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  • allaerraallaerra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 838 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Wow, the cheaters get really defensive:rolleyes:.

    I like to run a dungeon and get the chests and Easter Eggs. I also find some of the mini bosses drop good loot. Sometimes even the better loot.

    People talk about boring this, and rushing that, just for loot. So is the whole game one big loot fest for you? Why bother playing if it all bores you? I like exploring the Dungeon, I am guessing that is why they made them so long, put several mini bosses in and several hidden areas, chests, and skill nodes. Because D&D is about exploring.
  • xilinearxilinear Member Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Stop pugging, your that type of person who demands that every single mob be pulled.. Seriously.. go find a guild and get THEM to clear every mob with your slow ***. (Tell me how long it lasts)

    Example:

    Me: hey guys, lets hug the wall and skip this pull!
    pug 1: awesome lets do it!
    pug 2: sure
    pug 3: wow, did not know that! Leets thx!
    YOU: OMG why you wanna skip trash, that is CHEATING. I am going to report you for not clearing this mob right here

    Me: *YOU* has been kicked from group for being a pain in my <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.


    You sir are an idiot. Hugging the wall is not cheating. Jumping in the green void and typing /unstuck after 10-20 sec is. Get your fecking facts right.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    If you consider skipping several groups of mobs cheating, then you're saying skipping any mobs cheating. You are saying that its CHEATING to avoid any pulls ... It is the same thing. Sorry, but your just that really annoying person that ends up pulling the trash us others want to skip just to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> us off. If you do not like skipping things, try getting your own group together, otherwise no one is going to want to group with someone who wants to go threw the PAIN of beating every single mob in every single instance.

    I did not say cheating was avoiding any pulls LOL now you are just making stuff up. I Am talking about cheats like the teleport one using the stuck command.. reading comprehension epic fail lol.
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    xilinear wrote: »
    You sir are an idiot. Hugging the wall is not cheating. Jumping in the green void and typing /unstuck after 10-20 sec is. Get your fecking facts right.

    Skipping trash is skipping trash. No matter how you manage to do it. How is hugging the wall not cheating, please explain... PW intended you to beat the trash.. right? .. but you happen to find an error in the map design that allows you to skip it (Sounds F'ing familiar does it not?)

    Just think about that, and tell me how you can justify skipping a mob due to bad map placement is any different then skipping a mob due to lack of proper map design.
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Yup, I hate the fact that most groups want to use tonnes of geometry exploits to skip content. Partly, it's because I feel it to be wrong and cheesy, and partly because I am not Sonic the motherloving Hedgehog.

    I'd rather play the game without getting abuse for not wanting to hope about the place like a bellend, just as much as I don't want to have ingame voice on (which seems to go hand in hand with such groups). I don't want to exploit, and I don't want to listen to an American teen munching cheetos into his mic and whining.

    Yes, the dungeons are boring right now, because lots of basic mechanics don't work, and it's just a LOLzerg. However, it's just as tedious to be expected to hop around.
  • chato83chato83 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    falson1 are you a paladin IRL?

    Its the Dev's fault if they dont want to fix this and cant make a map right.
    people will use any shortcut they can, because so many trash, time spent, effort, for little reward is not worth it.
    hell, even chest rewards are sometimes bugged or <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. nothign good to buy with seals, etc.

    The question here is, How is it that u are amazed people want to skip?
  • etherealjetherealj Member Posts: 1,091 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Skipping trash is skipping trash. No matter how you manage to do it. How is hugging the wall no cheating, please explain... PW intended you to beat the trash.. right? .. but you happen to find an error in the map design that allows you to skip it (Sounds F'ing familiar does it not?)

    Not my fault if a map designer puts a couple giants too far against the wall.
    Use the <removed exploit lead-in> to interact with the auction vendor.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    chato83 wrote: »
    falson1 are you a paladin IRL?

    Its the Dev's fault if they dont want to fix this and cant make a map right.
    people will use any shortcut they can, because so many trash, time spent, effort, for little reward is not worth it.
    hell, even chest rewards are sometimes bugged or <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. nothign good to buy with seals, etc.

    The question here is, How is it that u are amazed people want to skip?

    I am not amazed people want to skip. I am amazed that the same people who were enraged with the AH cheats are themselves using cheats in dungeons.. " NOT NATURAL SHORTCUTS! ACTUAL CHEATS! LOL" a cheat is a cheat is a cheat...
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    falson1 wrote: »
    I did not say cheating was avoiding any pulls LOL now you are just making stuff up. I Am talking about cheats like the teleport one using the stuck command.. reading comprehension epic fail lol.

