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quseioquseio Member Posts: 43
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Id like to know when we might see new classes? and what? i know probably ranger first, but me personally i want dragon disciple!, berserker,summoner, some sort of were form druid
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  • riotwarriorriotwarrior Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Drow is going to be the new race, and hopefully the class in a ranger/archer, with more range than a CW :D that would be pretty nice
  • scorpion2112scorpion2112 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 34
    edited May 2013
    Just look at the skills that open boxes that are available, and that will tell you what is likely to be next. Theivery, Arcane, Dungeoneering, Religion, and Nature. With skill kits you can open the nature boxes, but no class can do it without a kit. Therefore, I would think either a ranger, or something else that might open a nature box.
  • drusillusdrusillus Member Posts: 119 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Just look at the skills that open boxes that are available, and that will tell you what is likely to be next. Theivery, Arcane, Dungeoneering, Religion, and Nature. With skill kits you can open the nature boxes, but no class can do it without a kit. Therefore, I would think either a ranger, or something else that might open a nature box.

    good thinking. Druid?
  • stealthymcthiefstealthymcthief Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd like vampire the class and the race. It's rules as written, look it up.
  • drusillusdrusillus Member Posts: 119 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I'd like vampire the class and the race. It's rules as written, look it up.
    As long as it doesnt freaking sparkle.
  • kirbz1kirbz1 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just look at the skills that open boxes that are available, and that will tell you what is likely to be next. Theivery, Arcane, Dungeoneering, Religion, and Nature. With skill kits you can open the nature boxes, but no class can do it without a kit. Therefore, I would think either a ranger, or something else that might open a nature box.

    I was thinking the same but one thing to mention though, Dungeoneering can be opened by 2 classes GF and GWF. Also, Arcane for CW and I think something like a warlock. Ranger can be thievery or nature, this might mean every kit has 2 classes that can open them.
  • azithothazithoth Member Posts: 77
    edited May 2013
    i thought i read somewhere ranger was next class...
  • quseioquseio Member Posts: 43
    edited May 2013
    drusillus wrote: »
    As long as it doesnt freaking sparkle.
    Unless its on fire then its ok if it sparkles
  • sigmundjusticesigmundjustice Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Druid, ranger?
  • jadedjackalopejadedjackalope Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I've heard multiple people saying that the next two classes will be a dual-wield ranger and scourge warlock, but I haven't seen anything official from PW.
  • quseioquseio Member Posts: 43
    edited May 2013
    id love a good were wolf/bear ectera druid different forms for different things werewolf would be fast bear just a brawler
    Perhaps different forms would be collectable or something lizard form would be dot mitigateing

    maybe a small heal and buffs
  • eros1986eros1986 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I want a Dragonborn Sniper with barret cal50, dual wield.

    Or ranger striker, not some animal lover trap thrower controller using poisoned arrow and thing like that. A pure striker like the TR, just ranged.
    Ah and no AOE...don't make it like the CW with less control and more damage.
  • morewardogsmorewardogs Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd like to see paladin so long as it balances well with GF and GWF. as far as what we will see next, ranger.
  • drusillusdrusillus Member Posts: 119 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I'd like to see paladin so long as it balances well with GF and GWF. as far as what we will see next, ranger.

    AN UNDEAD PALADIN!!!! Wait, wrong game.. I've only been asking for that for 7 years
  • brokensaintvxbrokensaintvx Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If they make a Druid class next, I demand it has a Honey Badger form!
  • keylord02keylord02 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The rogue already dual wields. We need a martial ranged character and the ranger's the best choice that I can think of. There's still tons of possibilities that haven't been explored, so a pure damage focused ranged character and a damage-over-time warlock character are great options.

    I may be biased though, since my girlfriend won't play with me unless they add a Ranger.
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  • mistriosumistriosu Member Posts: 279 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    They've said Ranger and Warlock are the next two coming, just haven't given an eta
  • ehraehra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Ranger and Warlock are fine, but after those two I'm really hoping we can get some kind of summoner class. Always been a fan of characters that manage lots of pets but few games ever get it right. Either the AI/pathing is terrible or the pets are weak or boring.
  • zbluggzblugg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd like a monk. Please, a monk. Religion kits would work.

    Did I say monk?

    MONK.
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  • gamerman121gamerman121 Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Warlock. The animations and abilities are already in game on mobs you are fighting.
  • rawrasauruzrawrasauruz Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd really love a druid tbh. After playing WoW and D2 for a number of years I've been game hopping in hopes of finding another class that could shapeshift into another form to make it either a beefy tank or a quick hitting dps.

    Ranger will most likely be the next class to come out though. Surprised it wasn't released along with the game in all honesty, I mean it IS the favored class among many ^^
  • quseioquseio Member Posts: 43
    edited May 2013
    well if they release rangers you know players are gunna demand that they give them giant miniature space hamsters as companions ! SQUEEEEEEEEK SQUEEEEEEEk hands off the hamster gnome aaaaaahh /flashback

    i fully support a monk that would be cool also i wanna see a whtcha call it shadow assasin with the extra dodgeinesss ability

    did they ever do any other dragon disciples in dnd other than red dragon disciples ? if so how where they different?
  • captainmahoneycaptainmahoney Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Paladin please
  • vold316vold316 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    quseio wrote: »
    Id like to know when we might see new classes? and what? i know probably ranger first, but me personally i want dragon disciple!, berserker,summoner, some sort of were form druid

    Red Dragon Disciple will never happen man, sorry. If you wanna know more about the classes that can be added read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_class_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)#4th_edition
    Look for the 4th edition classes.

    According to that what can we expect:

    Player's handbook (PH) classes, then PH2 classes (primal classes added here), then PH3 classes (Psionic classes added here). Maybe then, artificer, assassin, swordmage and vampire (but I doubt it).

