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What happend to the time before Queue system spoilt us?

cwair01cwair01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 76
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I see so many complaining over the queue system, that makes me wonder what happend to the time where you actually made friends to bring along to a dungeon or use the chat to look for group.

To me the queue system is a great future but it feels like it downgrades the socialism in this kind of games, i find it very boring to get put into a group where nobody bother to reply to a "hello" and if the group goes to hell they will take the time to write rude remarks.

I'm just trying to make a point that it's perfectly possible to play the game without relying on the queue! :)

Let's face it, and excuse me pwe employee's but it has to be said, the current queue system is comparable to the time it takes to get a reply on a ticket, TO DARN LONG.
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  • billybobjones7billybobjones7 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    That's cuz most people in the gaming community are jags and don't have friends. Miss the old days.
  • narathkornarathkor Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Uhhh socialize and make friends = better groups that win more...
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  • billybobjones7billybobjones7 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Also, make a GF and the queue are instant.
  • lltsnwnlltsnwn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 787 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    cwair01 wrote: »
    I see so many complaining over the queue system, that makes me wonder what happend to the time where you actually made friends to bring along to a dungeon or use the chat to look for group.

    To me the queue system is a great future but it feels like it downgrades the socialism in this kind of games, i find it very boring to get put into a group where nobody bother to reply to a "hello" and if the group goes to hell they will take the time to write rude remarks.

    I'm just trying to make a point that it's perfectly possible to play the game without relying on the queue! :)

    Let's face it, and excuse me pwe employee's but it has to be said, the current queue system is comparable to the time it takes to get a reply on a ticket, TO DARN LONG.

    The automatic queue system for PvE requires a balanced group which ideally includes one of each class tank, healer, dps, dps and dps. However there are far more dps than tanks and healers even with the ratio being 3:2. The simplest solution for you would be to create a cleric healer and get instant queued for dungeons...
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  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ....Somewhere outside Karnors Castle in the dreadlands....

    40 wizard lfg
    40 wizard lfg
    ......2 hours later.....
    40 wizard lfg
    40 wizard lfg
    ......2 hours later.....
    gnite folks, had a great time tonight :D see you tomorrow.
  • cwair01cwair01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 76
    edited May 2013
    lltsnwn wrote: »
    The automatic queue system for PvE requires a balanced group which ideally includes one of each class tank, healer, dps, dps and dps. However there are far more dps than tanks and healers even with the ratio being 3:2. The simplest solution for you would be to create a cleric healer and get instant queued for dungeons...

    I'm a 9,9K GS Cleric
    I'm always friendly and will be happy any of your inquires via pm!
    However i'm not a part of PWE and can't handle any questions regarding your personal details or account.
    Please respect the forum ToS and keep a nice manner towards your fellow adventurers!

    | Half Elf - Cleric | Good reading for Clerics |
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    What happend to the time before Queue system spoilt us?

    People spent 1+ hours spamming the chat channels looking for groups, and sometimes even getting one for their entire evening of play. (Yes, this is from experience. Vanilla WoW was like that. As were other games.)
  • shad99shad99 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    cwair01 wrote: »
    I see so many complaining over the queue system, that makes me wonder what happend to the time where you actually made friends to bring along to a dungeon or use the chat to look for group.

    To me the queue system is a great future but it feels like it downgrades the socialism in this kind of games, i find it very boring to get put into a group where nobody bother to reply to a "hello" and if the group goes to hell they will take the time to write rude remarks.

    I'm just trying to make a point that it's perfectly possible to play the game without relying on the queue! :)

    Let's face it, and excuse me pwe employee's but it has to be said, the current queue system is comparable to the time it takes to get a reply on a ticket, TO DARN LONG.

    Make friends? Pfft... No. You spammed chat channels. In our day we were lucky if we had 3 different ones: Global, zone, local, and trade... And players could not use global... People would get tired of waiting after an hour or so and would soon spam every channel they had access to... It was supremely rare to find other players who were friendly and I can recall many a flame war started on chat which caused the hand of the game moderators to swat people on chat...

    I don't really miss the crudely drawn ascii phallus 'chat' though... Then again the first thing I did in NWO was turn off zone... Maybe they still do happen?

    Anyways... Next came the 'lfg' flags, you could set yourself as looking for group and players could scan through everyone so listed. That lead to tons of tells to find out people were not generally looking for groups or not your group or not for that quest/challenge... Barely helped at all...

    Then came queuing... And people were still not happy because these random groups often sucked... So... yeah...
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  • neyph69neyph69 Banned Users Posts: 150 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    skalt112 wrote: »
    ....Somewhere outside Karnors Castle in the dreadlands....

    40 wizard lfg
    40 wizard lfg
    ......2 hours later.....
    40 wizard lfg
    40 wizard lfg
    ......2 hours later.....
    gnite folks, had a great time tonight :D see you tomorrow.

    Lol, Anyone remember vanilla EQ1 waiting to get into a treant group in South Karana?? I remember killing centaurs for 6 hours one day waiting to get into one.
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  • lltsnwnlltsnwn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 787 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    Two words;

    CAMP CHECK!

    I think I remember way back when you would have to ask if anyone was camping a NPC that dropped an item that people wanted and you would have to get into a party queue... Man that's going WAY back ;)
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  • neyph69neyph69 Banned Users Posts: 150 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    Yeah it's EQ1, you would go into a zone with rarespawns like So Ro, Lower Guk, Najena, So Karana, etc, and shout, "CAMP CHECK" to see what was or wasn't open. If it was being camped you could go into the camp group and wait your turn in a queue. It was amazing how well behaved and self-policing that community was, because some people would be waiting DAYS just for their turn to be up. God forbid if someone ninja looted Jboots...they would be the pariah of the server. In this day and age, such a system would be impossible, sadly.

