I do not need to explain to anyone the amount of exploits that have occured, the delayed response to specific events, and the lack of CS in this game.
I am posting this because the game has potential, but is failing.
After the Dungeon Delves today (May 30th at 5AM EST), our group was disbanded by a character named <None of our business>. We were in Spellplague and this caused the entire group, except themselves, to not be able to loot the chest. Also, I am a Guardian Fighter and I lost yet ANOTHER chance to loot my Timeless hero helmet. I attempted to submit a ticket, but the system is STILL NOT WORKING properly. I have tickets that well over 14days old that have yet to receive responses. These tickets go in line with not being able to loot the chest at the end.
This is utter <Clean>!!!!!!!
Maybe someone important will see this and realize they are failing.
the name to not group with, ignore, and I EXPECT (as a customer that has paid money into the game) to receive my Timeless hero helm..... You have logs, check them!!!!!
Yes I am raging at the moment, but I have every right to since the company running this show cannot even get a simple ticket query done right. My friends and I have our toes on the final line of leaving this game and I am sure we are not the only ones.
I truly hope my Bold and colorful print gets the point across!!
EASY FIX...... IMPLEMENT VOTE KICK!!!!!! NOT THAT HARD!!!!!
A game is no longer in any sort of beta when money is received from a player with no intention of a reimbursement.
Many people say this but I can find no definition nor law which states it is true. If the game is telling you it's a beta, then you either accept it as incomplete and with bugs, or don't pay any money. If you do, you took the risks with eyes wide open.
Many people say this but I can find no definition nor law which states it is true. If the game is telling you it's a beta, then you either accept it as incomplete and with bugs, or don't pay any money. If you do, you took the risks with eyes wide open.
"It JUST launched! All MMOs have major bugs at Launch!"
"It's only been live for 6 Months! WoW had far more bugs than this 6 months after launch!"
"It's only been a year! Many MMOs still have bugs after a year!"
"Oh Yeah?!? Find me an MMO Without bugs!"
We've all done this dance. Let go of the "But it's Beta!" <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. The game is available to the public without wipes. The Public is treating it as a full game launch. You could call the game Phase 1 Alpha for all you want, people will judge the product AS IS - not as it might be at some undetermined point in the future.
"It JUST launched! All MMOs have major bugs at Launch!"
"It's only been live for 6 Months! WoW had far more bugs than this 6 months after launch!"
"It's only been a year! Many MMOs still have bugs after a year!"
"Oh Yeah?!? Find me an MMO Without bugs!"
We've all done this dance. Let go of the "But it's Beta!" <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. The game is available to the public without wipes. The Public is treating it as a full game launch. You could call the game Phase 1 Alpha for all you want, people will judge the product AS IS - not as it might be at some undetermined point in the future.
That is all well and good but as far as the staff is concerned, they are getting ready for live launch.
I did the black dragon skirmish yesterday, and the chest at the end didn't open. It wasn't a dungeon delve, so I was pretty confused. Also a little upset because that dragon was way harder than a "skirmish" boss should be. 15 minutes my butt!
If you had a higher-level player in with you, that's why.
"hese changes go live at 7 a.m. PDT on Thursday, May 30.
Combat
Great Weapon Fighters can no longer become invulnerable due to cancelling specific powers.
UI
A Double Gems event has been added to the calendar, starting June 14 and ending June 16.
A Double Astral Diamonds event has been added to the calendar, starting July 3 and ending July 7.
Stability
The game client will no longer get stuck at the loading screen for some users."
Path notes. Have you noticed that still do not actually fix critical stuff in the game with a very very few exceptions. The only patch-fix things. This game should stay in beta another two years at this rate of fixes.
So a repeatable bug that allows a class to become invulnerable isn't critical?
Ive also looked at the list mentioned in the link. I'll give em some credit, but [insert hidden/unmentioned fixes] that list looks about as long as a weekly tweak list for some of the other titles out there. Don't get scared by that, it can mean many things.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Still trying to find a reference to AD in my AD&D Manuals.
I do not need to explain to anyone the amount of exploits that have occured, the delayed response to specific events, and the lack of CS in this game.