    Then stop pugging? Why come here on the forums to ***** about it? I have seen so many of these posts over the past couple of days. Just leave the group.. the people in that group intend on doing these "cheats" with or without you. Save them the time and just leave, report to PW, and be on your merry way. Stop coming to the forums and causing this BS of a post that someone already posted like 6 hours ago. Really, I'm just sick of it.
  • sweatapodimassweatapodimas Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    falson1 wrote: »
    I did not say cheating was avoiding any pulls LOL now you are just making stuff up. I Am talking about cheats like the teleport one using the stuck command.. reading comprehension epic fail lol.

    You should just stop, digging hole after hole. Fallacious logic there Einstein, also this hypocrisy of accusing others of reading comprehension difficulties is biting as the wind that must blow cold between your ears. ;)
    "Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" - Frank Zappa
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    etherealj wrote: »
    Not my fault if a map designer puts a couple giants too far against the wall.

    And not my fault they made the maps so when someone does /stuck it teleports people across the map... right?
  • devilschariotdevilschariot Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well, We all can enjoy these shortcuts for now. I've actually PM'd a CM about this issue and they plan on fixing this. So better start getting use to the fact of doing the whole dungeon soon enough.

    to the OP, record these shortcuts to youtube and private link them to a CM like I've been doing.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Then stop pugging? Why come here on the forums to ***** about it? I have seen so many of these posts over the past couple of days. Just leave the group.. the people in that group intend on doing these "cheats" with or without you. Save them the time and just leave, report to PW, and be on your merry way. Stop coming to the forums and causing this BS of a post that someone already posted like 6 hours ago. Really, I'm just sick of it.

    I have actually. My TR has pretty much the best gear the game has to offer all without cheating, I just found like minded people to group with. I send reports as well. I have seen no post about this. either way, PW needs to fix these bugs and that's why the post.
  • jacksoonjacksoon Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I do my run whit guild and i am proud of my 11k GS legit. They wont to use shortcut or bug or glitch? let them do it, they will pay 1 day and they will cry " why they bann me Q.Q, i am an honest player Q.Q give me back my account or i tell to all my friend to stopplay neverwinter Q.Q" -.-
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    allaerra wrote: »
    Wow, the cheaters get really defensive:rolleyes:.

    I like to run a dungeon and get the chests and Easter Eggs. I also find some of the mini bosses drop good loot. Sometimes even the better loot.

    People talk about boring this, and rushing that, just for loot. So is the whole game one big loot fest for you? Why bother playing if it all bores you? I like exploring the Dungeon, I am guessing that is why they made them so long, put several mini bosses in and several hidden areas, chests, and skill nodes. Because D&D is about exploring.

    You are welcome to do all that, but you should understand not everyone wants to get into a dungeon and stare at the walls for 3 hours. Some want to actually get it done, and do another because they are trying to get gear... no notice some random chest with 2 greens, 5c, and a healing potion.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Well, We all can enjoy these shortcuts for now. I've actually PM'd a CM about this issue and they plan on fixing this. So better start getting use to the fact of doing the whole dungeon soon enough.

    to the OP, record these shortcuts to youtube and private link them to a CM like I've been doing.

    I had not heard that, but that's good news indeed.
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    jacksoon wrote: »
    I do my run whit guild and i am proud of my 11k GS legit. They wont to use shortcut or bug or glitch? let them do it, they will pay 1 day and they will cry " why they bann me Q.Q, i am an honest player Q.Q give me back my account or i tell to all my friend to stopplay neverwinter Q.Q" -.-

    LOL, best lie never told.
  • sweatapodimassweatapodimas Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Skipping trash is skipping trash. No matter how you manage to do it. How is hugging the wall not cheating, please explain... PW intended you to beat the trash.. right? .. but you happen to find an error in the map design that allows you to skip it (Sounds F'ing familiar does it not?)

    Just think about that, and tell me how you can justify skipping a mob due to bad map placement is any different then skipping a mob due to lack of proper map design.

    Can't help it. Where in DnD have we EVER heard of "sneaking by the enemy" hmmmmmm? Of course this is and action RPG and thus has a range of aggression around every enemy that is pretty well defined. If what you say is true, then the devs should just cause smaller groups of enemies to attack en masse when the party enter the general area.
    "Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" - Frank Zappa
  • etherealjetherealj Member Posts: 1,091 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    And not my fault they made the maps so when someone does /stuck it teleports people across the map... right?