    This is so true. If only the MMO community was still like EQ1 days. They were by far my favorite MMO days of all time. I would give anything to be able to play in that community again. BTW, i played on Tallon Zek since day one heh.

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  • neyph69neyph69 Banned Users Posts: 150 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    Seventh Hammer and Zebuxoruk, hehe.

    I was part of the only guild to ever kill The Sleeper, name it!

    Wasnt that Fires of Heaven or whatever? i was in the only Dark only guild left on Tallon just before X'teaming was rampant. We were also the only single faction guild to ever drop post buff Innoruuk and Cazic Thule, Exordium.
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  • neyph69neyph69 Banned Users Posts: 150 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    ahhh thats beat. I have heard of Blood of the Spider though. They were a top notch guild, def up there with Pandemonium and FoH. I still check EQEmu out like once a month to see if theres any new pvp progression servers up yet lol.
  • kalizaarkalizaar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yeah it used to be you'd log in, spam chat looking for people around your level that were camping certain areas full of mobs. You'd then spend the next couple hours with that same group of people having epic battles and getting to know each other as you spent 10 minutes waiting for the casters to finish meditating to get back mana.

    Now? Assuming you waited 45 minutes to get in a dungeon or skirmish queue, you kill a bunch of stuff silently. Once it's over everyone immediately leaves the group without a word to enter another 45 minute queue.

    Instant adventure has its perks, but it really has gotten rid of the need to socialize and maybe make friends. The best thing to do if you want to avoid queues and silent strangers is to join an active, friendly guild.

    I do miss the old days of camping Blackburrow, Guk, or the Estate of Unrest. CHOOO CHOOOO TRAAAAAAAAAAAAIIINNNNNNN!!!
  • teepussiteepussi Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    billybobjones7 wrote: »
    That's cuz most people in the gaming community are jags and don't have friends. Miss the old days.

    Average gamer age has grown a lot, when played first multiplayer games i was at school and playing games was natural past time. But after you grow older people change and not many of those same people still play games, not to mention MMO's that are time sinks. I think its logical step for companys to cater to adult players that cant dedicate so much time or lack of (friends). Also this game is a bit in weird spot atm as biggest content is 5 player, while theres guilds. I always associate guilds to a bit bigger communitys and if this game has actual raiding, i would gladly look for guild.
  • kejser91kejser91 Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2013
    because sometimes its hard to find a group over chat, then its easier to click 1 buttom- I do use the chat and the queue system
  • ebonogiebonogi Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I miss the camp check calls, the luck trains, heck even blackburrow trains. Or having to type to get a quest after reading a paragraph. Good old days.
  • nerdbanenerdbane Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Because people just loves to complain. I'm 120% sure even if the game has the perfect system, forums would be filled with "omg queue system in day 1, social aspect died instantly QQ"

    If you are too lazy to /zone Hey guys wanna form a group? , then you deserve to wait 45 mins i'm sorry.
  • lltsnwnlltsnwn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 787 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Unfortunately I don't have the free time like I used to back in the old days...
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  • calaminthacalamintha Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    teepussi wrote: »
    Average gamer age has grown a lot, when played first multiplayer games i was at school and playing games was natural past time. But after you grow older people change and not many of those same people still play games, not to mention MMO's that are time sinks. I think its logical step for companys to cater to adult players that cant dedicate so much time or lack of (friends).

    Like Bungie says: 'We make games we want to play'
  • senseijohnsenseijohn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 90
    edited May 2013
    Having played multiple MMO's over the years LONG before a queue system, I can tell you exact what used to happen:

    You joined a guild. A good guild would run guild groups often and you'd hop in with voice chat and shoot the bull while killing bad guys.

    Sure, you advertise for PuGs, but generally if you really wanted a PuG, you needed to put it together yourself and often times you'd meet good players that you would group with regularly. But the big thing is, you'd know what dungeon you were going into and could organize the group appropriately.

    With the queue system, it's hit or miss. I can't tell you how many chests I've missed out on because we sat in the dungeon, waiting for a healer with the leader just dropping people without a word to make room. And how many times I've been dropped without fan fare.

    The queue system is evil. Let's kill it! What does Sgt Knox say?
  • suroh66suroh66 Member Posts: 123 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    hahahaha socialism that's funny, and it's the wrong term but thanks for describing America for me :) You're right the in what you're saying, And to the people that complain about the queue system this is Dnd not wow any instances can be done with out a tank or a healer it just takes more time and skill lol some thing the majority of people do not have
  • labbblabbb Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I miss the shuttle waits in SWG .
  • uvirith1uvirith1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 124
    edited May 2013
    cwair01 wrote: »
    I see so many complaining over the queue system, that makes me wonder what happend to the time where you actually made friends to bring along to a dungeon or use the chat to look for group.
    The pink sunglasses of looking into the past clouds our judgement. Before Queue it was an endless standing in the capitals and shouting for group, only to find no one to group with, effectively wasting hours idleing around jumping on the spot.
    Oh, and god beware you werent the right class, then youre effectively screwed for good.
    For example, playing a Stealther in Dark Age of Camelot effectively ruled you out for any kind of PvE.

    No no, queues are actually a vast improvement to the old times. And thats coming form soneone with a 15 year history in onlinegaming.
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