jfsMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
It will be rather hard to justify updates if a lot of people stop giving them any money. A good cash shop game can expect to get roughly subscription level rates from me. With this last fiasco NW has lost my confidence and my $$.
Who benfited the most from all of this idiocy? Perfect World. AD is gone and worthless. The Zen store is still active, so go buy some Zen with your hard-earned cash from the Perfect World website and pay $30 (3,000 Zen) for a bag.
They freely admit their rollback only catches when the exploit went viral. Perfect World is totally complicit. They wrote the code, people! It is their creation! They created the exploit!
Am I the only one that see's the "16 days ago" shopped in?
am I the only one who's familiar enough with photoshop to point out you'd better point out exactly how it was shopped in instead of just running straight to conspiracy theories when we know this exact bug happened on STO months ago and therefore likely has been lurking in the engine all along?
Lets just get one thing straight, the bug was fixed in Star Trek online and that fix carried over to neverwinter(in-game client). The devs didn't have the foresight to test their new gateway properly so bidding into the negative resurfaced.
It doesn't matter how it resurfaced. That fact that it did resurface in any way, shape, or form, makes this company look like morons.
Actually, back when I played the game Perfect World, PWE had very reasonable pricing, very few bugs that caused any economic or gaming issues. So, when I saw this game, I actually recommended it to friends because they were a good company awhile back. Now, I wont refer anyone to this company's games.
Am I the only one that sees a Cryptic/PWE dev behind your account?
also, Im sure all the reddit boasts about exploiting weeks ago, or people exploiting the very same bug on STO weeks ago also were shopped.
OMG, Cryptic/PWE SHOPPED REALITY ITSELF!
No, you are not alone. Cant believe someone can be such ignorant except PWE. Obviously that this ignorant kids are the target group for PWE. They will play and pay no matter what **** happens.
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kefkahMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited May 2013
As much as I am upset about the fact that they knew about this exploit for quite some time, burleyxiii is right. That date is in fact photoshopped. Here is an enlarged cut of the image. http://imgur.com/L1lLra8
As much as I am upset about the fact that they knew about this exploit for quite some time, burleyxiii is right. That date is in fact photoshopped. Here is an enlarged cut of the image. http://imgur.com/L1lLra8
I was just about to put that up, you beat me to it.
And I never disagreed with them knowing of the exploit, but if you're going to post "proof"... at least have it be real.
Everyone's so eager to join the mob with their pitchfork's and torches that they are blind to the obvious.
EAT IT SAGA.
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calaminthaMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Actually, back when I played the game Perfect World, PWE had very reasonable pricing, very few bugs that caused any economic or gaming issues. So, when I saw this game, I actually recommended it to friends because they were a good company awhile back. Now, I wont refer anyone to this company's games.
Eh. I remember a game with 40-60€ mounts, fashion items that were RANDOMLY coloured when you bought them, expensive health/mana charms, etc. US version was much cheaper then?
i had to reply to this and repeat what everyone is saying.
them knowing about the bug and ignoring it ticks me off more than anything. this was known in CLOSED BETA and it was reported on numerous times. they shouldn't have went into open beta with this bug in place. they don't care about this game, they care about the money you give them. there was a gem in this game but the staff is not so great. i suggest to all of you who haven't spent money on this game, don't. i can't say to you to not play it because it is still a fun game. but how long will the fun last?
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kyrosirisMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
You should make sure your screenshots use a lossless compression format before you copy and paste things between them. Clearly a rectangle of copy/paste around that 16 days ago. What do you have to gain by lying about something like this? I mean do you have nothing better to do than try and destroy a community? You are just a parasite on the gaming industry.
SO wait, I could have been doing this all along and then passing all this currency to alt accounts multiple times a day? WTF
A person on reddit was bragging about how he made $7000 from selling AD as a goldseller. It's probably what most goldsellers advertising in game were doing.
The stupidity of this game is the money system.
You need Zen for this
You need Astral Diamonds for this
You need copper and silver for this.
For example
If I don't get AD when I sell my items to a game vendor, WTF do I need AD to buy an identify scroll for that equipment.
That's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>
What a freaking joke, I expected more from Perfect World.
Don't see why. PWE has only banned exploiters once (from what I saw anyway), and NEVER removed unfair, ill-gotten advantages in any of their games and I could give many examples.. They like to sweep things under the rug; they still never admitted how easily you could exploit the FW halloween page by merely typing a short line of java in the address bar to spawn any item. They called them "hackers" when in reality the exploit was as simple as this gateway bug. PWE will never learn to not trust user input, at this rate..
All this company cares about is money.. they don't care what's good for their games or customer satisfaction. Just look at FW's economy: it's the single most pay to win game company ever, all gold is from cash shop, items ingame are worth nothing, you either resell or you cash shop...or quit cause you will never get anywhere after years of playing. Even Nexon doesn't bleed its users this badly.
Cryptic: Shame on you. If you can break your contract with PWE or otherwise get out of it, do so. Take this game down, do what needs to be done to fix balance and dumb bugs, and put it up with a better publisher than PWE. I have the feeling they pressured you into releasing a half done game because all their other games are the same: swiftly made money grabs that never get fixed.
Actually, back when I played the game Perfect World, PWE had very reasonable pricing, very few bugs that caused any economic or gaming issues. So, when I saw this game, I actually recommended it to friends because they were a good company awhile back. Now, I wont refer anyone to this company's games.
You're thinking of PW-MY. They had reasonable pricing.
PWI costed a small fortune to do much of anything. 5 times higher than PW-MY, and at least 2x higher prices than they should have been for the USA market.
