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morbic
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
Right now in most/all of the Professions currently, you can not upgrade common assets to uncommon assets via the task system. You have to aquire them via the profession bags like those from the zen store that list assets and not resources. If this isn't a bug or oversight and bad implementation, I am creating this thread to see the votes for correcting this feature.
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Asset upgrading poll.
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Asset upgrading poll.
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Foundry Content:Guide - Custom Channels and List (NW-DHBU9OTOS)
Asset upgrading poll.
Foundry Content:Guide - Custom Channels and List (NW-DHBU9OTOS)
Asset upgrading poll.
I wanted to see what is in those bags.
Foundry Content:Guide - Custom Channels and List (NW-DHBU9OTOS)
Asset upgrading poll.
Now of course there's the workers, who only really cost us time, but they could add another step between say Assistant Platesmith and Platesmith to upgrade them and require some rare item or something. Maybe require a hammer of equal rarity, this way it's not so free anymore.
The convenience from getting, say, a green people asset from the bag is that you wouldn't need to hire 64 rank 1s, upgrade them into 16 rank 2s, upgrade them again into 4 rank 3s, then upgrade it again into one rank 4. Save you, uh, 1530 hours of a profession slot you can't use. That's just for one green asset.
I think that's enough of a convenience to make people buy them.
I agree with blightedbishop
I would love to see non zen rare assets available from a crafters perspective. I was a nub when I first started crafting and looked up the list and saw the rare combines to upgrade, and assumed I could upgrade my own in the future. With the greyed out cover it was difficult to notice I couldn't actually upgrade whites to greens etc.
The profession bags are kind of expensive considering you don't get any choice in what you receive. I did decide to support the game and buy some thou, and scooped a couple up off the AH when I could afford. I could actually exchange my AD/zen for them.. Except I haven't been doing alot of the high AD reward dailies due to time and not wanting to out level a friend. This is what I plan to do in the future. So I am kind of torn too.. I would like crafting to be a viable means of making AD.
Crafting has been abit of a money sink so far, Although I am getting towards the higher levels perhaps the profits will become more favourable.. except now I need quality assets to make high yield items.. tier 2 and tier 3 items etc. I am not sure how much luck is involved once you actually have maxed assets is it even possible to have 100% chance on tier 3 item?
So my vote goes to assets being available from in game upgrades, with a qualifier thou.. Keep the speed items store only and let the quality ones be upgradeable from whites. You potentially need 3 anyway.. hammer chisel tongs for mail smith etc. That is alot of upgrades/time
It's not like you can't enjoy crafting as it is anyway even without those items.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
I love crafting in every game and I have to say paying $3 to gamble on getting a good asset isn't exactly something I enjoy. I think the Tier 3 Assets should be able to be upgraded into uncommon. Considering all the time it would take to get four tier 3 common assets I don't see how this would be unfair.
Heck maybe make them require 8 Common Tier 3 to upgrade. It likely would be cheaper, in AD, to purchase an uncommon asset at that point.
The other option would be to maybe add Profession Assets into the Blessed Professions Pack and limit them that way.
Either way I think they should be more common and accessible to every person than a $3 Gamble.
Can you actually get people assets from the 300 Zen packs? I had been under the impression that you can only get people assets from the 1600 Zen packs, so I never tried the 300 ones and instead bought green and blue ones on the AH.
Master Mailsmith, Master Platesmith, Iron Hammer and An Steel Chisel (I think)
But after I spent 15 dollars in Zen (via freebies and Zen Exchanges) I accepted that I was probably better off just buying the uncommon assets from the Auction House for 10-30K AD a pop.
Yes I do actually get to peel myself away from the forums every once in a while.
I don't think they will let this happen (can't blame them) because that's 50% of their income which as i mentioned selling time.The other 50% is selling fancy stuff and items that gives you more comfort (like more space,inventory slot etc.).Again it would be nice, but asking them to abandon 50% of their income well...i don't see it would be happen anytime soon.
Besides i'm grateful for the shop as it is now and this is NOT smoozing (even if it seems).Currently there's nothing it the shop which gives paying players advantage above non paying players (except time),no OP weapons,armor,buffing potions,or any kind of benefit which favors the paying customers.So don't take away their income options otherwise they have to come up a much worse idea to gain some profit.Be gald that they really tried to balance out the differences between paying and non paying customers.
Thx for listening
It may look like it requires a ton of time to rank up a bunch of whites to tier 3, but you're ignoring the ability of people to just create endless numbers of accounts for asset farming.
I have both an uncommon Leadership and Tailor asset, could buy a few more but didn't really need them yet.
I don't think that getting them through normal tasks should be possible. I also don't spend money on the game. Bam.
*eyeroll* the tier 3 crafted items REQUIRE at least a +101% quality bonus from the crafting assets to have a 1% chance to be t3, this would MEAN that you MUST have all blues, or blues/purples while crafting it to even HOPE to craft the t3 version of the gear you craft.
+1-100% is the 1-100% chance it's t2
+101-200% is it 1-100% chance it's t3
t3 crafts sockets into it.........
......... so yes, blue assets not available to FtP = PtW. (at least on the non-person assets, since the people are only a time bonus they would not be a PtW asset)
I would swear I seen the assignment for that, but the last few days I have not seen it.... maybe it was a rare assignment that only shows up every now and then.
It'd be nice if that was the case but it's not.
Common assets can only be upgraded into common assets. Uncommon Assets can be upgraded into rare and epic assets.
This is an intentional limitation but it's honestly a bit much to request 3 dollars for a *chance* to get those assets. They should be more accessible in some way IMO.
They were, but that was fixed.
I agree that the 300 Zen booster pack should always contained 1 guaranteed green people asset, with a small chance for a blue one, The 1600 Zen pack should contain 1 (or 2?) guaranteed blue people assets with a chance for a purple one. This would at least make me more likely to spend money on those, at least on the 300 Zen ones. I would find the 16000 Zen packs too expensive unless you are guaranteed a purple asset every time. 1600 Zen yielded about 600k AD on Friday and that is the price of purple assets in the AH.
Does it sell things that give you advantages you can't earn in game ?
Yes it does.
It's pay 2 win end of story.
Personally the pay 2 win thing bothers me very little about this game. The troublesome thing is the number of people that need to fool themselves about it.
ya, I was thinking that I simply missread it when it was still grey from not lvled up enough to do assignment
I belive it was actualy the 4xguard > 1xfootman that I seen but thought it was 1x man at arms (because that was the only assignment I seen footmen for, and simply figured the obvios... guard = t2, and man at arms = t3 (with blue/purple simply "advanced t3"