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chinoduro169
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Generally speaking, if you look back at all those exploits people used to gain an incredible amount of AD selling Tier 2 items without doing anything. People using the item exploits where you gain an unlimited amount of power and use that to run 5 minute Castle Never dungeons. The Foundry exp exploit where you can easily reach to level 60 in just a few hours. Its not fair for the people who spent days to level 60 while some people just uses 2-3 hours of their time exploiting the foundry quests.
Its either they wipe all servers, giving back the people the Zen/AD they purchased and everyone start over again with all bugs/exploits fixed or many of us will chargeback and quit this game.
Share your thoughts as im sure many of you wont agree with me.
Its either they wipe all servers, giving back the people the Zen/AD they purchased and everyone start over again with all bugs/exploits fixed or many of us will chargeback and quit this game.
Share your thoughts as im sure many of you wont agree with me.
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They havn't fixed anything by doing a roll back of a few hours. Inless they delete every AD/ZEN/CAT that was used in this process (and they won't) in all of these hackes they have killed the game and the ecomony.
SERVER WIPE is the way to go... but they have their head so far in the sand its not even funny.
Thats ok cus the gaming sites have gotten a hold of this and they are the laughing joke again today. Much like how their other game a few yrs back had this issue and they are victim to it again. THEY DONT LEARN.
Exactly, but he doesnt say i quit, he just dont want to play in a corrupted environment
"The greatest good for the greatest number" sounds cliched, but you have to draw a line somewhere. Punishing an entire population for the actions of a few to an extreme doesn't generally go down well.
I've spent a little money on the game. I'm still enjoying playing it. I'm not considering making a fraudulent chargeback anytime soon.
do you guys even know, what damage the game has already taken due to those exploiters.
there are now millions. no billions on AD in the game. that cripples the whole economy...
the damage is already done, all they can do now is damage control. but i fear even for damage control its to late.
a 7hour rollback is a joke that didn't really help a bit. im im correct those exploits are known since pre-open beta..
The game is still in beta. take this and wipe the servers before launch, refund zen etc. but its likely the only way out.
you've failed hard but you have a chance to fix the exploits and start a new game with launch. thats what a "beta" is for.. to find bugs and exploits that can ruin the whole game.
if you wont do this, well see by yourself what currently is happening out there.
you wont be able to buy anything except you have over 1million AD. or you trade with cats lol
if you cant afford cats or ad or zen. you're simply ****ed. a poor ******* in the middle of other poor players and the rich exploiters.
if you cant afford cats from the cat-mafia, then what? your character will starve due to no money for potions and other stuff.
"save a cat - wipe the game"
An overall server wipe to fix a problem that is being abused by a few is not a good answer. They have the games database and associated logs. There is no reason why they couldn't create a utility on their side to parse the logs and database to get a list of the users who used and abused the exploit. Shut the servers down for a few hours, find the offenders and deal with them (ban them, remove ill-gotten gains, etc.). I don't see why the rest of us who have been playing the game the way it was intended should be punished because a few abused the system -it might take a few hours or even a day to sort the entire issue out between finding all of the transactions, confirming the good vs bad (as an application can pop a false positive) and finally taking action.
The idea of a server wipe can be equated to nuking a city because there are some criminals in the city - you don't do that, you deal with the criminals and leave the innocent people alone. Just because a server wipe would be an "easy" solution, that doesn't make it the right solution. Plus what happens down the line, 2 or 3 months from now (or 6 months or a year) if another exploit comes up, are you going to demand a server wipe again? That's the quickest way to alienate your population is to destroy everything they have worked for. Deal with the trouble makers, not the population as a whole.
And I don't know why there are (seemingly) so many people for a full wipe. Sure, the forum commandoes here might stick around, but a large number of "average players" (who, based on a check of zone chat, have no idea why a rollback happened and are bent out of shape about just losing that much) would bail. And the game can't survive on a couple hundred "nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure" types.
U quitter ? lol quitter is coward and pansy haha.
I get it. You're angry, and you've decided that a full wipe will somehow fix the things you're angry about. Except you have no idea what you're actually angry about, so no one cares.
I hope that cat mafia is complying with Kennel guidelines.
Thread title begs to differ.
I believe that a server wipe would benefit the community in general. Everyone starts anew fairly. If not, then many people including me loses the will to keep playing this game. The most annoying part for me was: People spent $200/$60 packs for the head start. They took days and days to level up to 60. When the open beta started for all the free users, people began exploiting The Foundry quests. It literally took them no time to level to 60. Then what was the point for the people who spent money on those packs to be "ahead" of everyone else while you could just start at open beta having a free account and exploit the foundry quests?
PS: Sorry for my bad english since im asian
Are you ok with waiting to play for 5 days after a wipe? I paid for a 5 day head start on you.
Founders get 200% exp increase for 5days,
Bet you that more people would "lose the will to keep playing" if everything they've done so far was nuked, than will because of no wipe.
I can see your point view but if i am honest do you know how many times the duped AD has changed hands either by exploiters or to player who have not committed the exploit bit are caught up on this ?
Some of the exploiter have already stated on other forums that they have sold the money to gold sellers for real life money. So this AD and zen is and will be in game and will stay in game to be used as they see fit as it has changed hands so many time now it will be almost unworkable to trace or cost PWI too much money to trace.
Hence why a server wipe at this ealry stage of the game would be the best way to resolve the issue. Yes this will also cause PWI real money but it would also bring back the integrity of both this game and company.
Maybe you are a little bit lost or you are just not realizing what has happened so far/ You say "only a few" has exploited. You are completely wrong.. The majority of the players have used the exploits.
Server wipe is the only good option out there since this game is still a beta.. Its still very new. Wipe it, refund Zen to the players and everyone starts fresh. Just take a look at the people who has exploited the Power bug. They run Castle Never in minutes.. Collects SO MANY of those TIER 2 weapons and CONTROLS the price in the AUCTION HOUSE.. you call that fair? this is just ONE of the many exploits that MANY people used already
The only way opening a new server would be a good idea is 1 if they cancel the idea of a server merge (doh), and 2 they would have to give heros of the north first access and guardians access a few days later, then the rest of the population after that for the head start they paid for.
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I have already lost 4 days worth of coins from praying, which in and of itself isn't a big deal. But I have also lost a legitimately acquired blue crafting asset for my Leadership that I got from a box. Spent money to buy keys, only to have it taken away in the roll back. A wipe takes my other blue and a green asset, also from boxes, and frankly, would be my last straw. If they intended to wipe the servers, they should have stated such. As it is, this is the better way to go, since I didn't lose everything I've worked for, just a couple of character levels, and some crafting levels and resources.
No that's not the same. I want 5 days on the server without the riff raff. If there would be a wipe, non founders cant play for 5 days after.