You should make sure your screenshots use a lossless compression format before you copy and paste things between them. Clearly a rectangle of copy/paste around that 16 days ago. What do you have to gain by lying about something like this? I mean do you have nothing better to do than try and destroy a community? You are just a parasite on the gaming industry.
next time read the whole thread before asking me stupid ****. i already posted the pic source ( http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?267251-Neverwinter-will-be-the-2013/page8 ). if you scroll abit you can see that czeslawczad posted that ****.
since they already had that bug in another game i dont realy care enough to fake screenshots. they knew about that bug - period.
I'm not saying the exploit wasn't going on from the beginning, and I am definitely not with PW (in fact have now sworn against giving them money) but the truth, whether anyone wants to see it or not -
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They freely admit their rollback only catches when the exploit went viral. Perfect World is totally complicit. They wrote the code, people! It is their creation! They created the exploit!
Am I the only one that sees a Cryptic/PWE dev behind your account?
also, Im sure all the reddit boasts about exploiting weeks ago, or people exploiting the very same bug on STO weeks ago also were shopped.
OMG, Cryptic/PWE SHOPPED REALITY ITSELF!
am I the only one who's familiar enough with photoshop to point out you'd better point out exactly how it was shopped in instead of just running straight to conspiracy theories when we know this exact bug happened on STO months ago and therefore likely has been lurking in the engine all along?
It doesn't matter how it resurfaced. That fact that it did resurface in any way, shape, or form, makes this company look like morons.
Are you dumb or blind??
Upgrade your crappy CRT monitor so you can see what I see. An obvious color difference surrounding the "16 days ago".
Actually, back when I played the game Perfect World, PWE had very reasonable pricing, very few bugs that caused any economic or gaming issues. So, when I saw this game, I actually recommended it to friends because they were a good company awhile back. Now, I wont refer anyone to this company's games.
No, you are not alone. Cant believe someone can be such ignorant except PWE. Obviously that this ignorant kids are the target group for PWE. They will play and pay no matter what **** happens.
I was just about to put that up, you beat me to it.
And I never disagreed with them knowing of the exploit, but if you're going to post "proof"... at least have it be real.
Everyone's so eager to join the mob with their pitchfork's and torches that they are blind to the obvious.
EAT IT SAGA.
Eh. I remember a game with 40-60€ mounts, fashion items that were RANDOMLY coloured when you bought them, expensive health/mana charms, etc. US version was much cheaper then?
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them knowing about the bug and ignoring it ticks me off more than anything. this was known in CLOSED BETA and it was reported on numerous times. they shouldn't have went into open beta with this bug in place. they don't care about this game, they care about the money you give them. there was a gem in this game but the staff is not so great. i suggest to all of you who haven't spent money on this game, don't. i can't say to you to not play it because it is still a fun game. but how long will the fun last?
Giant mounds of cocaine due to all the ~*~HERO OF THE NORTH~*~ money.
Pretty good scam, to be quite honest.
You should make sure your screenshots use a lossless compression format before you copy and paste things between them. Clearly a rectangle of copy/paste around that 16 days ago. What do you have to gain by lying about something like this? I mean do you have nothing better to do than try and destroy a community? You are just a parasite on the gaming industry.
A person on reddit was bragging about how he made $7000 from selling AD as a goldseller. It's probably what most goldsellers advertising in game were doing.
You need Zen for this
You need Astral Diamonds for this
You need copper and silver for this.
For example
If I don't get AD when I sell my items to a game vendor, WTF do I need AD to buy an identify scroll for that equipment.
That's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>
Leaving dead question marks everywhere
Don't see why. PWE has only banned exploiters once (from what I saw anyway), and NEVER removed unfair, ill-gotten advantages in any of their games and I could give many examples.. They like to sweep things under the rug; they still never admitted how easily you could exploit the FW halloween page by merely typing a short line of java in the address bar to spawn any item. They called them "hackers" when in reality the exploit was as simple as this gateway bug. PWE will never learn to not trust user input, at this rate..
All this company cares about is money.. they don't care what's good for their games or customer satisfaction. Just look at FW's economy: it's the single most pay to win game company ever, all gold is from cash shop, items ingame are worth nothing, you either resell or you cash shop...or quit cause you will never get anywhere after years of playing. Even Nexon doesn't bleed its users this badly.
Cryptic: Shame on you. If you can break your contract with PWE or otherwise get out of it, do so. Take this game down, do what needs to be done to fix balance and dumb bugs, and put it up with a better publisher than PWE. I have the feeling they pressured you into releasing a half done game because all their other games are the same: swiftly made money grabs that never get fixed.
You should say that to yourself. The system is designed to bleed users of money, though it's not nearly as bad as the setup in FW.
You're thinking of PW-MY. They had reasonable pricing.
PWI costed a small fortune to do much of anything. 5 times higher than PW-MY, and at least 2x higher prices than they should have been for the USA market.
next time read the whole thread before asking me stupid ****. i already posted the pic source ( http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?267251-Neverwinter-will-be-the-2013/page8 ). if you scroll abit you can see that czeslawczad posted that ****.
since they already had that bug in another game i dont realy care enough to fake screenshots. they knew about that bug - period.
This.
Much like Bioware and EA, they have to do what PWE tells them.
The image in the 2nd post IS photoshopped
Amillion Dollars L60 'easy mode' GWF
Wildstar looks like you have to be 14 years old to enjoy. Id be embarassed to play that.
TESO though... that looks epic.
I know, right? It's like that Minecraft game. Only kids play with Legos.
OK let me clarify for the fanboys, if a game looks like this http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/media/screenshots/ it is really embarassing IMO to play. It targets the 14 year old crowd and is goofy.
Minecraft is just a game about building and gathering without cutsie graphics.