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nymesis92
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Am I really seeing people cry about not being able to knock mobs off certain ledges now??
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I understand why it has to be fixed, but at the same time i really enjoy it and wish it would stay this way.
Seriously though, if it trivialises content it's probably not healthy for the game.
booting them off the cliff makes it fun.
otherwise the dungeon runs are just plain annoying and long.
I kind of wish they would, i've been playing like i expect them to, after i first discovered you can do it to them. I look at a mob and realize they can knock back, so i be sure to make sure i have something at my back. It hasn't happened to me yet, but i keep expecting it. If i remember right, there was a boss in DDO that unaware people would get kicked back so hard and fall off of the platform the battle was on, that they would be out of the raid for the fight. it was awesome. I also "never" put grease near the area you shouldn't stand on, so people who went there couldn't get out. Never.
I'd prefer an Onyxia style dungeon. Little trash, one boss requiring some sort of tactics
Uhm they do?
Do the pirate king instance and if you stand on those little pathways in the air and the bigass guy slams the ground you'll see players flying off the ledge to their deaths.
So honestly if they did make it that mobs cant be pushed off anymore, they better make it that players cant be pushed off also!!
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni - Go watch it alone
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
This is really ironic as one of the primary tactics in that fight revolved around managing the add trash. Not so different from what's in this game :P
But here's the worst part. I wouldn't be complaining right now if these CW were also topping the damage meters! By the time we reached the last boss, I was at 1million total damage dealth and both these CW were under 600k! I did over 400k Damage during the whole run with my DPS build! Yes it's true, thanks to them, we saved time and reached the last boss faster, but at a loss of XP, gold and loot!!!!
But it doesn't end there! We wiped 2 times on the last boss of the dungeon, mainly because these 2 CW were useless! Their pathetic "Knock back spec" was pulling such terrible damage that they were slowing us down and making the last fight so difficult!
By the 3rd attempt, all I was doing was killing adds because the 2 other CW were just too slow and their knock backs didn't do jack! Once the last boss was dead, I was at 1.7 million damage and where didn't even break 1 million!!!!!!!!!!!! I did 700k damage for 3 last boss wipes, they only did around 200k~300k total damage!
Pathetic! They saved us a bit of time on trash, but completely made all that saved time useless because killing the last boss took forever!
NERF KNOCK BACK COMBAT WIZARD SPECS!!!!!!!!!!!! They suck at damage, they make killing the last boss longer and more annoying for nothing, while levelling I don't gain XP because of them, and I get less gold and loot!
Do not assume the two you encountered are the same as all of them. "knock back spec" doesn't even exist - all it takes is having shield pulse as one of your encounter abilities to be able to knock back. Unless you're a moron using Ice Storm (instead of singularity to pulse). You can do both tons of damage and control and still knock things off ledges all in one spec actually :P
As far as xp, loot and gold - this is pretty irrelevant at endgame as the loot is all greens nobody even bothers to waste ID scrolls on and the cash drops are trivial - and of course xp is pointless.
*eyeroll*
so you want them to nerf a build because it
already does less damage,
already takes to long to kill a boss,
already gain less XP,
already get less gold and loot!
..... I don't think you know what nerfing something means.
Nerf these forums ;P
snicker
Probably purple too
Kids.... they tend to use bombastic terms, just to make them look adult or knowledgeable.
Nah Green. But hell it's a loot and it's mine...
I think nice those "action game like" moviments on NW.
Also GF/GWF might have a role in this dungeon now since they can be used in the new tactics to do these bosses without push/exploit (yeah i call it an exploit, because it makes a run/bossfight shorter then originaly intented)
On the other hand i could imagine some bosses having a "second platform" where u could push the mobs to, so they could run back up and join the fight again(this would more ore less give u a strategical time that kicks u in the *** later), also this would allow a tank/gwf to ocupie the road going to the boss platform again
sure there needs to be balance that you can't just push all enemies to instadeath but then again it is fun so there should be such places once a while.
I hope they at least put some rocks/safety fence to place instead invisible wall?
when it's a dozen to 1, the dozen should have a way to be dealt with....
@the Devs: want players to stop finding ways to deal with adds easily? THEN STOP ADDING THE ADDS!!!!, make the boss tougher by what the BOSS itself can do. the adds are annoying and players will always try to find ways to avoid messing with them.
Where are you seeing this?
But I will like to have certain stats increase defense against knockback if this is implemented.