I am posting this because the game has potential, but is failing.
After the Dungeon Delves today (May 30th at 5AM EST), our group was disbanded by a character named <None of our business>. We were in Spellplague and this caused the entire group, except themselves, to not be able to loot the chest. Also, I am a Guardian Fighter and I lost yet ANOTHER chance to loot my Timeless hero helmet. I attempted to submit a ticket, but the system is STILL NOT WORKING properly. I have tickets that well over 14days old that have yet to receive responses. These tickets go in line with not being able to loot the chest at the end.
This is utter <Clean>!!!!!!!
Maybe someone important will see this and realize they are failing.
the name to not group with, ignore, and I EXPECT (as a customer that has paid money into the game) to receive my Timeless hero helm..... You have logs, check them!!!!!
Yes I am raging at the moment, but I have every right to since the company running this show cannot even get a simple ticket query done right. My friends and I have our toes on the final line of leaving this game and I am sure we are not the only ones.
I truly hope my Bold and colorful print gets the point across!!
EASY FIX...... IMPLEMENT VOTE KICK!!!!!! NOT THAT HARD!!!!!
This was a big issue when Tera launched. For a couple months you would read in chat and on the forums about people booting someone at the end of the last boss so they couldn't loot. Or they would switch it to FFA loot right after the boss dropped gear and tried picking up everything before anyone was wise to it. After a few months, Bluehole/Enmasse finally implemented a vote kick like you are asking. It resolved a lot of these issues. I really hope they do plan on fixing this. At least before it "launches".
I dont think the game failed yet. I still have hope for it. They got to correct alot of stuff. Well a huge amount of stuff. After everything gets fixed it would be a great game. Right now no its not.
This was a big issue when Tera launched. For a couple months you would read in chat and on the forums about people booting someone at the end of the last boss so they couldn't loot. Or they would switch it to FFA loot right after the boss dropped gear and tried picking up everything before anyone was wise to it. After a few months, Bluehole/Enmasse finally implemented a vote kick like you are asking. It resolved a lot of these issues. I really hope they do plan on fixing this. At least before it "launches".
Yes but error in your logic what if 3 or 4 people are in together as a smaller team in the group of 5 they all vote off the 1 or 2 people that arnt in thier little group. Then you got a problem all over again
Yes but error in your logic what if 3 or 4 people are in together as a smaller team in the group of 5 they all vote off the 1 or 2 people that arnt in thier little group. Then you got a problem all over again
I didn't say it would fix all issues. Just the issue the OP was speaking of. That was also an issue in Tera. I do recall they fixed it. I just can't recall how. As I haven't played Tera for about 4 months.
Man I was pretty hyped about DP too. Then I got into beta and had to uninstall it after maybe 30 minutes. It's basically Tera, but 10 times worse.
LOL I agree I played it too one day NW was down for mait. played 3 of the 4 classes in the training area and went "What is this?" uninstalled and waited for NW come up there are still a couple more games I am waiting for to test to see if I prefer them better then NW but for now NW is my game
jihancritiasMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
The need/greed/pass should still pop up after being kicked. They should make this happen AFTER they put a timer on leaving a dungeon. The dungeon timer should be longer than the loot timer, by a good bit, and allow leaving when you want. So, if some a**hat decides to disband the group, they won't be able to solo loot, because everyone will get to loot anyway.
The votekick wouldn't work because groups with the same guild members would just vote to kick the odd man out, and loot.
I think there should also be a forum to call these players out. It should be moderated, and only allowed with screenshots and conclusive proof. Heavily moderated.
People failed. Cryptic did not fail, the person that kicked you from the group did. It is not cryptic that kicked you, but some random idiot that has no concept of being a decent person. It is sad that mechanics should have to be implemented to combat rude people... Oh, wait they already are, it is called join a guild.
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jihancritiasMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
People failed. Cryptic did not fail, the person that kicked you from the group did. It is not cryptic that kicked you, but some random idiot that has no concept of being a decent person. It is sad that mechanics should have to be implemented to combat rude people... Oh, wait they already are, it is called join a guild.