    Also, each class has it's own class build options (Trickster Rogue, Devout Cleric, etc), which are how they are adding them to NW. Besides in d&d 4e, each class has a role (Defender, Striker, Leader, Controller), and probably as they add more classes they will add classes of different role as even as possible.

    According to D&D 4e:

    Cleric = Leader ("You lead by shielding allies with your prayers, healing, and using powers that improve your allies’ attacks." - PH D&D4e).

    Fighter = Defender ("You are very tough and have the exceptional ability to contain enemies in melee." - PH D&D4e).

    Rogue = Striker ("You dart in to attack, do massive damage, and then retreat to safety. You do best when teamed with a defender to flank enemies." - PH D&D4e).

    Wizard = Controller ("You exert control through magical effects that cover large areas—sometimes hindering foes, sometimes consuming them with fire." - PH D&D4e).

    According to NW wiki:

    GWF = Damage Dealer (Secondary Striker), Defender (Secondary).
    TR = Striker.
    GF = Defender.
    DC = Leader, Controller (Secondary).
    CW= Controller.

    So we have:

    Leader = 1
    Defender = 1,5.
    Striker = 1,5.
    Controller = 1,5.

    If they add Ranger and Warlock as some people say are the next, we will have 2 additional strikers, maybe 2 Striker 0,5 Controller.

    Leader = 1
    Defender = 1,5.
    Striker = 3,5.
    Controller = 2.

    According to that we will need an additional Leader and Defender (thinking on that they roles will be added evenly).

    So, next classes: Ranger, Warlock; Paladin (Defender), Warlord (Leader) or if they move to PH2, Bard (Leader).
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  • osadamaskosadamask Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So many classes....I want them all. Honestly the more classes in game, the more money I will spend.
  • kalizaarkalizaar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    mistriosu wrote: »
    They've said Ranger and Warlock are the next two coming, just haven't given an eta

    When you say "They" you mean "All the players that have been talking about this for months and speculating based on fabricated dev posts that turned out to be other player posts speculating on other fabricated dev posts that were based on other players finding some game assets that are related to Rangers and Warlocks"? Or do you have a link to an actual dev post stating Ranger and Warlock?

    I've seen all the speculation based on the data mined game assets and that presents a good case, but I haven't seen an actual developer post specifically stating Ranger and Warlock so if there is one I'd love to see it to satisfy my curiosity. :)
  • ganjaman1ganjaman1 Member Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    we need moar strikers clearly lel
  • nornsavantnornsavant Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    As much as I wish we could have a paladin as well, there is some empirical bad news and some speculative good news.

    Empirically the classes have shown a need to be entirely distinct and different from one another. So they won’t be adding new classes that overlap existing classes in form or function. A paladin might look a little too much like a cleric or a guardian without filling either role well. So that’s not going to happen.

    The new upcoming class everyone knows about Ranger/Archer is very different and unlike any of the existing classes. That is more like what you might see added as a class.

    In my opinion a monk could serve as a melee controller and fill a role while being distinct both visually and in function. And would be awesome.

    Speculatively though, consider this. What if the classes that are a bit too close for addition as their own branch were instead available as Paragon paths? So You could trade in your hand mirror for a glowing sword, Paladin! Trade in your Ice for Fire, Battle Mage! Give up daggers for dual swords…Dual wielding fighter.

    That might be a way to get some classes in the game that wouldn’t get in any other way.
  • ausdoerrtausdoerrt Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    drusillus wrote: »
    AN UNDEAD PALADIN!!!! Wait, wrong game.. I've only been asking for that for 7 years

    Look up blackguard :) Not an undead pally per se, but close enough. Doubt we'll see them anytime soon though.
  • peacockbladepeacockblade Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    nornsavant wrote: »
    As much as I wish we could have a paladin as well, there is some empirical bad news and some speculative good news.

    Empirically the classes have shown a need to be entirely distinct and different from one another. So they won’t be adding new classes that overlap existing classes in form or function. A paladin might look a little too much like a cleric or a guardian without filling either role well. So that’s not going to happen.

    The new upcoming class everyone knows about Ranger/Archer is very different and unlike any of the existing classes. That is more like what you might see added as a class.

    In my opinion a monk could serve as a melee controller and fill a role while being distinct both visually and in function. And would be awesome.

    Speculatively though, consider this. What if the classes that are a bit too close for addition as their own branch were instead available as Paragon paths? So You could trade in your hand mirror for a glowing sword, Paladin! Trade in your Ice for Fire, Battle Mage! Give up daggers for dual swords…Dual wielding fighter.

    That might be a way to get some classes in the game that wouldn’t get in any other way.

    I wonder if you've actually played those classes in their 4th edition incarnations?

    Monks are Strikers, like rogues, and rangers. Rangers are also the kings of dual wielding, since it's the primary alternate path from the archer. Fighters can do it, but are still far behind in dealing damage compared to true Strikers. (See the GWF for an example of the problems with hybrids.)

    Paladins are Defenders (tanks, if you prefer), but they also grant healing. Being the only basic class that can wear plate at creation, they're closer to the GF than the DC as implemented. If I were to present them in Neverwinter, I'd give them abilities that grant an AoE heal based on the damage they take/block. This would be close the using your own healing surge to heal others that paladins use.

    Clerics *should* be the best healers out there, since they were that among the Leaders. Warlords are your buffing & debuffing Leaders. Hopefully the 'adjustments' to DCs aren't as dire as they appear now, since adding a Ranger and Warlock would give us 3.5 Strikers, 1.5 Defenders, 1 Leader & 1 Controller out of 7 classes.
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