from the start is mostly 1 big dude spamming big hitting skills with nice red lines on where it will hit! And a huge load of adds spawning once in a while..
But its all new,maybe things change someday :P I do have to say that i enjoy other classes more then CW when i get pushed into the "knock off" role.. But for the time beeing,as the poster above me said,thats our job and it seems its WAI,unless i have missed a statement that its not wich might happend.
I run with well geared players who dont fail on any content and i find myself top of the dps charts the vast majority of the time. I dont why you have such a huge issue wit ith. You seem to post the same rant over and over.
Sure single target dps no chance but we clear tons of trash by default.
Are you being lazy on your runs...
The hate is swelling in you now............ Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant.
I top DPS charts all the time in PUG runs in T2's. It's not difficult to beat people not geared as well as I am(11k+), or DPS who are specced wrong or who don't know proper skill rotations. You obviously run with people of whom I just mentioned.
I run with one of the (possibly the) best geared GWF on the server. Same with one of the top 3 DPS GF's on the server. Both of them will out AoE DPS me. And while I beat the rogue during trash, he catches up easily after a boss. Clearing CN in way under an hour each run.
Not sure where you get your single target info from, but we do the second best single target damage.
Be a good boy and do your job as intended by Cryptic. Knock mobs off ledges and chain cast Singularity.
If a designer wanted the ledge to work as a kill source, they could always add traps or damage tiles on the lower ledge to either soften or kill the mobs knocked down there.
It's time for you to find another game then .
If so its an example of what not to do in an MMO. ^The occasional knock something off would be fun, if it was challenging and not so frequently happening. But when your "job" is to knock mobs off a cliff it kills any sense of immersiveness.
How about if they gave you an AoE taunt that adds a "root" status, which in turn makes them immune to push/pull effects?
Well, it sounds like you have gathered all the terrible CWs to your bosom. You can keep them. Proper CWs actually gather mobs. If you didn't exclusively group with Bads, you'd know this.
what the game needs are new powers and paragons.
posted a thread regarding that, now the game is live still nothing is new
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?354452-to-cryptic-devs
you guys are like.. saying that theres no room for innovation/ideas for the game. you are like big guys who still play barbie dolls at age 60
other MMOs have meteorites falling down from the sky, and you guys still love those ****ty ice cubes?
I have to say that with each patch and whiney brat kid (I want it my way.. whaaa) I lose just a little more interest in this game until I reach the point that I take my money elsewhere. Devs need to stop molding their games towards every comment and stand up and say enjoy my game the way it is or *&^% off.
Firstly, the bypass "exploits" further exacerbates the problem that dungeons are no longer about a team fighting and winning a challenging dungeon, it becomes a speed-run through to rob the end boss at the end, only done during a Delve event because that maximizes loot. That's pretty dull for people who actually enjoy the cooperative effort of getting that done with a good team and the satisfaction of winning fair and square.
The ledge-pushing is a far bigger issue though, because it amps up the de facto power of the CW class way beyond what it should be. Instead of all five current classes being just as valid to take into a dungeon, suddenly specific classes get prioritized and others get marginalized because the rabid loot-robber team I described is going to demand there are such accidentally overpowered classes strongly represented when doing epic content.
So the bypassing of mobs is bad for the feeling of immersion into the game, and the large scale mob-shoving is a de facto class imbalancer and game breaker that needs to be addressed.
If pushing is something that's factored in and considered an expected tactic by Cryptic then fine. If it's not and it's a way to ramp up the power of the CW beyond where it's supposed to be, it has to be stamped out and eradicated, simple as that.