Saying this is the player's fault for not joining a guild is the worst answer available. This game isn't based around joining a guild to have fun. A guild is secondary. If you can play solo, which I believe they said you could for the most part, then joining a guild isn't the answer. It would work, but it shouldn't be required to have fun. Proper looting should have been implemented during alpha and closed beta. You could argue that it's the players fault, that beta tested the game. I didn't, and don't know how far people got in the game. But, this should have been reported back then. If it was, and Cryptic did nothing, then it's their fault.
In no way is it your average gamers fault, because he didn't join a guild.
TL : DR? Then don't waste my time responding.
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maggotholeMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
A vote kick system needs to be in like tomorrow. Also the party loot system needs to fine tuned so people that can't use the item can't need on it.
No, it is not the average gamers fault. A single player kicking the group is not the average player, nor is it the average experience. It is also not the fault of the game; it still falls on the player who committed the act. Moreover, dungeons and skirmishes are not a solo experience, they are a group experience. For the best grouping experience a player should always run with players they are familiar with. That simple fact is known to anyone that has ever played a MMO.
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try this game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXUKIk_gsBA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Many people say this but I can find no definition nor law which states it is true. If the game is telling you it's a beta, then you either accept it as incomplete and with bugs, or don't pay any money. If you do, you took the risks with eyes wide open.
I would say you are WRONG since they aren't resetting it, what happens now is a has a permanent outcome!
"It JUST launched! All MMOs have major bugs at Launch!"
"It's only been live for 6 Months! WoW had far more bugs than this 6 months after launch!"
"It's only been a year! Many MMOs still have bugs after a year!"
"Oh Yeah?!? Find me an MMO Without bugs!"
We've all done this dance. Let go of the "But it's Beta!" <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. The game is available to the public without wipes. The Public is treating it as a full game launch. You could call the game Phase 1 Alpha for all you want, people will judge the product AS IS - not as it might be at some undetermined point in the future.
That is all well and good but as far as the staff is concerned, they are getting ready for live launch.
If you had a higher-level player in with you, that's why.
So a repeatable bug that allows a class to become invulnerable isn't critical?
No, it isn't helpful at all, nice try though.
Man I was pretty hyped about DP too. Then I got into beta and had to uninstall it after maybe 30 minutes. It's basically Tera, but 10 times worse.
Then the 12 of you and the mods can enjoy the forums to yourselves. Sounds steamy.
This was a big issue when Tera launched. For a couple months you would read in chat and on the forums about people booting someone at the end of the last boss so they couldn't loot. Or they would switch it to FFA loot right after the boss dropped gear and tried picking up everything before anyone was wise to it. After a few months, Bluehole/Enmasse finally implemented a vote kick like you are asking. It resolved a lot of these issues. I really hope they do plan on fixing this. At least before it "launches".
Yes but error in your logic what if 3 or 4 people are in together as a smaller team in the group of 5 they all vote off the 1 or 2 people that arnt in thier little group. Then you got a problem all over again
I didn't say it would fix all issues. Just the issue the OP was speaking of. That was also an issue in Tera. I do recall they fixed it. I just can't recall how. As I haven't played Tera for about 4 months.
LOL I agree I played it too one day NW was down for mait. played 3 of the 4 classes in the training area and went "What is this?" uninstalled and waited for NW come up there are still a couple more games I am waiting for to test to see if I prefer them better then NW but for now NW is my game
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OMG I wish it were that easy haha.
The votekick wouldn't work because groups with the same guild members would just vote to kick the odd man out, and loot.
I think there should also be a forum to call these players out. It should be moderated, and only allowed with screenshots and conclusive proof. Heavily moderated.
Saying this is the player's fault for not joining a guild is the worst answer available. This game isn't based around joining a guild to have fun. A guild is secondary. If you can play solo, which I believe they said you could for the most part, then joining a guild isn't the answer. It would work, but it shouldn't be required to have fun. Proper looting should have been implemented during alpha and closed beta. You could argue that it's the players fault, that beta tested the game. I didn't, and don't know how far people got in the game. But, this should have been reported back then. If it was, and Cryptic did nothing, then it's their fault.
In no way is it your average gamers fault, because he didn't join a guild.