    No it's not, but the onus is on the developer to fix that in a timely fashion. They filled in the pit and walled off the last fight but they can't patch a tiny gap in a wall? Come on :D
    Use the <removed exploit lead-in> to interact with the auction vendor.
  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    where does it say in the d&d manual that i have to kill everything i can see?
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    LOL, best lie never told.

    I have a 12k GS and I assure you I have never cheated. Ancient dagger set, full swash armor all ancient jewelry etc.. I am very proud of my TR.
  • jacksoonjacksoon Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    LOL, best lie never told.

    you can trust me or not, i don't care.
  • mageor0lmageor0l Member Posts: 51
    edited June 2013
    Skipping trash is skipping trash. No matter how you manage to do it. How is hugging the wall not cheating, please explain... PW intended you to beat the trash.. right? .. but you happen to find an error in the map design that allows you to skip it (Sounds F'ing familiar does it not?)

    Just think about that, and tell me how you can justify skipping a mob due to bad map placement is any different then skipping a mob due to lack of proper map design.

    All discussion aside, but comparing "staying outside of the aggrorange of a group of trashmobs" to "teleport through 90% of the dungeon by falling through a missing texture" is a little bit far-fetched.
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    falson1 wrote: »
    I have actually. My TR has pretty much the best gear the game has to offer all without cheating, I just found like minded people to group with. I send reports as well. I have seen no post about this. either way, PW needs to fix these bugs and that's why the post.

    Thats fine, but until they get off their butts and fix it.. everyone is going to treat it as free game. If PW does not take the servers down right away, and fix a known "cheat" that has been up since... well since the game was released. So until its fix, please, stop being that little whining ***** that everyone hates being in groups with.
  • sweatapodimassweatapodimas Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    melodywhr wrote: »
    where does it say in the d&d manual that i have to kill everything i can see?

    ding ding +1

    I smell reiteration.
    "Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" - Frank Zappa
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    mageor0l wrote: »
    All discussion aside, but comparing "staying outside of the aggrorange of a group of trashmobs" to "teleport through 90% of the dungeon by falling through a missing texture" is a little bit far-fetched.

    A skipped mob is a skipped mob.
  • falson1falson1 Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 135 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    ding ding +1

    I smell reiteration.

    LOL!!! where in the D&D manual allows you to run into a wall and fall forever using the stuck command to teleport and skip content? Sneaking by is one thing, Outright cheating is another. I understand why you cheat based on the posts you make, you are just not smart enough to play the game without cheating. I get it.
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    falson1 wrote: »
    I have a 12k GS and I assure you I have never cheated. Ancient dagger set, full swash armor all ancient jewelry etc.. I am very proud of my TR.

    You are the only one proud of it, because I am sure no one else gives a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> about your character.
  • jacksoonjacksoon Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    And for let you know, i reported all the people was using shortcut when i was in party whit them, even if i risk my main account to get banned because i use the glitch whit them. you have to thx people that report things and not simply cry all the time because someone use bug/shortcut. Do you realy things all the peopla have seen a glitch or bug have reported it ? Is realy nice, 2 nigth ago i was in a Cn party that skipped 4 boss end goes directly to the final boss in 20 min. I reported it whit the account, i hope that whole guild wil get banned for that, full of Ancient wepon
  • sweatapodimassweatapodimas Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    falson1 wrote: »
    I read it again and you still sound like a idiot child. I am not talking about natural shortcuts, and nowhere in your post I replied on even has the word natural in it. I am talking about actual CHEATS. Like the teleport one described above. Now go read your own post idiot...

    "Shortcuts (speaking of natural shortcuts, not glitching) in dungeons seem to be there by design, if not, then why ban someone for using the terrain to their advantage?

    Same goes for using pillars, etc. for spreading out the party versus bosses and sniping. I call it good ****ing tactics, so stop whining about it! When has an army general ever said, "Well troops we're not gonna position snipers and artillary above on the enemy's flank, out of their range, because it's JUST NOT ****ING FAIR!" LOL

    Maybe cheats should be better defined by the devs, dunno."
    - My original post that you trolled, you moron.

    just saying that you need to...........reeeeeeeead. ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ can form what we call "words", which together form a logical thought (something you failed to master).

    *drops the mike*

    cya later folks! :)
    "Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" - Frank Zappa
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